DFG MEETING ROLL CALL! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

so cal shaggy · 12-09-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bellcon

(anyone ever figure out who that dick was?)

His name is Scott Dunn and anti fishing kayak guide(?) from the Malibu area. He is very arrogant and thinks (like many of the anti fishing people) that their POV is the only view and that we should adopt their ideas and mindset.

Billy V · 12-09-2009, 11:27 PM

We have to follow through with DFG to the end. They are just getting to know us, and we made some strong point before them today.

This game is far from over, and we can turn the tide if we are diligent.
SouthWest Airlines has Cheap Air Fares in Cali, and I intend on flying them when possible.

As you may have seen today ceded time requires that you accumulate 15 speaker cards in addition to your own for a 3 minute presentation, so attendance is going to play a crucial role at future meetings.

Thank You to everyone who participated today, and thanks to the people who gave me your valuable speaking time so I could send our unified message from the kayak fishing and spear fishing communities at today's meeting.

zenspearo · 12-09-2009, 11:49 PM

Kudos to those who made it. I got hammered with an emergency at work AS I WAS DRIVING UP with a long-standing client...had to do quick fixes all day in a parking lot (thank god for laptop, verizon tethered modem and cell phone) and saved the account.

I guess work finally caught up with me...

Again, thanks to all who spoke up.

.

PAL · 12-10-2009, 06:54 AM

Commissioner Richards' remarks start at the 4:35:46 mark of the meeting archive, available here: http://www.cal-span.org/cgi-bin/media.pl?folder=CFG

I'm still reviewing it for the first time. I attended through 11:40 but had to head home to San Diego for a family matter, but I wasn't worried in the least. I knew the kayak fishing community was well covered by those who made the sacrifice to attend. You guys are the best. Huge props to Billy for playing hurt and still hitting one out of the park. Gibsonesque.

Matt · 12-10-2009, 07:39 AM

I 100 percent agree with Dos Ballenas! Please keep the attendance up! And if yesterday was your first meeting that you could make THANK YOU!

I spoke to a gentleman named Marcus who is a PB'er who mainly fishes in Mex, but is still willing to show up and fight for kayak fisherman's rights and said he would attend as many meetings as he could! Now you gotta applaud that and many others just like him, so get involved and let's save LJ!

Matt · 12-10-2009, 07:48 AM

I know more than a few of the LA guys are gonna be driving alot as will I and Billy V and i'm sure a few others! Please everyone make all the meetings that you can the DFG commission seems to be far more on our side than I ever expected!

And I agree with Dgax on the point of we should have multiple speakers who can get across specific points in a one minute speech that clearly emphasizes one or two specific points as we will not always be able to cede our times to assure ourselves of a 3minute time slot.

Roadtrip anyone?

shortstack · 12-10-2009, 09:13 AM

I moved here from Michigan almost two years ago, I can't understand how anyone can see the MLPA is going to help!! I've herd both sides of the story, It makes no sense!!!!!! 30 years ago Lake Erie was so polluted that it actually caught on fire!! You couldn't eat the fish, and the fishery was almost non existent. This was the story with many lakes in MI and WI, The enviros and DFG or DNR all got together and found ways to improve the system, Not closing down fishing areas!!! Michigan today has some of the nations best fishing and hunting. Why are we letting the state gov rape the DFG of their role in Habitat recovery!!! Why are we letting the State rape the DFG of funds and JOBS!!!!!!! It all makes no sense to me when you see other states with successful Natural resource programs. The MLPA makes no sense!!!!

dgax65 · 12-10-2009, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy V

This game is far from over, and we can turn the tide if we are diligent.
SouthWest Airlines has Cheap Air Fares in Cali, and I intend on flying them when possible.

As you may have seen today ceded time requires that you accumulate 15 speaker cards in addition to your own for a 3 minute presentation, so attendance is going to play a crucial role at future meetings.

