Rescue boat stole my hoop net - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

wiredantz · 10-04-2014, 01:04 AM

Was out at Santa Monica bay , Relocating my traps rescue boat pulls up about half a mile ask the boat and divers who's is the hoop net they don't claim so they take off with it..... It just finished checking it......... Anyone know who I contact to get it back?

ceruleandrms · 10-04-2014, 03:17 AM

That sucks! Sorry to hear that!

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wiredantz · 10-04-2014, 06:18 AM

Kayakers told me they picked up about 7 yesterday because people leave them in attended, I'm supposed to get 2 hours !!! That's messed up

Saba Slayer · 10-04-2014, 07:17 AM

If you were hooping the Redondo Breakwall the HARBOR PATROL NAZIS got your gear and you can call them and usually get it back.
R.B. Harbor Patrol (310) 318-0632
I've had numerous run-ins with them about the 2 hour soak time...They claim that their sphere of influence or ability to regulate as they like, is anywhere close to the harbor. It's a real conundrum because there are no written rules in the Redondo City charter about hoop netting regulations...the SOB's feel that they can make up whatever regulations they like. I not sure how to handle this, since having the city write up some new hooping regs could only open up a Pandora's box of potential problems.
I was hooping for crab about a mile or more from the mouth of the harbor and fishing about another mile away from my nets when they rolled up on my gear. I hightailed it over there and ID'd my gear and they said that I needed to be in attendance of my nets...I said I was and read them the DFW 2 hour reg. and gave them a copy of my book with the regs explained in simple language so that even a Harbor Patrol duffus could understand them.
When you retrieve your gear, please ask them to explain their homemade regulations and please get back to us with some new info.
Please let them know that you think it's unfair to the kayakers to punish them for not being able to power over to your gear immediately as a power boater could.
Good Luck

pbb · 10-04-2014, 08:46 AM

I don't think they need anything in the Redondo City Charter, as the DFG regs say: "Any hoop net abandoned or left unchecked for more than 2 hours may be considered abandoned and may be seized by any person authorized to enforce these regulations."

The question is whether they are are authorized. It might be most productive to try to have a conversation with DFG about whether they are authorized, and if they are that they need more training (or at least a reminder) that the regs say they need to be checked every two hours, not that they need to constantly "attended." Since the regs allow you 5, you can't sit on top of all of them.

But if they are going to be overzealous, what about doing something like putting a tag on the float that you can mark the last time you checked (or maybe your cell number if you have reception on the water). Like cutting a diver's slate into smaller tags? Although you shouldn't have to, seems like it might save some headaches.

wiredantz · 10-04-2014, 09:22 AM

I called redondo harbor patrol and they have it and picked it up. They said I need to be within a flash light view of my buoys because boats can run over them and crash on the rocks.... They said they don't want buoys left unattended ...... He said they will always leave them at their dock if they take them. I didn't want to argue with them so early in the morning...

I had mines placed about half a mile off the rocks .

Saba Slayer · 10-04-2014, 11:43 AM

WTF is "within a flashlight view" ...?
And the next Harbor Patrol guy will give you another answer...?
Bunch of Bozos...!

jorluivil · 10-04-2014, 01:23 PM

They're always making shit up as they go, that's why I tend to stay away from that area.

bus kid · 10-04-2014, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saba Slayer

WTF is "within a flashlight view" ...?
And the next Harbor Patrol guy will give you another answer...?
Bunch of Bozos...!

Get a 1000 lumen cree, I can see mine from at least a mile away!

http://www.amazon.com/MECO-1000-Lume.../dp/B0079EP0KK

taggermike · 10-05-2014, 12:20 PM

Lets cut the BS and nonsense. Are these guys just stealing bugs?

This was a while ago but always comes to my mind when I hear stiff like this.
http://www.diver.net/bbs/messages3/22287.shtml Mike

kiyo21 · 10-05-2014, 02:04 PM

not sure but i think this happened to me last night at newport, my dad and i dropped our nets next to the rocks and 4 out of 6 went missing before the fist pull??!

