Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge  

Go Back   Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge > Kayak Fishing Forum - Message Board > General Kayak Fishing Discussion
Home Forum Online Store Information LJ Webcam Gallery Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-11-2014, 03:15 PM   #1
fehays
Junior
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 15
Difference between spanish and green mackerel

Hi,

I here people talk about Spanish mackerels, but I don't know what they look like. I think the mackerel i'm most familiar with are what people are calling "green macs". Can someone point me to a picture of a "Spanish mackerel"?
fehays is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 03:20 PM   #2
Zed
BANNED
 
Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: W of 5
Posts: 1,265
Pacific jack mackerel is its proper name.

A true Spanish mackerel looks like a king mackerel.
__________________
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.
Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 03:30 PM   #3
fehays
Junior
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 15
Ah ok. Didn't realize Jack Mackerel = Spanish Mackerel
fehays is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 03:54 PM   #4
jsunmkly
Jason
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: CA
Posts: 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by fehays View Post
Ah ok. Didn't realize Jack Mackerel = Spanish Mackerel
Wait no. Jack mackerel, pacific jack mackerel, pacific greenback mackerel are one same fish referred here as greenie
Spanish mackerel is spanish mackerel that looks like king mackerel and tastes yummy imo
__________________
Malibu
jsunmkly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 03:57 PM   #5
Zed
BANNED
 
Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: W of 5
Posts: 1,265
You can call it chihuil in Mexico. Sometimes they're called jurel when they're canned. Offshore, under pattys they get pretty big and take horse sardines, and are called Spanish jack in the reports, but they're just jack macks.

...and bonito are bonito.
*ducks*
__________________
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.
Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 03:58 PM   #6
Zed
BANNED
 
Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: W of 5
Posts: 1,265
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsunmkly View Post
Wait no. Jack mackerel, pacific jack mackerel, pacific greenback mackerel are one same fish referred here as greenie
Wrong.
Jack mackerel are in the family carangidae w yellowtail.
Green mackerel are in Scombridae w tunas.

Edit: And everyone gets bonus point if they QUIT using Spanish to describe jack macks.

In Australia, a Spanish mackerel is like a King mackerel in the Atlantic. In the Atlantic a Spanish mackerel is like a Sierra mackerel, or a spotted mackerel in Australia. All in the tuna family.
__________________
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.

Last edited by Zed; 08-11-2014 at 04:04 PM.
Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 04:49 PM   #7
Sdspeed
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: San Diego
Posts: 732
Quote:
Originally Posted by fehays View Post
Hi,

I here people talk about Spanish mackerels, but I don't know what they look like. I think the mackerel i'm most familiar with are what people are calling "green macs". Can someone point me to a picture of a "Spanish mackerel"?
Spanish Mac, aka Pacific Mac
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Pacific.mackerel.jpg (106.7 KB, 200 views)
Sdspeed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 05:19 PM   #8
YakDout
Brandon
 
YakDout's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,345
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zed View Post
You can call it chihuil in Mexico. Sometimes they're called jurel when they're canned. Offshore, under pattys they get pretty big and take horse sardines, and are called Spanish jack in the reports, but they're just jack macks.

...and bonito are bonito.
*ducks*
The locals in baja call yellowtail Jurel. Yes I know they are both jacks, but I have never heard of a mackerel called by Jurel.
YakDout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 05:56 PM   #9
Zed
BANNED
 
Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: W of 5
Posts: 1,265
This is a jack mackerel, what people call a Spanish:


What sdspeed posted was a pacific green mackerel or chub mackerel aka greenie.

