Banning yaks in La Jolla - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Sherm · 10-29-2008, 08:54 AM

Has anyone read the article about the banning of yaks in La Jolla? It seems some lady got hit in the face and now they want to ban yaks. Has anyone got any up to date info on this?

lamb · 10-29-2008, 09:00 AM

A friend of mine called me about that...

http://www.10news.com/news/17828741/detail.html

If the impact was so hard, it is likely that the swimmer was in the launch area... Swimmers should not be allowed in the launch area.

I would say they should impose a ban on swimmers with titanium implants in their faces...

lamb · 10-29-2008, 09:01 AM

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont..._1m29swim.html

Oh great, what's next...

prowlerdude · 10-29-2008, 09:02 AM

Article in the UT, briefly saw it. Bunch of nonsense. People get hit with surf boards all the time. Sounded like a lot of the blame got put on the rentals but we will get lumped in. Suggesting times for kayaks etc... Its a designated boat ramp!

Im going to write some letters even if it blows over. We vote.

We take classes hone our skills and any tourist with $50 bucks can be an expert after a 10 minute lecture and put everything at risk.

Between Islandia being kicked out and the threat of a ban, I see fishermen as a non-wanted entity prior to the MLPA....

Matt · 10-29-2008, 09:15 AM

As a guy with a bunch of teeth implants and a partial titanium plate in his jaw line, please don't ban me!!

I feel sorry for the lady, but banning all kayaks is just lame it is a launch area, and people are constantly walking across the launch ramp which is I believe technically a road, so therefore shouldn't all driving laws be enforced? and isn't jaywalking a crime? I also don't believe you are allowed to swim in a launch area, so shouldn't the lifeguards enforce the no swimming rule also??? I still plan on launching tomorrow though

Sherm · 10-29-2008, 09:20 AM

Sounds like this lady was accident proned. She already had a plate in her head. The rental yaks are a problem. trying to weve between them when coming in in the summer is a mojor pain the rump. But with that said........why was she swimming in the launch zone? She should have not been there.

Dan · 10-29-2008, 09:24 AM

nonsense.

Iceman · 10-29-2008, 09:43 AM

It sounds to me that they will just be a little more strict about keeping the launch area and the swim area better defined.......read between the sensational journalism

Tman · 10-29-2008, 10:01 AM

Let's see...she was swimming in the boat launch zone

She should be fined.

In my investigative research, I found out that her previous head injury came when she tried to cross Town Hall Square in Spain...during the running of the bulls...

Then she tried to sue the bull, who proceeded to take a dump on her...because he thought her claim was bullsh!t...

Sherm · 10-29-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

It sounds to me that they will just be a little more strict about keeping the launch area and the swim area better defined.......read between the sensational journalism

I hope so Andy. My experience is that government will overreact.

dorf · 10-29-2008, 10:31 AM

Another example of the pussification of America.

One person gets injured in an accident and the lawyers get involved to ban an activity.

I am confused though. It says that she was swimming in front of the Marine room. The map attached to the article shows that the area is a swim zone. If that whole are is a swim zone then the kayaker was at fault. The picture also shows the buoys, which I thought was a safe launch area for the hotel kayaks. What are the buoys for if not for a safe launch area?

As for me I launch and land at Avenida de la Playa and stay way clear of any rentals as well as swimmers. They usually have more fun on then brain than safety and common sense.

Jim Sammons LJKF · 10-29-2008, 10:35 AM

Not to take her side in any fashion, but it keeps coming up that she was swimming in the launch area and I don't see that anywhere. Sounds more like she was swimming in front of the marine room. Which historically has been a kayak surf spot though I don't know if it is actually listed that way. I often see people swimming there looking at the sharks among the kayaks surfing. Of course swimming in the surf zone and not having a clue what is going on around you can be blamed on her.

esdees · 10-29-2008, 10:50 AM

There are two sets of buoys. There are the small yellow ones that are roped together to section off the swim zone. They mark the smaller area on the map. Then there are the white ones that I believe indicate a 5 mph (or is it "no boat"?) zone that is larger.

