Not so GWS - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

GregAndrew · 03-01-2018, 04:35 PM

Thought I was marking a real nice WSB down by my downrigger setup, but that was not what it was. Moved 1/4 mile and 60 feet deeper and the same one, or another, came to visit.

Dirty Curti · 03-01-2018, 04:43 PM

YIKES!

Saba Slayer · 03-01-2018, 04:55 PM

With that black nose...is it a Mako?

Ggiannig89 · 03-01-2018, 06:19 PM

Pretty cool video. I’m guessing it was attracted to the electromagnetic pulses of the camera. I wonder why it never even gave your bait a whiff.
Did you notice rod tip move at all while it would swim through your line?

SDROB · 03-01-2018, 06:23 PM

It looks like he was smiling for the camera. He was definitely very curios about it.

GregAndrew · 03-01-2018, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Saba Slayer

With that black nose...is it a Mako?

I am no expert, but I am guessing GWS. Snout not as narrow, shoulders big and the dorsal begins above the pectoral.

GregAndrew · 03-01-2018, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ggiannig89

Pretty cool video. I’m guessing it was attracted to the electromagnetic pulses of the camera. I wonder why it never even gave your bait a whiff.
Did you notice rod tip move at all while it would swim through your line?

IDK why it never bit on camera. The first bait looked like it got bit, but it was not on the 13 minutes of video leading up to the sighting. Only time my line or downrigger line moved was when the shark was swimming through them.

TheBentRod · 03-01-2018, 08:58 PM

Thanks for the post Greg!

dpricenator · 03-02-2018, 07:25 AM

Well that'll be tougher to put in the back of my mind.

I always said that I don't believe in sharks. After all, I've been surfing and diving the orange county coast, for 25 years and have never seen one, so they must not exist. Now that you have disproven that, I'm going to have to take up golf or lawn bowling or something.

sharjak · 03-02-2018, 09:38 AM

Looks like a curious juvenile GWS

DanaYakAngler · 03-02-2018, 02:57 PM

Where was this?

ful-rac · 03-02-2018, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaYakAngler

Where was this?

That's what's happening underneath your kayak while your not looking just so you know....

!

Dannowar · 03-02-2018, 03:42 PM

I can just imagine reviewing this footage...feet up....having a beer....then BAM...GWS. woulda startled the eff outta me. sick

ful-rac · 03-02-2018, 03:45 PM

PapaDave · 03-07-2018, 07:29 AM

Check the teeth... Long and narrow.... Mako

GWS have wide teeth.

Saba Slayer · 03-07-2018, 07:35 AM

Sorry PapaDave but I think I'll leave it up to you to check the teeth...LOL...!

GregAndrew · 03-07-2018, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PapaDave

Check the teeth... Long and narrow.... Mako

GWS have wide teeth.

Juvenile GWS have teeth almost exactly like Mako sharks. The only difference is that there are serrations on the edges of GWS teeth. They are also pointed back into the throat like a Mako as juveniles. They only develop the broader triangular shape teeth when they are reaching lengths into the double digits. That is also when they start to feed on mammals.

Fiskadoro · 03-08-2018, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Saba Slayer

With that black nose...is it a Mako?

Looks like a white, just a pup. The main difference is body mass and the pectoral fins. Note the black areas on the ends of the pec fins.

A mako's fins should be shorter, more rounded, and though I suppose it is possible I have never seen that exact marking on the underside a mako's pec fin.

Fiskadoro · 03-08-2018, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew

Thought I was marking a real nice WSB down by my downrigger setup, but that was not what it was. Moved 1/4 mile and 60 feet deeper and the same one, or another, came to visit.

Nice!!! Those sharks are all over the bay, but you Greg are the first one I've heard of that actually got one on underwater on camera. It always surprises me that we never hook them. Very selective feeders. Actually whites are just specialized Makos that evolved to take advantage of the marine mammal explosion. Certainly the small ones feed on fish but they are still very selective about what they feed on which is why we almost never hook them on bait or trolling for T-sharks.

ful-rac · 03-08-2018, 11:49 AM

We have seen a good amount of white shark activity around the bay, just within the last couple of years. Jorge actually hooked one last year and took a short sleigh ride before he got bit off. This is not actually the first white shark greg has caught on video recently. We have seen them on the surface as well, along with lots and lots of makos...really an unusualy high number of makos.

Whether or not you guys realize it...they are down there. It's probably better you guys don't realize it...and just ignore the fact....and keep on fishin'!

03-01-2018, 04:35 PM	#1
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	Not so GWS Thought I was marking a real nice WSB down by my downrigger setup, but that was not what it was. Moved 1/4 mile and 60 feet deeper and the same one, or another, came to visit.

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Dirty Curti Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 419	YIKES! __________________

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Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,857	Mako With that black nose...is it a Mako? __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

03-01-2018, 06:23 PM	#5
SDROB Malibu Stealth 12 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Hollywood, San Diego, Gonzaga Bay Posts: 512	It looks like he was smiling for the camera. He was definitely very curios about it. __________________ She will keep you warm in the winter and give you shade in the summer (Rossman) I'm telling ya, you have to keep these suckers on a game clip until just before you drop them in the frying pan.(Rossman)

03-02-2018, 03:42 PM	#13
Dannowar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,823	I can just imagine reviewing this footage...feet up....having a beer....then BAM...GWS. woulda startled the eff outta me. sick __________________ "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once and you’ll suck forever." — Brian Wilson

03-01-2018, 06:19 PM	#4
Ggiannig89 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: El Cajon Posts: 512	Pretty cool video. I’m guessing it was attracted to the electromagnetic pulses of the camera. I wonder why it never even gave your bait a whiff. Did you notice rod tip move at all while it would swim through your line?

03-01-2018, 08:58 PM	#8
TheBentRod Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Murrieta, CA and Bonney Lake, WA Posts: 425	Thanks for the post Greg!

03-02-2018, 07:25 AM	#9
dpricenator Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: South OC Posts: 120	Well that'll be tougher to put in the back of my mind. I always said that I don't believe in sharks. After all, I've been surfing and diving the orange county coast, for 25 years and have never seen one, so they must not exist. Now that you have disproven that, I'm going to have to take up golf or lawn bowling or something.

03-02-2018, 09:38 AM	#10
sharjak Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South OC Posts: 102	Looks like a curious juvenile GWS

03-02-2018, 02:57 PM	#11
DanaYakAngler Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: RSM, Ca. Posts: 113	Where was this?

03-02-2018, 03:45 PM	#14
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	__________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

03-07-2018, 07:29 AM	#15
PapaDave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 1,473	Check the teeth... Long and narrow.... Mako GWS have wide teeth. __________________ So long and thanks for all the fish...

03-07-2018, 07:35 AM	#16
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,857	teeth Sorry PapaDave but I think I'll leave it up to you to check the teeth...LOL...! __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

03-08-2018, 11:49 AM	#20
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	We have seen a good amount of white shark activity around the bay, just within the last couple of years. Jorge actually hooked one last year and took a short sleigh ride before he got bit off. This is not actually the first white shark greg has caught on video recently. We have seen them on the surface as well, along with lots and lots of makos...really an unusualy high number of makos. Whether or not you guys realize it...they are down there. It's probably better you guys don't realize it...and just ignore the fact....and keep on fishin'! __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.