If you see this guy on the water - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

bubblehide · 05-08-2014, 08:25 PM

For Reds, they look to be on the small side. And considering that her hair is dry, I'd have to guess that whoever took the photo got at least 1 of those.

jorluivil · 05-08-2014, 08:46 PM

I see a spear
I see a lobster

Spear + Lobster = No Bueno

Zed · 05-08-2014, 08:53 PM

The seastar looks small.

YakDout · 05-09-2014, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorluivil

I see a spear
I see a lobster

Spear + Lobster = No Bueno

thats correct, while diving :tickle stick and bare hands.

bluesquids · 05-09-2014, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by YakDout

thats correct, while diving :tickle stick and bare hands.

Actually, the regs state..no hooked devices, so no tickle sticks. You're usually fine with a speargun as long as there are no holes in your lobster. Though depending on the type of tip on your gun an argument can be made that a flopper tip is a hooked device, though never heard anyone being called out on it.

As for the pic with the abalone, the guy runs Clout surf shop in Malibu and makes these stupid staged videos to promote his shop. Pretty sure he bought the abs at an Asian market because he didn't pop them off that SoCal pier in 6 ft of water as the video would have you believe.

Grunt31 · 05-09-2014, 10:23 AM

As everyone else says LEGAL IS LEGAL. But how many guys out in La Jolla have gone out on countless trips for a YT or WSB and come ashore with a sunburn and a "RELAXING" trip and "ENJOYED" the scenery?...tons of people. Who knows maybe that's his first thresher he has ever pulled in and he wanted to try it. I doubt many if any know that guys back story. The ocean is not always a Red Lobster for EVERYONE. You can't just drop a bait down and be like YUP! I want the 70# YT! You get what you get and you don't throw a fit...it comes down to the individual's rules of thumb, or realization of this is my first legal hook up in 5 years on the hunt.. I want the taste! Now I can understand some could look down upon the individual if he was a Thresher Slayer and had smaller models mounted on his walls, a thresher skin wallet-belt-hat-or boots. But a post on craigslist doesn't show that. I don't even eat fish and have let everything go I have ever caught, but by all means if you take a legal trophy or trophies home to cook up, Im'a tell you that I hope it tastes great. Either way guys and gals.... Work harder so you can get on the water faster and fishing is your serenity, your peace. As long as you go by the book.... Don't let anyone ruin your time out

WildernessWanker · 05-09-2014, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesquids

Actually, the regs state..no hooked devices, so no tickle sticks. You're usually fine with a speargun as long as there are no holes in your lobster. Though depending on the type of tip on your gun an argument can be made that a flopper tip is a hooked device, though never heard anyone being called out on it.

As for the pic with the abalone, the guy runs Clout surf shop in Malibu and makes these stupid staged videos to promote his shop. Pretty sure he bought the abs at an Asian market because he didn't pop them off that SoCal pier in 6 ft of water as the video would have you believe.

I noticed that was the Clout yahoo also and chocked it up there with some of the other bonehead stunts he's pulled in the past. Does everyone recall the video of the wanker in the zodiac showing off the 4 or 5 WSB he caught?! That was his doing.

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wiredantz · 05-09-2014, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WildernessWanker

I noticed that was the Clout yahoo also and chocked it up there with some of the other bonehead stunts he's pulled in the past. Does everyone recall the video of the wanker in the zodiac showing off the 4 or 5 WSB he caught?! That was his doing.

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StinkyMatt · 05-09-2014, 01:32 PM

Just to clear up my position:

If it is legal...it is up to the individual to establish his moral/ ethical guideline that may be above the minimum of the law.

Many/ most of us have many "higher rules" that we establish for ourselves.

Telling others that their legal activity that does not meet my "higher" standard is where I differ with Kareem. If you use that logic, Who is to say that you doing fishing thats all C&R is not actually more cruel than keeping fish. Someone might say that a harvested fish feeds a family, man, etc.

A C&R fish just hurts innocent fish and possibly injures them to die later in the water.

Do you see the danger of making our moral values everyone else's?

Most (sadly not all) fishermen will exercise good judgement,,,,,cant get em all.

rhyak · 05-09-2014, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubblehide

For Reds, they look to be on the small side. And considering that her hair is dry, I'd have to guess that whoever took the photo got at least 1 of those.

YEah not only that but this guy has abalone and a lobster in the same shot.

Did I miss something here on where we can dive for abs?

bus kid · 05-09-2014, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhyak

YEah not only that but this guy has abalone and a lobster in the same shot.