If she wasn't at the launch, then the kayaker(s) should be blamed. It's hard to believe that this damage could happen in open water, so it must have been in the surf.

One incident, with one swimmer and one kayak... maybe we should be safe and not allow either to use the water at any time.

Iceman · 10-29-2008, 10:50 AM

In front of the Marine Room is a very popular spot to check out the leapards and shovel nose in the end of the summer, I have heard the tours stating that they were going there and have seen big groups in that area. The article states Ave Playa south as a designated swim zone, nothing about the launch area.

Rusty · 10-29-2008, 11:28 AM

Sweet... Can't wait to see whats next.

tylerdurden · 10-29-2008, 12:23 PM

People should actually read the article before the pitchforks come out. Let's all get pissed off about misinformation

. Did anyone actually read the UT article before commenting on the situation or would that be too much to ask?

Quote:

She was swimming off the Marine Room restaurant in La Jolla Shores

Seems like they want to keep kayaks out of the swim zone south of ave de la playa. Sounds fair to me. As long as the swimmers stay out of the boat area. They don't mention closing the boat ramp, just keeping kayaks off the beach south. On a side note they are trying to limit the number of rental business operations which I like too.

dorf · 10-29-2008, 01:35 PM

Another Question:
Where does the public swim zone start to the north of the launch?
The map shows the area in front of the Hotel but not the actual public beach area. In other words how wide is the launch zone?
Just wondering.

Zed · 10-29-2008, 02:37 PM

FWIW Ch8 SD was at the launch this morning [well noon] doing cheezy cut pieces about kayaks there. I was breaking down my stuff so I wasn't listening really, but I did hear some. I swear he sounded like Huell Howser.
"OK, lets do that again." to the cameraman as he retraces his steps and checks his cue card to do the 3 sentence piece again.

They interviewed at least 2 tourist kayakers. For some reason they didn't want anything to do with the fishing kayaks. They purposefully walked around me and my yak to not get it in the shot. Must have been the OC stinkeye I gave them.

Oh, btw, WFO fog launch and landing so that newspiece is going to be real worthy, Ch8. Lots of lost folks in the fog. Even USCG was looking for a lost blowboat on 16.

dorado50 · 10-29-2008, 03:09 PM

With all this hysteria and misinformation I am now convinced that today is the first day of my life.....or is the world coming to an end...not sure

prowlerdude · 10-29-2008, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerdurden

People should actually read the article before the pitchforks come out. Let's all get pissed off about misinformation

.

Kill joy

10-29-2008, 08:54 AM	#1
Sherm Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 490	Banning yaks in La Jolla Has anyone read the article about the banning of yaks in La Jolla? It seems some lady got hit in the face and now they want to ban yaks. Has anyone got any up to date info on this?

10-29-2008, 09:00 AM	#2
lamb Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,568	A friend of mine called me about that... http://www.10news.com/news/17828741/detail.html If the impact was so hard, it is likely that the swimmer was in the launch area... Swimmers should not be allowed in the launch area. I would say they should impose a ban on swimmers with titanium implants in their faces... __________________ [------------------------ <)))< ....b-a-a-a-a

10-29-2008, 09:01 AM	#3
lamb Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,568	http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont..._1m29swim.html Oh great, what's next... __________________ [------------------------ <)))< ....b-a-a-a-a

10-29-2008, 09:15 AM	#5
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	As a guy with a bunch of teeth implants and a partial titanium plate in his jaw line, please don't ban me!! I feel sorry for the lady, but banning all kayaks is just lame it is a launch area, and people are constantly walking across the launch ramp which is I believe technically a road, so therefore shouldn't all driving laws be enforced? and isn't jaywalking a crime? I also don't believe you are allowed to swim in a launch area, so shouldn't the lifeguards enforce the no swimming rule also??? I still plan on launching tomorrow though __________________ Thanks Matt F. Last edited by Matt; 10-29-2008 at 09:46 AM.

