Blue Gill - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Nic D · 08-20-2011, 04:34 PM

nevermind

Dan · 08-20-2011, 06:22 PM

nice yt kelvin!

Handymansd · 08-20-2011, 07:46 PM

Popcorn in August?...

Congrats on the summer breezer and thanks for the report!

Whizz Bang · 08-20-2011, 10:30 PM

Aaron:

Your Reply, with mine of course:

You: Time's change

Me: Exactly, learn the PM.

You: I'm not sure you know who I had "issues" with, it certainly wasn't Skiffman, regardless of how many timely reports he's posted.

Me: Yep, got that one too, you were directing your comment at DeepDvr.
Who, AGAIN, is the nicest guy I know on the water.

You: I don't recall mentioning anything about PBers running over lines, but who wants that anyway?

Me: You do, with your "timely report". The problem is that your beloved "timely report" causes just that. You post it on this site, PBers read it, PM (because they know how to), and then it is a zoo.

You: I stated, not all fish-finder peddling kayak fishermen are that way. Some are still genuine and report what they catch right away, not a month later to show how well they scored for their own ego's sake. Year's back this website (and others), fishermen posted what was happening in our jewel, not a month later.

Me: Got it. You want PBers running over your lines. Get off the couch, or out of the cubicle and fish.

You: It just seems to me (maybe I'm alone), that the new generation would like nothing more to than have Josh show them how, go out, catch fish, and keep it among themselves, thereby giving them more opportuntity to repeat it in the next few days, before anyone really finds out about the "bite". Kudos to you.

Me: You misspelled opportunity. Also, if you want to know what is going on, PM someone, hell PM me. I will tell you what I know and do my damndest to get you on a fish. Again, I hate the timely report because it goes out into the ether where PBers read it, then they run over your lines and the school of yellows you have been tailing for 20 minutes.
And leave Josh out of it, he is a hell of a fisherman, no matter what I say about him.

You: I liked this website a lot better when Iceman, Katchfish, Arne, Madscientist, Pat, etc., would let you know what was going on, than the current trend.

Me: Times change. Do a search on all the "old school" guys you love and see how many timely reports they have posted recently. There seems to be a progression on this site. First, you post everything. Then, you only post the special, then you progress to not posting much of anything unless it is old enough to have allowed for a change in the pattern. You start as a lurker, you end as a lurker.

You: So, you've got lots of friends that will let you in on the "secret". Good for you. I paddle, even though I'm probably twice your age, without fish-finder (for now), and be happy when I catch fish. I'll still enjoy our ocean.

Me: I am 33, although I feel 43 ( I blame the job). Again, they are great guys, but they are unwilling to wait around for Neptune to cough up a fish retarded enough to bite. They use finders, they study patterns, they fish for themselves and do NOT wait for someone else to do the pattern analysis for them. They swap technique with abandon, try the new, test the old, and do everything in their power to learn from every trip. No "Secret", time on the water......that is it, time on the water. More of that and less waiting around for the timely report and you would not care what someone posts, unless it is something that is gonna have repercussions (i.e. PBers running over your lines from a timely report).

You: And I won't feel any remorse in not informing other kayak fishermen when I can help.

Me: You should have left off the not, as it stands, this statement has a double negative going on. Anyways, I know what you meant to say, and I agree. I just do it with the PM, the fish report I will save for the new guys, and the special.

You: Aaron not so LMFAO

Me: Still LMFAO, but seriously, PM me if you are headed out, I will give you everything I know.

johnnybingbong · 08-20-2011, 11:04 PM

Sorry Dude, time has changed

. Leave ERIC alone he's a really nice guy. And leave it for the kayakers and Plus this is a kayak site (SKIFFMAN).......

dorado50 · 08-20-2011, 11:20 PM

ok ok I'lltalk. dorado being caught off nw corner! And I told a school of yt to stay put until tomorrow morning......

radastaff · 08-21-2011, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorado50

ok ok I'lltalk. dorado being caught off nw corner! And I told a school of yt to stay put until tomorrow morning......

ya i saw that BD post too

the dude · 08-21-2011, 02:25 PM

it's the typical transition of this site...

1. dude buys kayak
2. dude lurks this site
3. dude sets up account and posts relevant reports
4. dude starts catching some quality fish
5. dude decides la jolla is 'his/her' fishing hole and jumps down everyone's throat whenever a timely report is posted...

I always post relevant stuff and always will because I remember what it was like to be at #1. Tight lines.

steveooo · 08-21-2011, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the dude

it's the typical transition of this site...

1. dude buys kayak
2. dude lurks this site
3. dude sets up account and posts relevant reports
4. dude starts catching some quality fish
5. dude decides la jolla is 'his/her' fishing hole and jumps down everyone's throat whenever a timely report is posted...

