Live from the BRTF meeting - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

PAL · 11-10-2009, 09:32 AM

I'm at the BRTF meeting. If you aren't, why not?

For those who couldn't make it or will be coming later, I am planning to cover it in real time via my Facebook page.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pr...61000&ref=name

You must be logged onto Facebook to see it. Anyone who can get on is welcome to copy and paste the posts here in this thread.

The portal for the live web stream of the meeting is http://www.cal-span.org/

Send us good vibes - we need them.

tylerdurden · 11-10-2009, 09:56 AM

Fasten your seatbelts, keep your hands and feet inside the vehicle at all times.

This is gonna be one hell of a ride.

I am sitting here in the room now and it's almost all fishermen. Nice work guys.

Ocean-Angler · 11-10-2009, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerdurden

Fasten your seatbelts, keep your hands and feet inside the vehicle at all times.

This is gonna be one hell of a ride.

I am sitting here in the room now and it's almost all fishermen. Nice work guys.

HELL YEA!!!!!
good job tyler
Good job all on all your efforts
Hopign some of the guys I emailed and posted about this on sportfisherman blodydecks etc showed.
sorry I couldt make it, I got no ride and im out here in Norco LOL

tylerdurden · 11-10-2009, 12:00 PM

Brtf is thinking about sparing pv, and in return Malibu gets thrown under the biggest bus possible.

LJ sucks. 4 is the only option they aren't considering. Gotta try and uncouple the scripps smca from those damn maps.

bender0240 · 11-10-2009, 12:47 PM

Shit. 3 at least seems infinitely better than the other 2. Hope they have mercy.

Ohana · 11-10-2009, 02:01 PM

Tyler:

Thanks for keeping us up to date on this.

I had planned to be there, but my companies sales group let go of some people in Southern California yesterday afternoon and I had to put together this morning a plan to prevent us from losing business they were calling on that used my product line.

Kevin

Iceman · 11-10-2009, 03:29 PM

Charles V was attacked this morning by this .............man

Gino · 11-10-2009, 03:40 PM

and who won!?

JoeBeck · 11-10-2009, 03:46 PM

Not Charles

dsafety · 11-10-2009, 03:46 PM

For those who are not following this thing on line, the BRTF is on a break until 3:45. When they return they will be hearing final comments on the motion submitted by one of the members that covers all the proposed closures. For San Diego, the one that has been proposed is Option 2, (not the former Map 2). After the comments, they plan to vote.

Option 2 is not the worst of the the proposed options but is still pretty bad. We get a slightly larger North La Jolla area but all of South La Jolla and a big chunk of North County is closed to fishing for eternity.

This is not yet a done deal but it is close.

Bob

DESTROYER · 11-10-2009, 03:49 PM

I've been listening to the Meeting while I input schedules and getting ready for tonights banquets. Talk about frustrating. Some of those people make no sense at all. I loved the question about "Good Kelp" and "Bad Kelp". I wish they would have answered it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for 2!

Tman · 11-10-2009, 03:54 PM

Aw $hit Charles...careful, they are known to have no spine...

Just got off the phone with Tyler, Meg is doing her 'let me talk and ramble and kill time so you fishermen don't have enough time to speak since I don't want to hear you anyway' rant...public speaking is just now getting underway according to Tyler.

Guys that made the trek,

...

I had to take the lad to school this morn, and if public speaking is just now going on I don't think I would've made it back in time to pick him up from after-school...and there was no way I could justify taking him out of school for this since he just had fall break.
Plus I think he has had enough of seeing this nonsense...

Otherwise I would've been there...I know, lame excuse...

Tman · 11-10-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsafety

Option 2 is not the worst of the the proposed options but is still pretty bad. We get a slightly larger North La Jolla area but all of South La Jolla and a big chunk of North County is closed to fishing for eternity.
Bob

Thanks for the update Bob...

Looks like Swamis is done, we can thank Surfwhiners for that. Wonder if they realize they could potentially close Swamis to all, even surfers?

Don't think it matters, half of them don't surf anyway, esp not that phookin' kook who spouted off...

Ocean-Angler · 11-10-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerdurden

Brtf is thinking about sparing pv, and in return Malibu gets thrown under the biggest bus possible.

LJ sucks. 4 is the only option they aren't considering. Gotta try and uncouple the scripps smca from those damn maps.

so basically, of all the options, on all subregions, they give us the one we want the least..
and of the region we fight for most, they give us our last choice
very fair.
yes.. yes very fair
damn

Wish I coulda made it.. dont know what difference it woulda made..
now that im not on parole, I coulda got in some lamo enviros face and waited for them to do something.. with not bad of reprocussions
eh
laim

dsafety · 11-10-2009, 04:20 PM

This just in! They have decided to remove the requirement that we only catch our bait at the pier by "dip net". I guess that means that Sabikis are now OK.

More to come.

Bob

dsafety · 11-10-2009, 04:36 PM

A guy from the DFG Warden's Assn. just got up and said that regardless of what comes out of this thing, they, (the game wardens), will not be able to inforce the regs. They do not have the staff to inforce the current regulations and call this thing a threat to their safety.

Interesting.

Bob

dos ballenas · 11-10-2009, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsafety

North County is closed to fishing for eternity.

