Kayakers rescued Friday 2/18 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

rogersmith · 02-18-2011, 01:25 PM

At least they dont sound like fisherman...

Kayakers rescued off La Jolla Shores

By Jen Lebron Kuhney Friday, February 18, 2011 at 12:04 p.m.
LA JOLLA — Three kayakers were rescued Friday morning after high winds and rough ocean conditions pushed them a couple of miles off La Jolla Shores, said San Diego lifeguards.
A man and a woman, both 25, and a man who worked for a kayak rental company called for help about 11 a.m., said lifeguard Lt. John Everhart.
Lifeguards sent two small watercraft to bring the kayakers back to shore safely by 11:40 a.m.
A gale-force warning was issued by the National Weather Service beginning at 1 p.m. on Friday and will be in effect until 7 a.m. Saturday.
Everhart said it is not advisable to take small crafts out on the water until the advisory is lifted.

onetriphudson · 02-18-2011, 01:39 PM

Is there any attempted strategy for what to do besides paddle your ass off or just hold on tight?!?

Not that many guys carry anchors, but would something like that help?

What about jumping in the water to swim and just tow your kayak? Provided that you are in good shape and have a wetsuit on.

YakMedic · 02-18-2011, 01:50 PM

Never forget we are at the mercy of the ocean. And those small craft advisory's are no joke.

Jim Sammons LJKF · 02-18-2011, 02:09 PM

NEVER LEAVE YOUR KAYAK. I guarantee you will wear yourself out in minutes trying to tow it and you are much safer on it getting blown out to see than you are jumping in the water when it is in the 50's.
Then again use some common sense and choose your days wisely and don't over estimate your abilities.

Jimmyz123 · 02-18-2011, 02:13 PM

I second what Jim said. Jumping in the water in, though it's not freezing out, will still cause major problems.

I had the day off from work due to Pinkeye and thought about going out, that thought lasted about 2 minutes and then I remembered what the weather was suppose to be like.

BE SMART people never paddle out if you don't feel that it's safe to do so.

onetriphudson · 02-18-2011, 02:19 PM

Swimming is not a good option, check! Thanks Jim!

This guy had no choice...

http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/ns...072314641.html

Damn those aussies are tough!

wiredantz · 02-18-2011, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogersmith

At least they dont sound like fisherman...

Kayakers rescued off La Jolla Shores

By Jen Lebron Kuhney Friday, February 18, 2011 at 12:04 p.m.
LA JOLLA — Three kayakers were rescued Friday morning after high winds and rough ocean conditions pushed them a couple of miles off La Jolla Shores, said San Diego lifeguards.
A man and a woman, both 25, and a man who worked for a kayak rental company called for help about 11 a.m., said lifeguard Lt. John Everhart.
Lifeguards sent two small watercraft to bring the kayakers back to shore safely by 11:40 a.m.
A gale-force warning was issued by the National Weather Service beginning at 1 p.m. on Friday and will be in effect until 7 a.m. Saturday.
Everhart said it is not advisable to take small crafts out on the water until the advisory is lifted.

I check the report 1 hour before i leave home, if it looks good ill go out. If there is any concern about safety i choose to stay home.

Iceman · 02-18-2011, 02:49 PM

really...........rescued in 12 kt winds?!?!

dorado50 · 02-18-2011, 03:13 PM

BE SMART people never paddle out if you don't feel that it's safe to do so.[/QUOTE]

Dude, thats the problem!!! most kayak people don't know what is safe and what is'nt...da

Lets keep it real here.

YakMedic · 02-18-2011, 03:14 PM

12 knots and 15 gusts isn't very significant. At least usually doesn't req a rescue.

dorado50 · 02-18-2011, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakMedic

12 knots and 15 gusts isn't very significant. At least usually doesn't req a rescue.