10-04-2014, 01:04 AM	#1
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	Rescue boat stole my hoop net Was out at Santa Monica bay , Relocating my traps rescue boat pulls up about half a mile ask the boat and divers who's is the hoop net they don't claim so they take off with it..... It just finished checking it......... Anyone know who I contact to get it back? __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it

10-04-2014, 06:18 AM	#3
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	Kayakers told me they picked up about 7 yesterday because people leave them in attended, I'm supposed to get 2 hours !!! That's messed up __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it

10-04-2014, 07:17 AM	#4
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,857	Redondo? If you were hooping the Redondo Breakwall the HARBOR PATROL NAZIS got your gear and you can call them and usually get it back. R.B. Harbor Patrol (310) 318-0632 I've had numerous run-ins with them about the 2 hour soak time...They claim that their sphere of influence or ability to regulate as they like, is anywhere close to the harbor. It's a real conundrum because there are no written rules in the Redondo City charter about hoop netting regulations...the SOB's feel that they can make up whatever regulations they like. I not sure how to handle this, since having the city write up some new hooping regs could only open up a Pandora's box of potential problems. I was hooping for crab about a mile or more from the mouth of the harbor and fishing about another mile away from my nets when they rolled up on my gear. I hightailed it over there and ID'd my gear and they said that I needed to be in attendance of my nets...I said I was and read them the DFW 2 hour reg. and gave them a copy of my book with the regs explained in simple language so that even a Harbor Patrol duffus could understand them. When you retrieve your gear, please ask them to explain their homemade regulations and please get back to us with some new info. Please let them know that you think it's unfair to the kayakers to punish them for not being able to power over to your gear immediately as a power boater could. Good Luck __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

10-04-2014, 09:22 AM	#6
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	I called redondo harbor patrol and they have it and picked it up. They said I need to be within a flash light view of my buoys because boats can run over them and crash on the rocks.... They said they don't want buoys left unattended ...... He said they will always leave them at their dock if they take them. I didn't want to argue with them so early in the morning... I had mines placed about half a mile off the rocks . __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it

10-04-2014, 11:43 AM	#7
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,857	WTF WTF is "within a flashlight view" ...? And the next Harbor Patrol guy will give you another answer...? Bunch of Bozos...! __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

10-04-2014, 03:17 AM	#2
ceruleandrms Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: OC Posts: 80	That sucks! Sorry to hear that! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10-04-2014, 08:46 AM	#5
pbb Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 149	I don't think they need anything in the Redondo City Charter, as the DFG regs say: "Any hoop net abandoned or left unchecked for more than 2 hours may be considered abandoned and may be seized by any person authorized to enforce these regulations." The question is whether they are are authorized. It might be most productive to try to have a conversation with DFG about whether they are authorized, and if they are that they need more training (or at least a reminder) that the regs say they need to be checked every two hours, not that they need to constantly "attended." Since the regs allow you 5, you can't sit on top of all of them. But if they are going to be overzealous, what about doing something like putting a tag on the float that you can mark the last time you checked (or maybe your cell number if you have reception on the water). Like cutting a diver's slate into smaller tags? Although you shouldn't have to, seems like it might save some headaches.

10-04-2014, 01:23 PM	#8
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	They're always making shit up as they go, that's why I tend to stay away from that area. __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

10-05-2014, 12:20 PM	#10
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	Lets cut the BS and nonsense. Are these guys just stealing bugs? This was a while ago but always comes to my mind when I hear stiff like this. http://www.diver.net/bbs/messages3/22287.shtml Mike

10-05-2014, 02:04 PM	#11
kiyo21 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Chino CA Posts: 202	not sure but i think this happened to me last night at newport, my dad and i dropped our nets next to the rocks and 4 out of 6 went missing before the fist pull??!