Kayak recommendation - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Cbs49er · 08-09-2020, 09:26 PM

So I had a pelican catch 100 I just sold and I really want a pedal drive for trout trolling and something I can take offshore. I really want to get into ocean fishing but somewhat on budget. I was looking at the old town salty 120 or do you guys recommend going the used route? Would really prefer to stay around 1500.

deptrai · 08-10-2020, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbs49er

So I had a pelican catch 100 I just sold and I really want a pedal drive for trout trolling and something I can take offshore. I really want to get into ocean fishing but somewhat on budget. I was looking at the old town salty 120 or do you guys recommend going the used route? Would really prefer to stay around 1500.

If you want a pedal drive for around $1,500, I think used is your only option.

FullFlavorPike · 08-10-2020, 05:08 PM

Do you mean "offshore" in the real sense of "heading way offshore to look for some of those tuna I hear so much about" or do you mean just fishing in the ocean out to like 150' of water (which is more appropriately within the realm of "inshore" fishing)?

Salty · 08-10-2020, 07:10 PM

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If you want a pedal drive for around $1,500, I think used is your only option.

If you want a pedal drive and you're willing to step up the budget a little bit, you can get a new Hobie Passport 12 for around $1,600. That's what I have because my budget was about the same. OEX helped nudge me that way because I was initially looking at a used Malibu (without pedals). Told them I was planning on doing lots of fishing and I'm 100% glad they recommended the Passport! An Outback or Compass was out of the budget, but this Passport has been getting me in the water pretty comfortably almost every week since I've had it.

Cbs49er · 08-10-2020, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FullFlavorPike

Do you mean "offshore" in the real sense of "heading way offshore to look for some of those tuna I hear so much about" or do you mean just fishing in the ocean out to like 150' of water (which is more appropriately within the realm of "inshore" fishing)?

Both, would love to do offshore for tuna when aI get more experience. I just don't want to keep on upgrading.

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If you want a pedal drive and you're willing to step up the budget a little bit, you can get a new Hobie Passport 12 for around $1,600. That's what I have because my budget was about the same. OEX helped nudge me that way because I was initially looking at a used Malibu (without pedals). Told them I was planning on doing lots of fishing and I'm 100% glad they recommended the Passport! An Outback or Compass was out of the budget, but this Passport has been getting me in the water pretty comfortably almost every week since I've had it.

I've been seriously looking at that or for 200 more the old town salty 120.

StrikerMC · 08-10-2020, 09:45 PM

Hey, there's a ton of nice new pedal drive kayaks out on the market between 1300-1800 bucks. Take a look at lightning kayaks, vibe shearwater with pedal drive, pelican catch hd2, etc. Go to a kayak store with those in stock and take a look!

By the way- If you stretch your budget to around 1900-2000 your options open up a lot. Hobie is just one of the many pedal drive brands on the market that are all great. No need to buy something 5 years old when you can get something new (with a warranty too)

Cbs49er · 08-10-2020, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StrikerMC

Hey, there's a ton of nice new pedal drive kayaks out on the market between 1300-1800 bucks. Take a look at lightning kayaks, vibe shearwater with pedal drive, pelican catch hd2, etc. Go to a kayak store with those in stock and take a look!

By the way- If you stretch your budget to around 1900-2000 your options open up a lot. Hobie is just one of the many pedal drive brands on the market that are all great. No need to buy something 5 years old when you can get something new (with a warranty too)

Thx, I think I've seen every kayak video on YouTube. Theres just so many out there now and it just has me wondering which pedal drives will last a long time and how customer service is from these newer companies. Definitely will look for a kayak shop since I don't know of any in the LA area.

SoCalEDC · 08-11-2020, 08:09 AM

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Thx, I think I've seen every kayak video on YouTube. Theres just so many out there now and it just has me wondering which pedal drives will last a long time and how customer service is from these newer companies. Definitely will look for a kayak shop since I don't know of any in the LA area.

I'm with Mike, above. If you can get something new with a warranty you won't be sorry, even if it cost a few bucks more. Try a few of the different drive types, and if you are looking primarily to troll, don't rule out long narrow paddle kayaks like the 15 foot versions of the kraken, trident, etc., although those are probably not well suited for smaller bodies of water.

FullFlavorPike · 08-11-2020, 11:30 AM

Your cheapest bet for an offshore capable kayak is an older OK Prowler 15 with a good seat and a nice paddle. If you are on a hardcore budget, that's a hell of a fishing vessel for the money.