My point exactly.... that didn't take long

m1k3midg3 · 02-18-2011, 03:23 PM

there was one time where i didnt feel like it was safe to paddle out but did so anyways and it nearly got me killed but i do have to admit it was funner than hell and i would totally do it again. 15 foot waves are AWESOME to try to kayak surf. i had an anchor with me and i wiped out and the anchor line got wrapped round me but i was able to do untangle myself underwater.

mtnbykr2 · 02-18-2011, 03:24 PM

I guess it depends on wether you are paddling or pedaling, but I have been caught in naaaasty off shores, scarrey but doable, and it will wear you down...again be aware of the weather...

YakMedic · 02-18-2011, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorado50

My point exactly.... that didn't take long

Really...
My point is that 12 knot winds should not require a rescue. Should you go out in those winds? No, however if you were on the water and the winds came up. Would you require a rescue to get back to shore?

bigbarrels · 02-18-2011, 04:24 PM

you would think those kayak rental companies would keep a good eye on the current and predicted conditions before taking their clueless customers out

wonder if they charged extra for the extended tour of La Jolla?

bus kid · 02-18-2011, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakMedic

Really...
My point is that 12 knot winds should not require a rescue. Should you go out in those winds? No, however if you were on the water and the winds came up. Would you require a rescue to get back to shore?

tourist, probably never paddled or peddled a yak. The rental company should have know better.

the real question is how did they get in contact with the lifeguards, from a post I read, it sounded like that is almost impossible.

hay yakmedic, is it just me or is your kayak sitting low in the water in your avatar, passing wave?

YakMedic · 02-18-2011, 05:02 PM

hay yakmedic, is it just me or is your kayak sitting low in the water in your avatar, passing wave?[/QUOTE]

Both,
I'm not a little guy, I have a xfactor now also so it rides higher.

Aaron&Julie · 02-18-2011, 05:05 PM

I tend to agree, that those people were out of their element.
We've had to go 3 miles from the south LJ kelp with a strong downhill current against us, and 15mph+ North winds in our face, to get back to the launch. It probably took us over 2 hours to do it and it was the hardest we ever had to work, but it beats ending up in TJ.
Add-on: we paddled our Fish n Dives using the original paddles that came with our Cobra package. Too short, bad design, and heavier than the Werner 2-piece ones we bought last year.
On the plus note, Julie caught her 1st WSB (30+) in the south kelp area, and I managed to end the long day/paddle with a yellow (30+), once we passed the Condo. Just rewards, but made one helluva workout worthwhile

GregAndrew · 02-18-2011, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onetriphudson

Is there any attempted strategy for what to do besides paddle your ass off or just hold on tight?!?

Not that many guys carry anchors, but would something like that help?

What about jumping in the water to swim and just tow your kayak? Provided that you are in good shape and have a wetsuit on.

An anchor would probably cause more problems than it would be worth. A drift chute on an anchor trolley could help if you had given up on trying to reach shore for a time. The Drift Chute would slow you down, and by positioning it, on the anchor trolley, at the bow or stern you would become less of a sail. There is lots of Bull Kelp, that stretches out a long way from shore, on the South side of LJ that you could possibly tie up to also.

WahooUSMA · 02-18-2011, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakMedic

Really...
My point is that 12 knot winds should not require a rescue. Should you go out in those winds? No, however if you were on the water and the winds came up. Would you require a rescue to get back to shore?

See graph above from Ice!

02-18-2011, 01:25 PM	#1
rogersmith Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 465	Kayakers rescued Friday 2/18 At least they dont sound like fisherman... Kayakers rescued off La Jolla Shores By Jen Lebron Kuhney Friday, February 18, 2011 at 12:04 p.m. LA JOLLA — Three kayakers were rescued Friday morning after high winds and rough ocean conditions pushed them a couple of miles off La Jolla Shores, said San Diego lifeguards. A man and a woman, both 25, and a man who worked for a kayak rental company called for help about 11 a.m., said lifeguard Lt. John Everhart. Lifeguards sent two small watercraft to bring the kayakers back to shore safely by 11:40 a.m. A gale-force warning was issued by the National Weather Service beginning at 1 p.m. on Friday and will be in effect until 7 a.m. Saturday. Everhart said it is not advisable to take small crafts out on the water until the advisory is lifted.