I always post relevant stuff and always will because I remember what it was like to be at #1. Tight lines.

Nah, That's the old model.

Here is the New School

1) Dude Lurks
2) Dude posts a million meaningless posts to bump the post count
3) Dude buys yak
4) Dude makes bunch of meaningless posts (bump the post count)
5) Dude gets the yak wet, in the bay of course!
6) Dude bumps the post count again. Like a mad man this time...
7) Dude finally gets the balls and takes the yak out to the big water. Realizes its not a easy as it looks.
8) Dude hires Josh & catches a big fish.
9) Dude posts up a DH advertisement disguised as a report.
10) Dude chooses 1 of 2 paths
10a) Dude puts in time OTW, has some success on his own, becomes a decent stick.
10b) Dude thinks that he is God's gift to yakking because he has a fishing code group, or even better, Josh on his speed dial.
11) Dude makes sure that no relevant info is ever posted, especially not in the "Kayak Fishing Reports" section.
12) Dude gets beaten by a girl in WCW

dorado50 · 08-20-2011, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnybingbong

Sorry Dude, time has changed

. Leave ERIC alone he's a really nice guy. And leave it for the kayakers and Plus this is a kayak site (SKIFFMAN).......

what is this world coming to.........

Aaron&Julie · 08-20-2011, 11:39 PM

Thanks Whizz Bang, did I spell that correctly?

I don't know what I'd do with myself with all my grammatical errors.

I must sound like an idiot with such.

I appreciate your offer of PMs. Hell, with my luck lately, I'd appreciate anybodies (did I spell that correctly?) offer.

You are so right, with everything you said. I'm a minority, here. I'll be sure not to post for a month whenever I catch fish.

Whizz Bang · 08-20-2011, 11:50 PM

Aaron,

We are all good, however, I would not forget the all important ' as in.....
anybody's offer OR anybodies' offer.

Tight lines.

bigbarrels · 08-20-2011, 11:59 PM

sooo freakin lame

Aaron&Julie · 08-20-2011, 11:55 PM

I'm not dissing Josh, he's a great fisherman, no denying.

I wonder why all of the "old schoolers" left, is all?

I'd rather go skunked, than be on "it", with the new generation.

Don't bother replying Whizz Bang, with all of your hot spots. We'll just love La Jolla without you, or fish finders or peddling devices. Sure, we might catch less fish, so what?

Whizz Bang · 08-21-2011, 12:10 AM

Got it, but I will reply anyway. I have nothing against you. My offer stands, I love to see Yakkers get on fish. You and I just have a fundamentally different view on how to disseminate that information.

The "new" generation aren't bad people, even if some of them choose not to post.

As for the question of where the "old schoolers" went? My best guess is that they are still checking this site, it is just that most of them choose to no longer post the timely report.....or report at all. Their reasons are their own.

DanaPT · 08-21-2011, 09:45 AM

In the camp of sharing what you want to share. Others who keep it to themselves, no one is "hating" on you. If you don't want to share, don't share.

08-20-2011, 07:46 PM	#3
Handymansd Ancient Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: On The Water Posts: 935	Popcorn in August?... Congrats on the summer breezer and thanks for the report! __________________ All men are equal before fish. -Herbert Hoover

08-20-2011, 11:04 PM	#5
johnnybingbong Junior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 16	To SKIFFMAN!!!! Sorry Dude, time has changed. Leave ERIC alone he's a really nice guy. And leave it for the kayakers and Plus this is a kayak site (SKIFFMAN).......

08-21-2011, 02:25 PM	#8
the dude Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valley Center Posts: 271	it's the typical transition of this site... 1. dude buys kayak 2. dude lurks this site 3. dude sets up account and posts relevant reports 4. dude starts catching some quality fish 5. dude decides la jolla is 'his/her' fishing hole and jumps down everyone's throat whenever a timely report is posted... I always post relevant stuff and always will because I remember what it was like to be at #1. Tight lines. __________________ The dude abides.

08-20-2011, 11:39 PM	#11
Aaron&Julie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring Valley Posts: 1,400	Thanks Whizz Bang, did I spell that correctly? I don't know what I'd do with myself with all my grammatical errors. I must sound like an idiot with such. I appreciate your offer of PMs. Hell, with my luck lately, I'd appreciate anybodies (did I spell that correctly?) offer. You are so right, with everything you said. I'm a minority, here. I'll be sure not to post for a month whenever I catch fish. __________________ "Never say die"

08-20-2011, 11:59 PM	#13
bigbarrels Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vista Posts: 1,111	sooo freakin lame __________________ The shorter you are, the bigger your fish appear

08-20-2011, 04:34 PM	#1
Nic D Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Clairemont Posts: 813	nevermind __________________ instagram - @DRAGO619

08-20-2011, 06:22 PM	#2
Dan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,053	nice yt kelvin!