Did I miss something here on where we can dive for abs?

oooohhhhh that's a abalone in her hand, sorry my bad.

StinkyMatt · 05-09-2014, 06:18 AM

She looks legal!

Original post was completely different.....we were talking about perfectly LEGAL harvest activities.

kayachapi · 05-09-2014, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bus kid

oooohhhhh that's a abalone in her hand, sorry my bad.

Hahahahah!

kareem korn · 05-09-2014, 07:41 AM

Rule of thumb is 100#+ acceptable to harvest. In the last ten years kayakers have set their moral standard at 50#. Which is a decent fish to catch off a kayak and is a fair amount of meat.
Now it looks like the new group of expert kayakers are lowering their standards to week old pups.
It's a shame.
But fuck it it's legal.

I'm not sitting high on the horse, but after 45 years of fishing the california coast I have common sense to know right from wrong.

Comparing a green bass to a new born t is stupid.
Walk up dvl ramp with a stringer of "legal" lmb. Show them around the parking lot. Post pics.
Tell me you wont get shit for that

wiredantz · 05-09-2014, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareem korn

Rule of thumb is 100#+ acceptable to harvest. In the last ten years kayakers have set their moral standard at 50#. Which is a decent fish to catch off a kayak and is a fair amount of meat.
Now it looks like the new group of expert kayakers are lowering their standards to week old pups.
It's a shame.
But fuck it it's legal.

I'm not sitting high on the horse, but after 45 years of fishing the california coast I have common sense to know right from wrong.

Comparing a green bass to a new born t is stupid.
Walk up dvl ramp with a stringer of "legal" lmb. Show them around the parking lot. Post pics.
Tell me you wont get shit for that

I think this conversation is better suited for the people who makes the fishing regulations. History has shown that people have trouble doing what is morally right.* Its like cheating on your wife knowing that she will never find out. What human law is their to say it is illegal to cheat on your wife, yet people still do it. etc.

kareem korn · 05-09-2014, 08:11 AM

Yeah, it's just a shame to see.
It's even worse when some dont see a problem with it.

TJones · 05-09-2014, 08:11 AM

[QUOTE=kareem korn;193527]Rule of thumb is 100#+ acceptable to harvest. In the last ten years kayakers have set their moral standard at 50#. Which is a decent fish to catch off a kayak and is a fair amount of meat.
Now it looks like the new group of expert kayakers are lowering their standards to week old pups.
It's a shame.
But fuck it it's legal.

I'm not sitting high on the horse, but after 45 years of fishing the california coast I have common sense to know right from wrong.

Comparing a green bass to a new born t is stupid.
Walk up dvl ramp with a stringer of "legal" lmb. Show them around the parking lot. Post pics.
Tell me you wont get shit for that[/

Zed · 05-09-2014, 08:29 AM

Ive said this so many times over the years but taking a thresher is a huge PITA.
Ive been involved w 2. Mine was the 4th I caught and I wanted to eat one. The care involved to keep it good is extensive. You have to have the space to dress it then chill it then clean it then store it all after you get the damn thing to shore.

The second I was involved w taking died head down in the mud in 300' off Laguna. It had to be winched up tail first the last 20min and it was muddy past its pecs. That one was well over 100 and was an exponential PITA. It gets harder to keep it good w everything involved in prep.

I recco you have your ice and giant chest ready before you go out. Get to the beach fast and get it cool fast. Dress it then pack w ice and let it chill maybe overnight. Then sharpen your knife and get to steaking w breaks to resharpen your knife often.

To me now they are a pain and a pest and Id rather spend the time treating hemorrhoids or getting a root canal.

Zed · 05-09-2014, 08:39 AM

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bubblehide · 05-09-2014, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhyak

YEah not only that but this guy has abalone and a lobster in the same shot.

Did I miss something here on where we can dive for abs?

In southern Ca, Abs are a no no. Otherwise, the last time I checked, it depended on where you were, with a limit of 2 per person, and a yearly bag limit. However, I have not checked the regs on Abs, in over 2 years, and for Abs, they seem to change on a fairly regular basis, usually becomming more and more restrictive.

You can freedive for Abs, but no scuba, not in Ca anyway.

05-08-2014, 08:25 PM	#1
bubblehide Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 552	For Reds, they look to be on the small side. And considering that her hair is dry, I'd have to guess that whoever took the photo got at least 1 of those. Last edited by bubblehide; 05-08-2014 at 08:31 PM.

