Malibu

[Fisherman4454]

WSB are till showing up here. I didn't go out today but a buddy who owns a boat came up with 2 40 lb class fish. Does anyone on here fish malibu? seems like the guys up here either don't care for the internet or are wayyyyyy more territorial. whats up with that?

[vincentek9]

thanks for the heads up. never fished malibu yet. and maybe they are keeping a tight lip on the bite.

[B man]

I'm new to yak fishing so learning the ropes. Went out to Zuma beach today 8:30 - 11am and caught a small rock fish and a small lizard fish on frozen squid. Took in alot of water launch so was running heavy with no bilge pump = paddling was slow and I didn't go to far out. Think i'll stick to Ventura/Oxnard harbors

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by Fisherman4454

WSB are till showing up here. I didn't go out today but a buddy who owns a boat came up with 2 40 lb class fish. Does anyone on here fish malibu? seems like the guys up here either don't care for the internet or are wayyyyyy more territorial. whats up with that?

Damn!!! I'd give you some basic info about Malibu, like where to launch, what water temps are important or even parking hours on PCH, but then someone would have to kill me.

Jim

[bus kid]

Originally Posted by Fiskadoro

Damn!!! I'd give you some basic info about Malibu, like where to launch, what water temps are important or even parking hours on PCH, but then someone would have to kill me.

Jim

PM sent, not for fishing info, I need a recipe for sugar cookies.

[radastaff]

Originally Posted by B man

I'm new to yak fishing so learning the ropes. Went out to Zuma beach today 8:30 - 11am and caught a small rock fish and a small lizard fish on frozen squid. Took in alot of water launch so was running heavy with no bilge pump = paddling was slow and I didn't go to far out. Think i'll stick to Ventura/Oxnard harbors

if u hit Zuma proper
u broke the new law
its out of bounds for fishing

unless u were 3 mi or farther out

if u hit broad beach north
and were werkin palegics
u be ok

there are 2 new zones
the northern zone's rules are worded awkwardly

get a hand pump
it is an important
accessary




wsb can be had
up and down the coast
wherever there is kelp
and squid

[Fisherman4454]

[QUOTE=radastaff;128123]if u hit Zuma proper
u broke the new law
its out of bounds for fishing

unless u were 3 mi or farther out

if u hit broad beach north
and were werkin palegics
u be ok

there are 2 new zones
the northern zone's rules are worded awkwardly



Yeah be careful dude, that's a hefty fine if u get caught, and ignorance of the law isn't an excuse

http://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.as...95&inline=true

Wording is a little weird, yeah, but for us non spearos zuma is off limits for all fish, dume is off limits for everyone

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by bus kid

PM sent, not for fishing info, I need a recipe for sugar cookies.

No sugar cookies in Malibu, but I do know a thing or two about biscuits

[B man]

Ooops!!! Thanks for the info. and the map for off limit areas. I asked a lifeguard a few weeks back and they didnt mention it. Glad I didnt get caught. I think I'll stick to Ventura Harbor and outlet for a bit. Might head out Saturday morning a little yak time.

[Fisherman4454]

Originally Posted by B man

Ooops!!! Thanks for the info. and the map for off limit areas. I asked a lifeguard a few weeks back and they didnt mention it. Glad I didnt get caught. I think I'll stick to Ventura Harbor and outlet for a bit. Might head out Saturday morning a little yak time.

Try leo Carrillo and county line. Both pretty mellow launches and good fishing. The cuda have been in pretty thick, sand bass and calicos are always around too

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by Fisherman4454

Try leo Carrillo and county line. Both pretty mellow launches and good fishing. The cuda have been in pretty thick, sand bass and calicos are always around too

Actually County Line is probably the most dangerous launch spot commonly fished in Malibu. Used to be a group of "locals" would tell every Newbie they met that the fish were biting at County Line. They'd then go and take pictures of them when they wiped out in the surf and got hurt or lost their gear.

In general Leo and County line get bigger surf and are better for more advanced kayakers, while the easier launches are on the lee side of the point east of point Dume, Esco, Corral Canyon, and Malibu Pier.

I use magic seaweed to check surf conditions.
http://magicseaweed.com/County-Line-...rf-Report/277/

http://magicseaweed.com/Malibu-First...rf-Report/279/

Right now County Line is good do to the South swell but next week it's probably going to get a little brutal. Generally any time it lists surf over three feet it's not worth going unless you know what your doing, and I'd say that for all the launches, with the exception is Malibu pier which is almost always do-able.

County Line and Leo can be epic for Seabass and can always produce quality Rockfish, and some big butts. Esco is still good but keep in mind BKR the reef west of Paradise Cove is now in a reserve. Corral is good for Halibut and can be Epic for Tsharks, Malibu Pier is probably the most underrated Halibut fishing in So Cal. I've seen more Halibut over forty pounds taken between the Pier and the Pepperdine spike than anywhere else in California.

Watch out for the "locals only" crowd. 90% of the people that you meet there will be amazingly cool, but there are a few really whacked individuals that fish there. In general if you post reports about fishing Malibu it's best to leave out the location, otherwise you'll be hunted down by the "We own Malibu's Ocean" nutcase crowd.


Ooooopsss..... Now I've gone and said too much. Surely someones going to have to vandalize my car for posting all that secret info.