Iceman · 11-10-2009, 05:06 PM

blue shirts are disgusted and appalled by the direction.......that is a good thing.

dsafety · 11-10-2009, 05:20 PM

Comments from the little people, (us), are being presented now. Those who support our point of view outnumber the others 3/1. I doubt the BRTF is listening, however. I suspect that their minds are already made up.

One guy raised the ADA card. This is important because many of the proposed closures eliminate access for the handicapped. If someone takes this issue to court, implementation could be delayed for years.

Any attorneys interested in taking this one on?

Bob

Ocean-Angler · 11-10-2009, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsafety

Comments from the little people, (us), are being presented now. Those who support our point of view outnumber the others 3/1. I doubt the BRTF is listening, however. I suspect that their minds are already made up.

One guy raised the ADA card. This is important because many of the proposed closures eliminate access for the handicapped. If someone takes this issue to court, implementation could be delayed for years.

Any attorneys interested in taking this one on?

Bob

thats a DAMN good point, and I saw the guy comment on that on the livepodcast!!!
there will be a MAJOR lawsuit if someone steps up on that....

11-10-2009, 09:32 AM	#1
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	Live from the BRTF meeting I'm at the BRTF meeting. If you aren't, why not? For those who couldn't make it or will be coming later, I am planning to cover it in real time via my Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pr...61000&ref=name You must be logged onto Facebook to see it. Anyone who can get on is welcome to copy and paste the posts here in this thread. The portal for the live web stream of the meeting is http://www.cal-span.org/ Send us good vibes - we need them.

11-10-2009, 09:56 AM	#2
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Fasten your seatbelts, keep your hands and feet inside the vehicle at all times. This is gonna be one hell of a ride. I am sitting here in the room now and it's almost all fishermen. Nice work guys. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

11-10-2009, 12:00 PM	#4
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Brtf is thinking about sparing pv, and in return Malibu gets thrown under the biggest bus possible. LJ sucks. 4 is the only option they aren't considering. Gotta try and uncouple the scripps smca from those damn maps. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

11-10-2009, 03:29 PM	#7
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,948	Charles V was attacked this morning by this .............man __________________

11-10-2009, 03:54 PM	#12
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Aw $hit Charles...careful, they are known to have no spine... Just got off the phone with Tyler, Meg is doing her 'let me talk and ramble and kill time so you fishermen don't have enough time to speak since I don't want to hear you anyway' rant...public speaking is just now getting underway according to Tyler. Guys that made the trek, ... I had to take the lad to school this morn, and if public speaking is just now going on I don't think I would've made it back in time to pick him up from after-school...and there was no way I could justify taking him out of school for this since he just had fall break. Plus I think he has had enough of seeing this nonsense... Otherwise I would've been there...I know, lame excuse... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

11-10-2009, 12:47 PM	#5
bender0240 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 118	Shit. 3 at least seems infinitely better than the other 2. Hope they have mercy.

11-10-2009, 02:01 PM	#6
Ohana Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Coto de Caza, CA Posts: 155	Tyler: Thanks for keeping us up to date on this. I had planned to be there, but my companies sales group let go of some people in Southern California yesterday afternoon and I had to put together this morning a plan to prevent us from losing business they were calling on that used my product line. Kevin

11-10-2009, 03:40 PM	#8
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 520	and who won!?

11-10-2009, 03:46 PM	#9
JoeBeck Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 370	Not Charles

11-10-2009, 03:46 PM	#10
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,121	For those who are not following this thing on line, the BRTF is on a break until 3:45. When they return they will be hearing final comments on the motion submitted by one of the members that covers all the proposed closures. For San Diego, the one that has been proposed is Option 2, (not the former Map 2). After the comments, they plan to vote. Option 2 is not the worst of the the proposed options but is still pretty bad. We get a slightly larger North La Jolla area but all of South La Jolla and a big chunk of North County is closed to fishing for eternity. This is not yet a done deal but it is close. Bob

11-10-2009, 03:49 PM	#11
DESTROYER Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "The Table" Posts: 976	I've been listening to the Meeting while I input schedules and getting ready for tonights banquets. Talk about frustrating. Some of those people make no sense at all. I loved the question about "Good Kelp" and "Bad Kelp". I wish they would have answered it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for 2!

11-10-2009, 04:20 PM	#15
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,121	This just in! They have decided to remove the requirement that we only catch our bait at the pier by "dip net". I guess that means that Sabikis are now OK. More to come. Bob

11-10-2009, 04:36 PM	#16
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,121	A guy from the DFG Warden's Assn. just got up and said that regardless of what comes out of this thing, they, (the game wardens), will not be able to inforce the regs. They do not have the staff to inforce the current regulations and call this thing a threat to their safety. Interesting. Bob

11-10-2009, 05:06 PM	#18
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,948	blue shirts are disgusted and appalled by the direction.......that is a good thing. __________________

11-10-2009, 05:20 PM	#19
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,121	Comments from the little people, (us), are being presented now. Those who support our point of view outnumber the others 3/1. I doubt the BRTF is listening, however. I suspect that their minds are already made up. One guy raised the ADA card. This is important because many of the proposed closures eliminate access for the handicapped. If someone takes this issue to court, implementation could be delayed for years. Any attorneys interested in taking this one on? Bob