02-18-2011, 02:09 PM	#4
Jim Sammons LJKF Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 947	NEVER LEAVE YOUR KAYAK. I guarantee you will wear yourself out in minutes trying to tow it and you are much safer on it getting blown out to see than you are jumping in the water when it is in the 50's. Then again use some common sense and choose your days wisely and don't over estimate your abilities. __________________ Jim Sammons La Jolla Kayak Fishing The Kayak Fishing Show JimSammons.com

02-18-2011, 02:49 PM	#8
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,943	really...........rescued in 12 kt winds?!?! __________________

02-18-2011, 05:05 PM	#18
Aaron&Julie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring Valley Posts: 1,400	I tend to agree, that those people were out of their element. We've had to go 3 miles from the south LJ kelp with a strong downhill current against us, and 15mph+ North winds in our face, to get back to the launch. It probably took us over 2 hours to do it and it was the hardest we ever had to work, but it beats ending up in TJ. *Add-on: we paddled our Fish n Dives using the original paddles that came with our Cobra package. Too short, bad design, and heavier than the Werner 2-piece ones we bought last year. On the plus note, Julie caught her 1st WSB (30+) in the south kelp area, and I managed to end the long day/paddle with a yellow (30+), once we passed the Condo. Just rewards, but made one helluva workout worthwhile __________________ "Never say die" Last edited by Aaron&Julie; 02-18-2011 at 07:30 PM.*

02-18-2011, 01:39 PM	#2
onetriphudson Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 143	Is there any attempted strategy for what to do besides paddle your ass off or just hold on tight?!? Not that many guys carry anchors, but would something like that help? What about jumping in the water to swim and just tow your kayak? Provided that you are in good shape and have a wetsuit on.

02-18-2011, 01:50 PM	#3
YakMedic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Wrightwood Posts: 623	Never forget we are at the mercy of the ocean. And those small craft advisory's are no joke.

02-18-2011, 02:13 PM	#5
Jimmyz123 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,385	I second what Jim said. Jumping in the water in, though it's not freezing out, will still cause major problems. I had the day off from work due to Pinkeye and thought about going out, that thought lasted about 2 minutes and then I remembered what the weather was suppose to be like. BE SMART people never paddle out if you don't feel that it's safe to do so.

02-18-2011, 02:19 PM	#6
onetriphudson Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 143	Swimming is not a good option, check! Thanks Jim! This guy had no choice... http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/ns...072314641.html Damn those aussies are tough!

02-18-2011, 03:13 PM	#9
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	BE SMART people never paddle out if you don't feel that it's safe to do so.[/QUOTE] Dude, thats the problem!!! most kayak people don't know what is safe and what is'nt...da Lets keep it real here.

02-18-2011, 03:14 PM	#10
YakMedic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Wrightwood Posts: 623	12 knots and 15 gusts isn't very significant. At least usually doesn't req a rescue.

02-18-2011, 03:23 PM	#12
m1k3midg3 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 108	there was one time where i didnt feel like it was safe to paddle out but did so anyways and it nearly got me killed but i do have to admit it was funner than hell and i would totally do it again. 15 foot waves are AWESOME to try to kayak surf. i had an anchor with me and i wiped out and the anchor line got wrapped round me but i was able to do untangle myself underwater.

02-18-2011, 03:24 PM	#13
mtnbykr2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: newbury park ca Posts: 2,323	I guess it depends on wether you are paddling or pedaling, but I have been caught in naaaasty off shores, scarrey but doable, and it will wear you down...again be aware of the weather...

02-18-2011, 04:24 PM	#15
bigbarrels Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vista Posts: 1,111	you would think those kayak rental companies would keep a good eye on the current and predicted conditions before taking their clueless customers out wonder if they charged extra for the extended tour of La Jolla?

02-18-2011, 05:02 PM	#17
YakMedic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Wrightwood Posts: 623	hay yakmedic, is it just me or is your kayak sitting low in the water in your avatar, passing wave?[/QUOTE] Both, I'm not a little guy, I have a xfactor now also so it rides higher.