Saba Slayer · 08-11-2020, 11:30 AM

Support this site and call Andy at OEX in Sunset Beach...
He is a Hobie dealer and the OEX store also represents a few other kayak manufacturers...he’s on the water on PCH if you want to try a kayak and he’s a great fisherman too...!
(562) 592-0800

Salty · 08-11-2020, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Saba Slayer

Support this site and call Andy at OEX in Sunset Beach...
He is a Hobie dealer and the OEX store also represents a few other kayak manufacturers...he’s on the water on PCH if you want to try a kayak and he’s a great fisherman too...!
(562) 592-0800

I second this. Andy was the one that recommended I try out the Passport before going with the used kayak package. He let me ride the demo around on the water next to the shop for a bit and that sold me. It was not an up-sell, it was 100% honest advise. Never regretted spending the extra couple hundred in the slightest. I know eventually I will want to upgrade to an Outback, so when I'm ready to pull the trigger, I'll be going back to Andy! Definitely worth the drive from LA if that's where you are.

Cbs49er · 08-11-2020, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Saba Slayer

Support this site and call Andy at OEX in Sunset Beach...
He is a Hobie dealer and the OEX store also represents a few other kayak manufacturers...he’s on the water on PCH if you want to try a kayak and he’s a great fisherman too...!
(562) 592-0800

Will do, when it comes to anything fishing I'll drive anywhere.

surfshotmoto · 08-11-2020, 08:29 PM

I don’t believe in buying a new kayak or car. Kayak’s are made of polyethylene. There is no easier material in the world to fix then this. Heat it, move it where you want, let it cool. If you take your time you will barely notice a repair was done. You can fix a big hole or small crack. These are plastic tubs that fix super easy and very quickly. There is not much you can do to a kayak that can’t be fixed.

With that said, the new showroom pricing is ridiculous. You can by a use yak for a fraction of new. There are plenty on Craigslist in your budget. Look it over. You can easily tell if it’s beat up. There is little to no risk in buying a used kayak. Companies say there molded plastic boat is better than others but really there all just plastics tub’s made of the same exact material. Some designs work a little better than other but all in all, the tried and true that have been around for 20 years are all making very, very similar boats.

The hardware used on the kayak is important. Buy Hobie. It’s proven to last a very, very long time. The hardware is superior in build quality. Also any part on any Hobie can be replaced when worn out. It can also be upgraded. I have a blue ten year old Hobie Outback I would consider selling. I bought it for my wife and she never uses it. It’s in very solid condition. $1,200.

I also have a ten your old Pro Angler 14. I will never sell that one. If your going to do lake and ocean get the Outback. It’s easier to hall around and can car top. If your strictly ocean like me, get the Pro Angler.

Both are large ocean worthy kayaks that are the best in the ocean. They are stable platforms you can buy used, use for ten year and sell for what you paid for them. You really can’t go wrong.

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FullFlavorPike · 08-12-2020, 01:54 PM

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With that said, the new showroom pricing is ridiculous. ...

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The money is in the valuable IP and the upfront costs of developing molds, etc. If they were easy to make cheap, more people would do it.

ShugaShane562 · 08-13-2020, 09:45 PM

I just bought a Lightning Strike Kayak from Long Beach Windsurf and Kayak center. It’s a 12’6” pedal drive. Super stable. Love the platform. There’s a few reviews about water getting on deck excessively but the dude was like 300. It’s rated for 415 but whatever. I’m 235 6’ tall and I’m loving it. Check em out

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SoCalEDC · 08-14-2020, 10:23 AM

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I just bought a Lightning Strike Kayak from Long Beach Windsurf and Kayak center. It’s a 12’6” pedal drive. Super stable. Love the platform. There’s a few reviews about water getting on deck excessively but the dude was like 300. It’s rated for 415 but whatever. I’m 235 6’ tall and I’m loving it. Check em out

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The hull design on these looks pretty bitchin'.

ShugaShane562 · 08-14-2020, 10:52 AM

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The hull design on these looks pretty bitchin'.