05-08-2014, 08:46 PM	#2
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	I see a spear I see a lobster Spear + Lobster = No Bueno __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

05-08-2014, 08:53 PM	#3
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	The seastar looks small. __________________ Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.

05-09-2014, 08:11 AM	#17
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,526	stay on target [QUOTE=kareem korn;193527]Rule of thumb is 100#+ acceptable to harvest. In the last ten years kayakers have set their moral standard at 50#. Which is a decent fish to catch off a kayak and is a fair amount of meat. Now it looks like the new group of expert kayakers are lowering their standards to week old pups. It's a shame. But fuck it it's legal. I'm not sitting high on the horse, but after 45 years of fishing the california coast I have common sense to know right from wrong. Comparing a green bass to a new born t is stupid. Walk up dvl ramp with a stringer of "legal" lmb. Show them around the parking lot. Post pics. Tell me you wont get shit for that[/

05-09-2014, 08:29 AM	#18
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	Ive said this so many times over the years but taking a thresher is a huge PITA. Ive been involved w 2. Mine was the 4th I caught and I wanted to eat one. The care involved to keep it good is extensive. You have to have the space to dress it then chill it then clean it then store it all after you get the damn thing to shore. The second I was involved w taking died head down in the mud in 300' off Laguna. It had to be winched up tail first the last 20min and it was muddy past its pecs. That one was well over 100 and was an exponential PITA. It gets harder to keep it good w everything involved in prep. I recco you have your ice and giant chest ready before you go out. Get to the beach fast and get it cool fast. Dress it then pack w ice and let it chill maybe overnight. Then sharpen your knife and get to steaking w breaks to resharpen your knife often. To me now they are a pain and a pest and Id rather spend the time treating hemorrhoids or getting a root canal. __________________ Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.

05-09-2014, 10:23 AM	#6
Grunt31 Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pendleton Posts: 80	As everyone else says LEGAL IS LEGAL. But how many guys out in La Jolla have gone out on countless trips for a YT or WSB and come ashore with a sunburn and a "RELAXING" trip and "ENJOYED" the scenery?...tons of people. Who knows maybe that's his first thresher he has ever pulled in and he wanted to try it. I doubt many if any know that guys back story. The ocean is not always a Red Lobster for EVERYONE. You can't just drop a bait down and be like YUP! I want the 70# YT! You get what you get and you don't throw a fit...it comes down to the individual's rules of thumb, or realization of this is my first legal hook up in 5 years on the hunt.. I want the taste! Now I can understand some could look down upon the individual if he was a Thresher Slayer and had smaller models mounted on his walls, a thresher skin wallet-belt-hat-or boots. But a post on craigslist doesn't show that. I don't even eat fish and have let everything go I have ever caught, but by all means if you take a legal trophy or trophies home to cook up, Im'a tell you that I hope it tastes great. Either way guys and gals.... Work harder so you can get on the water faster and fishing is your serenity, your peace. As long as you go by the book.... Don't let anyone ruin your time out

05-09-2014, 01:32 PM	#9
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	Just to clear up my position: If it is legal...it is up to the individual to establish his moral/ ethical guideline that may be above the minimum of the law. Many/ most of us have many "higher rules" that we establish for ourselves. Telling others that their legal activity that does not meet my "higher" standard is where I differ with Kareem. If you use that logic, Who is to say that you doing fishing thats all C&R is not actually more cruel than keeping fish. Someone might say that a harvested fish feeds a family, man, etc. A C&R fish just hurts innocent fish and possibly injures them to die later in the water. Do you see the danger of making our moral values everyone else's? Most (sadly not all) fishermen will exercise good judgement,,,,,cant get em all.

05-09-2014, 06:18 AM	#12
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	She looks legal! Original post was completely different.....we were talking about perfectly LEGAL harvest activities.

05-09-2014, 07:41 AM	#14
kareem korn Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: C-bad Posts: 431	Rule of thumb is 100#+ acceptable to harvest. In the last ten years kayakers have set their moral standard at 50#. Which is a decent fish to catch off a kayak and is a fair amount of meat. Now it looks like the new group of expert kayakers are lowering their standards to week old pups. It's a shame. But fuck it it's legal. I'm not sitting high on the horse, but after 45 years of fishing the california coast I have common sense to know right from wrong. Comparing a green bass to a new born t is stupid. Walk up dvl ramp with a stringer of "legal" lmb. Show them around the parking lot. Post pics. Tell me you wont get shit for that

05-09-2014, 08:39 AM	#19
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	.. __________________ Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week. Last edited by Zed; 05-09-2014 at 02:27 PM.