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Old 05-09-2014, 05:03 AM   #1
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I see a spear
I see a lobster

Spear + Lobster = No Bueno
thats correct, while diving :tickle stick and bare hands.
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:52 AM   #2
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thats correct, while diving :tickle stick and bare hands.
Actually, the regs state..no hooked devices, so no tickle sticks. You're usually fine with a speargun as long as there are no holes in your lobster. Though depending on the type of tip on your gun an argument can be made that a flopper tip is a hooked device, though never heard anyone being called out on it.

As for the pic with the abalone, the guy runs Clout surf shop in Malibu and makes these stupid staged videos to promote his shop. Pretty sure he bought the abs at an Asian market because he didn't pop them off that SoCal pier in 6 ft of water as the video would have you believe.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:23 AM   #3
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As everyone else says LEGAL IS LEGAL. But how many guys out in La Jolla have gone out on countless trips for a YT or WSB and come ashore with a sunburn and a "RELAXING" trip and "ENJOYED" the scenery?...tons of people. Who knows maybe that's his first thresher he has ever pulled in and he wanted to try it. I doubt many if any know that guys back story. The ocean is not always a Red Lobster for EVERYONE. You can't just drop a bait down and be like YUP! I want the 70# YT! You get what you get and you don't throw a fit...it comes down to the individual's rules of thumb, or realization of this is my first legal hook up in 5 years on the hunt.. I want the taste! Now I can understand some could look down upon the individual if he was a Thresher Slayer and had smaller models mounted on his walls, a thresher skin wallet-belt-hat-or boots. But a post on craigslist doesn't show that. I don't even eat fish and have let everything go I have ever caught, but by all means if you take a legal trophy or trophies home to cook up, Im'a tell you that I hope it tastes great. Either way guys and gals.... Work harder so you can get on the water faster and fishing is your serenity, your peace. As long as you go by the book.... Don't let anyone ruin your time out
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:57 AM   #4
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Actually, the regs state..no hooked devices, so no tickle sticks. You're usually fine with a speargun as long as there are no holes in your lobster. Though depending on the type of tip on your gun an argument can be made that a flopper tip is a hooked device, though never heard anyone being called out on it.

As for the pic with the abalone, the guy runs Clout surf shop in Malibu and makes these stupid staged videos to promote his shop. Pretty sure he bought the abs at an Asian market because he didn't pop them off that SoCal pier in 6 ft of water as the video would have you believe.
I noticed that was the Clout yahoo also and chocked it up there with some of the other bonehead stunts he's pulled in the past. Does everyone recall the video of the wanker in the zodiac showing off the 4 or 5 WSB he caught?! That was his doing.

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Old 05-09-2014, 12:05 PM   #5
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I noticed that was the Clout yahoo also and chocked it up there with some of the other bonehead stunts he's pulled in the past. Does everyone recall the video of the wanker in the zodiac showing off the 4 or 5 WSB he caught?! That was his doing.

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Old 05-09-2014, 01:32 PM   #6
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Just to clear up my position:

If it is legal...it is up to the individual to establish his moral/ ethical guideline that may be above the minimum of the law.



Many/ most of us have many "higher rules" that we establish for ourselves.




Telling others that their legal activity that does not meet my "higher" standard is where I differ with Kareem. If you use that logic, Who is to say that you doing fishing thats all C&R is not actually more cruel than keeping fish. Someone might say that a harvested fish feeds a family, man, etc.

A C&R fish just hurts innocent fish and possibly injures them to die later in the water.

Do you see the danger of making our moral values everyone else's?



Most (sadly not all) fishermen will exercise good judgement,,,,,cant get em all.
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Old 05-10-2014, 10:44 AM   #7
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Telling others that their legal activity that does not meet my "higher" standard is where I differ with Kareem. If you use that logic, Who is to say that you doing fishing thats all C&R is not actually more cruel than keeping fish. Someone might say that a harvested fish feeds a family, man, etc.

A C&R fish just hurts innocent fish and possibly injures them to die later in the water.
Really?
You really think that's what this is about?
Pull your head out.

How bout this. Go catch one of those pups off a party boat. Tell the deckhand it's legal and you want it.
Not going to happen on any boat I've ever been on in 45 years. And if by chance a green pinhead did
Stab it/hand line whatever onto the boat every "fishermen" on the boat will give them shit.

Why do you think that is?
Because there's more to being a fishermen/women than killing something just because "it's legal".
It's your responsibility as a person who respects our fishery to point out whats right/wrong. Why? Because you have a direct interest. It effects you, your kids, your grandkids....

I don't see it as being "higher" than anyone. I see it as an opportunity to educate the new comers to the sport.

Some just will not get it.

Hay new commers to So Cal Sportfishing:
The season is around the corner.
Go out and fill your milk crates with 5-10lb t sharks. "It's legal". Make sure you get lot's of pics too so you can show everyone at the office how dangerous kayak fishing is.


Who's anyone to impose their "higher standards" on you.

I'm done
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:07 AM   #8
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Really?
You really think that's what this is about?
Pull your head out.

How bout this. Go catch one of those pups off a party boat. Tell the deckhand it's legal and you want it.
Not going to happen on any boat I've ever been on in 45 years. And if by chance a green pinhead did
Stab it/hand line whatever onto the boat every "fishermen" on the boat will give them shit.

Why do you think that is?
Because there's more to being a fishermen/women than killing something just because "it's legal".
It's your responsibility as a person who respects our fishery to point out whats right/wrong. Why? Because you have a direct interest. It effects you, your kids, your grandkids....

I don't see it as being "higher" than anyone. I see it as an opportunity to educate the new comers to the sport.

Some just will not get it.

Hay new commers to So Cal Sportfishing:
The season is around the corner.
Go out and fill your milk crates with 5-10lb t sharks. "It's legal". Make sure you get lot's of pics too so you can show everyone at the office how dangerous kayak fishing is.


Who's anyone to impose their "higher standards" on you.

I'm done
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Old 05-10-2014, 02:27 PM   #9
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Really?
You really think that's what this is about?
Pull your head out.

How bout this. Go catch one of those pups off a party boat. Tell the deckhand it's legal and you want it.
Not going to happen on any boat I've ever been on in 45 years. And if by chance a green pinhead did
Stab it/hand line whatever onto the boat every "fishermen" on the boat will give them shit.

Why do you think that is?
Because there's more to being a fishermen/women than killing something just because "it's legal".
It's your responsibility as a person who respects our fishery to point out whats right/wrong. Why? Because you have a direct interest. It effects you, your kids, your grandkids....

I don't see it as being "higher" than anyone. I see it as an opportunity to educate the new comers to the sport.

Some just will not get it.

Hay new commers to So Cal Sportfishing:
The season is around the corner.
Go out and fill your milk crates with 5-10lb t sharks. "It's legal". Make sure you get lot's of pics too so you can show everyone at the office how dangerous kayak fishing is.


Who's anyone to impose their "higher standards" on you.

I'm done

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We need to implement common sense Thresher regulation. If you don't agree then you're anti-fishery. It's for the children.
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