I can't believe there's this much confusion.

yakdout, I've only ever seen it as jurel in a can. But yes Jurel is generic for jack.
__________________
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.
Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 06:30 PM   #10
taggermike
Senior Member
 
taggermike's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chula Vista
Posts: 1,589
They're very different looking fish, as you can see in the photos. Common names can add to the confusion. What we call a Spanish mackerel, or jack mackerel, is really in the jack family with yellow tail, amber jack, and ulua. Jack mackerel, that's like calling some thing a dog cat. Maybe it's easier to call the 2 local mackerel we use for bait browns and greens. The browns can be a bit annoying to handle because they have 2 sharp little spines at the front of their anal fins and boney "skutes" at the base of their tails. Not venomous, just occasionally painful. Mike
taggermike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 06:31 PM   #11
Hunters Pa
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Fullerton
Posts: 1,360
One has an accent
Hunters Pa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 06:53 PM   #12
Zed
BANNED
 
Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: W of 5
Posts: 1,265
Quote:
Originally Posted by taggermike View Post
They're very different looking fish, as you can see in the photos. Common names can add to the confusion. What we call a Spanish mackerel, or jack mackerel, is really in the jack family with yellow tail, amber jack, and ulua. Jack mackerel, that's like calling some thing a dog cat. Maybe it's easier to call the 2 local mackerel we use for bait browns and greens. The browns can be a bit annoying to handle because they have 2 sharp little spines at the front of their anal fins and boney "skutes" at the base of their tails. Not venomous, just occasionally painful. Mike
Thats good. If you get poked its a jack.

As for brown I dont know. It would get confused w "brown baits" queenfish and tomcod. Ive heard greenies called waffleback macks.
Overall it doesnt matter now that theres visual aides. The OP got it hours ago. lol

HP, sÃX.
__________________
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.
Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 07:12 PM   #13
alanw
Made in U.S.A.
 
alanw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Dana Point
Posts: 1,625
There is a nice old post about this on the forums, with some great info.





Find the original thread here http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=8248
__________________
Hobie PA 14 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>
Jackson Kraken ¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>
Malibu X-Factor ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>
Malibu Stealth-12 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º>


Its not a spelling B its a fishing B ~yakjoe
alanw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 07:33 PM   #14
MrM
Senior Member
 
MrM's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The Matrix
Posts: 643
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zed View Post
Thats good. If you get poked its a jack.
The Sancho of bait fish.
__________________
-Kevin
MrM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 07:39 PM   #15
Zed
BANNED
 
Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: W of 5
Posts: 1,265
Quote:
Originally Posted by alanw View Post
There is a nice old post about this on the forums, with some great info.





Find the original thread here http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=8248
So much for my grassroots campaign.
__________________
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.
Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 08:06 PM   #16
ful-rac
Emperor
 
ful-rac's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Buena Park
Posts: 3,649
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zed View Post
Thats good. If you get poked its a jack.

As for brown I dont know. It would get confused w "brown baits" queenfish and tomcod. Ive heard greenies called waffleback macks.
Overall it doesnt matter now that theres visual aides. The OP got it hours ago. lol

HP, sÃX.


Queenfish are also called herring, but they're really not herring....they used to be plentiful...but i cant remember seeing one in the last 10-15 years...

They're so many different nick names for fish, here are a couple of examples..

Chucklehead
Alabama
Florida
Bosco
Warthog
Turd roller
Mud marlin
Specky
7-11 perch
Barndoor
Grouper
Slime sticks
Logs
Stovepipes
Reds
__________________
There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.
ful-rac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 08:21 PM   #17
Zed
BANNED
 
Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: W of 5
Posts: 1,265
I get queens on the sabiki now and then when it hits bottom.
Tomcod arent cod.
Sculpin arent sculpin. Theyre scorpionfish.
__________________
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.
Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 08:29 PM   #18
GregAndrew
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,384
I like to call them "Catchem lotta fish" and "Catchem fewer fish". But at times you can't beat one with the other.
GregAndrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 08:38 PM   #19
Zed
BANNED
 
Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: W of 5
Posts: 1,265
If a jack isnt lively enough, paddle faster.
__________________
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.
Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2014, 11:24 PM   #20
Cbad Mike
Senior Member
 
Cbad Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Carlsbad Ca.
Posts: 1,206
I use strictly Holy Mackerel.
I figure if they are good enough for Jesus they're good enough for me!
__________________
[SIGPIC]
Cbad Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 2002 Big Water's Edge. All rights reserved.