Yeah the cathedral Hull is very stable. I’m digging it. My buddy has the outback and he really enjoys my lightning when he tried it

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Cbs49er · 08-14-2020, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ShugaShane562

I just bought a Lightning Strike Kayak from Long Beach Windsurf and Kayak center. It’s a 12’6” pedal drive. Super stable. Love the platform. There’s a few reviews about water getting on deck excessively but the dude was like 300. It’s rated for 415 but whatever. I’m 235 6’ tall and I’m loving it. Check em out

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I was interested in it until I saw the guy you mentioned review and how bad the customer service was.

ShugaShane562 · 08-14-2020, 06:13 PM

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I was interested in it until I saw the guy you mentioned review and how bad the customer service was.

Yeah I saw it too. Luckily I haven’t had to call them for anything. But yeah it’s not cool what they did to him. I would have been pissed. I’m just crossing my fingers nothing major happens haha

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ProfessorLongArms · 08-14-2020, 09:34 PM

+1 on Andy. He’s never steered me wrong, and I rely on him for good advice regularly.

08-09-2020, 09:26 PM	#1
Cbs49er Junior Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: LA Posts: 20	Kayak recommendation So I had a pelican catch 100 I just sold and I really want a pedal drive for trout trolling and something I can take offshore. I really want to get into ocean fishing but somewhat on budget. I was looking at the old town salty 120 or do you guys recommend going the used route? Would really prefer to stay around 1500.

08-11-2020, 11:30 AM	#10
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,855	Call Andy Support this site and call Andy at OEX in Sunset Beach... He is a Hobie dealer and the OEX store also represents a few other kayak manufacturers...he’s on the water on PCH if you want to try a kayak and he’s a great fisherman too...! (562) 592-0800 __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

08-10-2020, 05:08 PM	#3
FullFlavorPike Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 809	Do you mean "offshore" in the real sense of "heading way offshore to look for some of those tuna I hear so much about" or do you mean just fishing in the ocean out to like 150' of water (which is more appropriately within the realm of "inshore" fishing)?

08-10-2020, 09:45 PM	#6
StrikerMC Instagram:@nomad.waterman Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Newport Coast Posts: 60	Hey, there's a ton of nice new pedal drive kayaks out on the market between 1300-1800 bucks. Take a look at lightning kayaks, vibe shearwater with pedal drive, pelican catch hd2, etc. Go to a kayak store with those in stock and take a look! By the way- If you stretch your budget to around 1900-2000 your options open up a lot. Hobie is just one of the many pedal drive brands on the market that are all great. No need to buy something 5 years old when you can get something new (with a warranty too)

08-11-2020, 08:29 PM	#13
surfshotmoto Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 41	I don’t believe in buying a new kayak or car. Kayak’s are made of polyethylene. There is no easier material in the world to fix then this. Heat it, move it where you want, let it cool. If you take your time you will barely notice a repair was done. You can fix a big hole or small crack. These are plastic tubs that fix super easy and very quickly. There is not much you can do to a kayak that can’t be fixed. With that said, the new showroom pricing is ridiculous. You can by a use yak for a fraction of new. There are plenty on Craigslist in your budget. Look it over. You can easily tell if it’s beat up. There is little to no risk in buying a used kayak. Companies say there molded plastic boat is better than others but really there all just plastics tub’s made of the same exact material. Some designs work a little better than other but all in all, the tried and true that have been around for 20 years are all making very, very similar boats. The hardware used on the kayak is important. Buy Hobie. It’s proven to last a very, very long time. The hardware is superior in build quality. Also any part on any Hobie can be replaced when worn out. It can also be upgraded. I have a blue ten year old Hobie Outback I would consider selling. I bought it for my wife and she never uses it. It’s in very solid condition. $1,200. I also have a ten your old Pro Angler 14. I will never sell that one. If your going to do lake and ocean get the Outback. It’s easier to hall around and can car top. If your strictly ocean like me, get the Pro Angler. Both are large ocean worthy kayaks that are the best in the ocean. They are stable platforms you can buy used, use for ten year and sell for what you paid for them. You really can’t go wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-13-2020, 09:45 PM	#15
ShugaShane562 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Long Beach Posts: 112	I just bought a Lightning Strike Kayak from Long Beach Windsurf and Kayak center. It’s a 12’6” pedal drive. Super stable. Love the platform. There’s a few reviews about water getting on deck excessively but the dude was like 300. It’s rated for 415 but whatever. I’m 235 6’ tall and I’m loving it. Check em out Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-14-2020, 09:34 PM	#20
ProfessorLongArms Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 401	+1 on Andy. He’s never steered me wrong, and I rely on him for good advice regularly.