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09-15-2020, 12:47 PM | #1 |
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Battery PSA
Maybe I just have a penchant for outing myself as a putz
In case it benefits someone else... I was headed north on a camping trip with my kayak, and had my SLA 12v batteries (main plus spare) in a milk crate with all of my kayak repair stuff and other odds and ends. As we got to the camp site, I was sorting stuff in back of my truck, and pushed a mesh bag with a chain stringer in it down into the crate... Almost immediately smelled smoke, and had a flame flare up in front of me. In a matter of seconds, the chain had shorted out the battery terminals, and turned itself into a soldering iron, setting my mesh bag on fire. I'm just lucky it hadn't happened while I was driving and not right in front of me. Was a nice harmless lesson in keeping my terminals covered. |
09-15-2020, 07:32 PM | #2 |
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Whoa glad you caught it. Been putting off epoxying my SLA battery terminals. Might have to bump that up the to-do list.
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09-15-2020, 08:35 PM | #3 |
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That's just unfortunate. Not even putzy. Also, really more of an arc welder than a soldering iron!
I've never had this problem because my batteries live permanently in watertight boxes with their terminals attached to two-prong connectors that mate with the 6v and 12v chargers. Everything uses the same two-prong, and the battery never leaves the box. Less chance to bust a flimsy little terminal that way...or accidentally weld your stringer together lol. |
09-15-2020, 08:59 PM | #4 |
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if you switch to LiPo you have to be even more careful, they can go off in a white hot fire. I had a damaged battery that I had cut the connector off but didn't tape the ends of the wires and it shorted out in my truck bed. It was right next to a can of gas but luckily nothing bad happened but it could have been a very bad situation, every year one of my fellow radio control airplane fliers has a LiPo battery burn down their house or burn up their car because the put it away damaged unaware of the chemical reaction going off inside the battery. This was a 3 cell, 12 volt battery. I posted a picture of it in the Ryobi FF battery post
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09-16-2020, 10:18 AM | #5 |
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Thanks for sharing your experience
Sucks starting a trip off that way, or even ending one under those conditions for that matter. Fortunately, no real loss of life or limb other than the battery and your mesh bag. If you need a loaner battery, let me know.
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09-16-2020, 02:32 PM | #6 |
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One of the benefits of the sealed LiFePo4 batteries is they come with smart circuit boards that shut them down in the case of over discharge (among lots of other things).
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09-16-2020, 03:15 PM | #7 |
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Short circuit
Does this make them any less dangerous if the above situation had occurred? What about if the hull of the kayak was flooded with water and shorted the terminals? Would you have multiple problems to contend with such as a battery fire?
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