Jim

[mtnbykr2]

glad to hear you didn't get caught at the Zu, let me know about next Saturday
I may tag along...we will see

[radastaff]

[QUOTE=Fisherman4454;128125]

Originally Posted by radastaff

if u hit Zuma proper
u broke the new law
its out of bounds for fishing

unless u were 3 mi or farther out

if u hit broad beach north
and were werkin palegics
u be ok

there are 2 new zones
the northern zone's rules are worded awkwardly



Yeah be careful dude, that's a hefty fine if u get caught, and ignorance of the law isn't an excuse

http://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.as...95&inline=true

Wording is a little weird, yeah, but for us non spearos zuma is off limits for all fish, dume is off limits for everyone

the northern zone
is fishable if your fishing for palegics
wether your a spero or not

according to the dfg
and a guy who asked them specifically that posts at scsurffishing
a few months back


Leo can be mellow at times
but is rocky by the stairs

[mtnbykr2]

Leo is doablejust check the tide and swell for the day first, I am still iffy on that launch myself, just stow "everything" if in doubt, you will do fine...
I put back a 43 inch ling in there on plastic last year, or the year before...
lots of good fishing in there

[monkeyfishturds]

Originally Posted by radastaff

the northern zone
is fishable if your fishing for palegics
wether your a spero or not

according to the dfg
and a guy who asked them specifically that posts at scsurffishing
a few months back


Leo can be mellow at times
but is rocky by the stairs

Point Dume State Marine Conservation Area


Map: JPG | PDF
Boundary: This area is bounded by the mean high tide line and straight lines connecting the following points in the order listed:
34° 02.28' N. lat. 118° 53.00' W. long.;
33° 59.14' N. lat. 118° 53.00' W. long.; thence southeastward along the three nautical mile offshore boundary to
33° 56.96' N. lat. 118° 49.20' W. long.; and
34° 00.76' N. lat. 118° 49.20' W. long.


Permitted/Prohibited Uses: Take of all living marine resources is prohibited except:

1. The recreational take of pelagic finfish, including Pacific bonito, and white seabass by spearfishing is allowed.

If you read closely radastaff, white sea bass are not on the pelagic finfish list. Only spearfishermen are allowed to take them in this area, not recreational fishermen.
But since this is a San Diego based site, with more yellowtail and white sea bass than anywhere in So.Cal.. Why would they bother driving 3 hours to Malibu?
With white sea bass being caught from Punta Baja to Monterey,Ca. Seems pointless to go chasing ones tail?

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by monkeyfishturds

..... Why would they bother.... Seems pointless....

Not worth the drive!!! Pointless!!!! No fish in Malibu!!!!




Disclaimer: I'd like to point out for personal safety reasons that the above post in no way suggests that there is, has been, or ever will be a bite in Malibu, and all those who do fish Malibu, or mention it on the internet in any manner do so at their own risk.

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by Fiskadoro

Not worth the drive!!! Pointless!!!! No fish in Malibu!!!!




Disclaimer: I'd like to point out for personal safety reasons that the above post in no way suggests that there is, has been, or ever will be a bite in Malibu, and all those who do fish Malibu, or mention it on the internet in any manner do so at their own risk.

wooooord

[monkeyfishturds]

Originally Posted by radastaff

if u hit Zuma proper
u broke the new law
its out of bounds for fishing

unless u were 3 mi or farther out

if u hit broad beach north
and were werkin palegics
u be ok

wsb can be had
up and down the coast
wherever there is kelp
and squid

Zuma and Broad Beach are the same, pelagics only, no white sea bass for fishermen. The closure ends at Encinal Canyon. This MLPA closure will be fully realized in the near future. Squid don't always spawn in the same place every year. Many years, they spawn at Trancas Point/Broad Beach. Next time and everytime they do in the future, we will not be able to fish for white sea bass there.

Jim. when you used to go on the L.A. sites, you would tell them to fish La Jolla. Now your on the La Jolla site telling them to fish Malibu. Why haven't you told them to fish your area, Redondo/Manhatten Beach? There has been and still is a white sea bass bite in your neck of the woods.

['Cuda]

Royal Palms State Beach Park north of San Pedro used to produce some good WSB before the record red tides of '05....especially juveniles throwing a Kroc in the kelp beds....I had my best Calico day there...11 fish in the 4-6 lb range in an hour or so. Used to catch halibut every other outing at places like off Sunset Point and County Line...you can still get big threshers if you paddle far enough out and remember the world record spear caught WSB...97 lbs...was straight out from Neptune's Net.
But me.....I go down to Baja.

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by monkeyfishturds

Jim. when you used to go on the L.A. sites, you would tell them to fish La Jolla. Now your on the La Jolla site telling them to fish Malibu.

I'm not sure why you think this threads about me, perhaps it's because you think it's about you. I do enjoy sharing actual fishing info, but in this case I was just making some generalized jokes about how uptight some Malibu fisherman can be when it comes to the web, and how they think they own the place. Maybe you shouldn't take it so personally.

Originally Posted by monkeyfishturds

Why haven't you told them to fish your area, Redondo/Manhatten Beach?

Redondo is not mine. I used to live aboard at King Harbor and fished it almost daily 20 years ago so I know Redondo, and know how to fish it. That said I hardly fish it anymore. It's kind of like a ex-wife: I know it like the back of my hand but don't get the urge to go there that often.

Originally Posted by monkeyfishturds

There has been and still is a white sea bass bite in your neck of the woods.

News to me. No doubt the Redondo guys will be happy to hear that. Maybe you can take out a banner ad.

I guess that's one way to keep people out of Malibu.

Jim