08-20-2011, 10:30 PM	#4
Whizz Bang Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 396	Aaron: Your Reply, with mine of course: You: Time's change Me: Exactly, learn the PM. You: I'm not sure you know who I had "issues" with, it certainly wasn't Skiffman, regardless of how many timely reports he's posted. Me: Yep, got that one too, you were directing your comment at DeepDvr. Who, AGAIN, is the nicest guy I know on the water. You: I don't recall mentioning anything about PBers running over lines, but who wants that anyway? Me: You do, with your "timely report". The problem is that your beloved "timely report" causes just that. You post it on this site, PBers read it, PM (because they know how to), and then it is a zoo. You: I stated, not all fish-finder peddling kayak fishermen are that way. Some are still genuine and report what they catch right away, not a month later to show how well they scored for their own ego's sake. Year's back this website (and others), fishermen posted what was happening in our jewel, not a month later. Me: Got it. You want PBers running over your lines. Get off the couch, or out of the cubicle and fish. You: It just seems to me (maybe I'm alone), that the new generation would like nothing more to than have Josh show them how, go out, catch fish, and keep it among themselves, thereby giving them more opportuntity to repeat it in the next few days, before anyone really finds out about the "bite". Kudos to you. Me: You misspelled opportunity. Also, if you want to know what is going on, PM someone, hell PM me. I will tell you what I know and do my damndest to get you on a fish. Again, I hate the timely report because it goes out into the ether where PBers read it, then they run over your lines and the school of yellows you have been tailing for 20 minutes. And leave Josh out of it, he is a hell of a fisherman, no matter what I say about him. You: I liked this website a lot better when Iceman, Katchfish, Arne, Madscientist, Pat, etc., would let you know what was going on, than the current trend. Me: Times change. Do a search on all the "old school" guys you love and see how many timely reports they have posted recently. There seems to be a progression on this site. First, you post everything. Then, you only post the special, then you progress to not posting much of anything unless it is old enough to have allowed for a change in the pattern. You start as a lurker, you end as a lurker. You: So, you've got lots of friends that will let you in on the "secret". Good for you. I paddle, even though I'm probably twice your age, without fish-finder (for now), and be happy when I catch fish. I'll still enjoy our ocean. Me: I am 33, although I feel 43 ( I blame the job). Again, they are great guys, but they are unwilling to wait around for Neptune to cough up a fish retarded enough to bite. They use finders, they study patterns, they fish for themselves and do NOT wait for someone else to do the pattern analysis for them. They swap technique with abandon, try the new, test the old, and do everything in their power to learn from every trip. No "Secret", time on the water......that is it, time on the water. More of that and less waiting around for the timely report and you would not care what someone posts, unless it is something that is gonna have repercussions (i.e. PBers running over your lines from a timely report). You: And I won't feel any remorse in not informing other kayak fishermen when I can help. Me: You should have left off the not, as it stands, this statement has a double negative going on. Anyways, I know what you meant to say, and I agree. I just do it with the PM, the fish report I will save for the new guys, and the special. You: Aaron not so LMFAO Me: Still LMFAO, but seriously, PM me if you are headed out, I will give you everything I know.

08-20-2011, 11:20 PM	#6
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	ok ok I'lltalk. dorado being caught off nw corner! And I told a school of yt to stay put until tomorrow morning......

08-20-2011, 11:50 PM	#12
Whizz Bang Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 396	Aaron, We are all good, however, I would not forget the all important ' as in..... anybody's offer OR anybodies' offer. Tight lines.

08-20-2011, 11:55 PM	#14
Aaron&Julie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring Valley Posts: 1,400	I'm not dissing Josh, he's a great fisherman, no denying. I wonder why all of the "old schoolers" left, is all? I'd rather go skunked, than be on "it", with the new generation. Don't bother replying Whizz Bang, with all of your hot spots. We'll just love La Jolla without you, or fish finders or peddling devices. Sure, we might catch less fish, so what? __________________ "Never say die"

08-21-2011, 12:10 AM	#15
Whizz Bang Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 396	Got it, but I will reply anyway. I have nothing against you. My offer stands, I love to see Yakkers get on fish. You and I just have a fundamentally different view on how to disseminate that information. The "new" generation aren't bad people, even if some of them choose not to post. As for the question of where the "old schoolers" went? My best guess is that they are still checking this site, it is just that most of them choose to no longer post the timely report.....or report at all. Their reasons are their own.

08-21-2011, 09:45 AM	#16
DanaPT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South OC Posts: 1,606	tough crowd. . . In the camp of sharing what you want to share. Others who keep it to themselves, no one is "hating" on you. If you don't want to share, don't share.