10-29-2008, 09:43 AM	#8
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,948	It sounds to me that they will just be a little more strict about keeping the launch area and the swim area better defined.......read between the sensational journalism __________________

10-29-2008, 09:02 AM	#4
prowlerdude Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Clairemont Posts: 116	Article in the UT, briefly saw it. Bunch of nonsense. People get hit with surf boards all the time. Sounded like a lot of the blame got put on the rentals but we will get lumped in. Suggesting times for kayaks etc... Its a designated boat ramp! Im going to write some letters even if it blows over. We vote. We take classes hone our skills and any tourist with $50 bucks can be an expert after a 10 minute lecture and put everything at risk. Between Islandia being kicked out and the threat of a ban, I see fishermen as a non-wanted entity prior to the MLPA....

10-29-2008, 09:20 AM	#6
Sherm Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 490	Sounds like this lady was accident proned. She already had a plate in her head. The rental yaks are a problem. trying to weve between them when coming in in the summer is a mojor pain the rump. But with that said........why was she swimming in the launch zone? She should have not been there.

10-29-2008, 09:24 AM	#7
Dan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,053	nonsense.

10-29-2008, 10:01 AM	#9
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Let's see...she was swimming in the boat launch zone She should be fined. In my investigative research, I found out that her previous head injury came when she tried to cross Town Hall Square in Spain...during the running of the bulls... Then she tried to sue the bull, who proceeded to take a dump on her...because he thought her claim was bullsh!t... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

10-29-2008, 10:35 AM	#12
Jim Sammons LJKF Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 947	Not to take her side in any fashion, but it keeps coming up that she was swimming in the launch area and I don't see that anywhere. Sounds more like she was swimming in front of the marine room. Which historically has been a kayak surf spot though I don't know if it is actually listed that way. I often see people swimming there looking at the sharks among the kayaks surfing. Of course swimming in the surf zone and not having a clue what is going on around you can be blamed on her. __________________ Jim Sammons La Jolla Kayak Fishing The Kayak Fishing Show JimSammons.com

10-29-2008, 10:50 AM	#13
esdees The Good Clone Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Clairemont Posts: 520	There are two sets of buoys. There are the small yellow ones that are roped together to section off the swim zone. They mark the smaller area on the map. Then there are the white ones that I believe indicate a 5 mph (or is it "no boat"?) zone that is larger. If she wasn't at the launch, then the kayaker(s) should be blamed. It's hard to believe that this damage could happen in open water, so it must have been in the surf. One incident, with one swimmer and one kayak... maybe we should be safe and not allow either to use the water at any time.

10-29-2008, 11:28 AM	#15
Rusty Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: LJ Posts: 201	Sweet... Can't wait to see whats next. Last edited by Rusty; 10-29-2008 at 12:28 PM. Reason: take a deep breath...

10-29-2008, 01:35 PM	#17
dorf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 279	Another Question: Where does the public swim zone start to the north of the launch? The map shows the area in front of the Hotel but not the actual public beach area. In other words how wide is the launch zone? Just wondering. __________________ Don't try to confuse me with facts! I hereby reject your reality and submit my own.

10-29-2008, 02:37 PM	#18
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	FWIW Ch8 SD was at the launch this morning [well noon] doing cheezy cut pieces about kayaks there. I was breaking down my stuff so I wasn't listening really, but I did hear some. I swear he sounded like Huell Howser. "OK, lets do that again." to the cameraman as he retraces his steps and checks his cue card to do the 3 sentence piece again. They interviewed at least 2 tourist kayakers. For some reason they didn't want anything to do with the fishing kayaks. They purposefully walked around me and my yak to not get it in the shot. Must have been the OC stinkeye I gave them. Oh, btw, WFO fog launch and landing so that newspiece is going to be real worthy, Ch8. Lots of lost folks in the fog. Even USCG was looking for a lost blowboat on 16.

10-29-2008, 03:09 PM	#19
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	With all this hysteria and misinformation I am now convinced that today is the first day of my life.....or is the world coming to an end...not sure