When they revisit this issue at later meetings, we might not be guaranteed a large turnout. We can hardly expect a large number of SoCal kayak fishermen to fly up to Sacramento. I think we need to work on developing clear, concise one minute presentations. We should use each available speaker to hit a specific point that we need to get across to the commission. I know that it feels good to get up there and give 'em hell, but we would be better served by using individuals to address specific aspects of our message.

I don't know about all of you, but I'm getting ready for some road trips. Follow the link for Fish and Game Commission 2010 meeting schedule.

http://www.fgc.ca.gov/meetings/2010/2010mtgs.asp

Most of the 2010 meetings are in central California. Keep checking that page to see when the meeting agendas are posted. You'll probably be notified as well if you're on the MLPA email list.

12-09-2009, 11:49 PM	#3
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	Kudos to those who made it. I got hammered with an emergency at work AS I WAS DRIVING UP with a long-standing client...had to do quick fixes all day in a parking lot (thank god for laptop, verizon tethered modem and cell phone) and saved the account. I guess work finally caught up with me... Again, thanks to all who spoke up. . __________________ A spearo, but we are in this MLPA mess together

12-10-2009, 07:39 AM	#5
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	I 100 percent agree with Dos Ballenas! Please keep the attendance up! And if yesterday was your first meeting that you could make THANK YOU! I spoke to a gentleman named Marcus who is a PB'er who mainly fishes in Mex, but is still willing to show up and fight for kayak fisherman's rights and said he would attend as many meetings as he could! Now you gotta applaud that and many others just like him, so get involved and let's save LJ! __________________ Thanks Matt F.

12-10-2009, 07:48 AM	#6
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	I know more than a few of the LA guys are gonna be driving alot as will I and Billy V and i'm sure a few others! Please everyone make all the meetings that you can the DFG commission seems to be far more on our side than I ever expected! And I agree with Dgax on the point of we should have multiple speakers who can get across specific points in a one minute speech that clearly emphasizes one or two specific points as we will not always be able to cede our times to assure ourselves of a 3minute time slot. Roadtrip anyone? __________________ Thanks Matt F.

12-10-2009, 09:13 AM	#7
shortstack Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: LJ Posts: 97	WOW!!!!!!What B.S. I moved here from Michigan almost two years ago, I can't understand how anyone can see the MLPA is going to help!! I've herd both sides of the story, It makes no sense!!!!!! 30 years ago Lake Erie was so polluted that it actually caught on fire!! You couldn't eat the fish, and the fishery was almost non existent. This was the story with many lakes in MI and WI, The enviros and DFG or DNR all got together and found ways to improve the system, Not closing down fishing areas!!! Michigan today has some of the nations best fishing and hunting. Why are we letting the state gov rape the DFG of their role in Habitat recovery!!! Why are we letting the State rape the DFG of funds and JOBS!!!!!!! It all makes no sense to me when you see other states with successful Natural resource programs. The MLPA makes no sense!!!!

12-09-2009, 11:27 PM	#2
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	We have to follow through with DFG to the end. They are just getting to know us, and we made some strong point before them today. This game is far from over, and we can turn the tide if we are diligent. SouthWest Airlines has Cheap Air Fares in Cali, and I intend on flying them when possible. As you may have seen today ceded time requires that you accumulate 15 speaker cards in addition to your own for a 3 minute presentation, so attendance is going to play a crucial role at future meetings. Thank You to everyone who participated today, and thanks to the people who gave me your valuable speaking time so I could send our unified message from the kayak fishing and spear fishing communities at today's meeting.

12-10-2009, 06:54 AM	#4
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	Commissioner Richards' remarks start at the 4:35:46 mark of the meeting archive, available here: http://www.cal-span.org/cgi-bin/media.pl?folder=CFG I'm still reviewing it for the first time. I attended through 11:40 but had to head home to San Diego for a family matter, but I wasn't worried in the least. I knew the kayak fishing community was well covered by those who made the sacrifice to attend. You guys are the best. Huge props to Billy for playing hurt and still hitting one out of the park. Gibsonesque.