DMV Kayak Renewal Registration - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Devildawgjj · 10-24-2013, 04:12 PM

I sold my Kayak....last year, I think....it's been so long. I registered it as a vessel, because I put a motor on it. I just received letter for renewal from the DMV. I'm not going to pay the $36 nor submit a PNO, because I don't have it.

The other option is to submit a NRL (Notice of Transfer and Release of Liability). However, they want name, address, etc,. And they want it within 5 days of transfer. I don't know nor have any of this information, because I sold the "vessel" as a KAYAK.

Does anyone have any guidance on how to proceed? I feel that I just opened a can of worms for subjecting myself to govt. bureaucracy when I registered it and we all know that the DMV lacks any common sense; that's why they listed the vessel type as KAYACK"

tacmik · 10-24-2013, 04:50 PM

Drop the notice in the circular file. They (dmv) is so screwed up, it will probably be years before they come after you. Then you just tell them you submitted all the paperwork in their time frame and they must have lost it like they do a lot of their stuff. Now I'm not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Motel once. the writer of this post accepts no liability as to the accuracy of statements made. It is the end user that accepts all liability for actions performed.

Devildawgjj · 10-24-2013, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tacmik

Drop the notice in the circular file. They (dmv) is so screwed up, it will probably be years before they come after you. Then you just tell them you submitted all the paperwork in their time frame and they must have lost it like they do a lot of their stuff. Now I'm not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Motel once. the writer of this post accepts no liability as to the accuracy of statements made. It is the end user that accepts all liability for actions performed.

That was my first instinct....but they would probably hold registration on my other vehicles or get a letter from the state comptroller demanding payment.

alanw · 10-24-2013, 06:17 PM

I would probably not pay (that unregisters it), and if I was worried about it I'd report it to them as lost, destroyed, or abandoned.

Edit: found this at the DMV site: You may put "unknown" in the new buyer's name and address fields on the NRL form

Devildawgjj · 10-24-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by alanw

I would probably not pay (that unregisters it), and if I was worried about it I'd report it to them as lost, destroyed, or abandoned.

Edit: found this at the DMV site: You may put "unknown" in the new buyer's name and address fields on the NRL form

Done! Thanks ALL!!

Fish Taco · 10-24-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by alanw

I would probably not pay (that unregisters it), and if I was worried about it I'd report it to them as lost, destroyed, or abandoned.

Edit: found this at the DMV site: You may put "unknown" in the new buyer's name and address fields on the NRL form

Thanks for sharing this bit of info... as one day, I too may run into the same problem. I just moved here from NY and have a motorized kayak (BassYaks motor) and it is still registered in NY. I've yet to go down to the DMV and re-register it here in CA... just had too many other things to deal with right now that take precedence. I'm dreading it actually. Everytime I deal with the DMV, it's always something. The NY DMV was no better than CA DMV either... trust me... there are idiots on both coasts! ...lol

- Ken

DanaPT · 10-24-2013, 07:48 PM

not saying it is right but I was operating a motorized kayak w/o CF#s for a couple of years w/o incident.

This is small stuff. they've got bigger fish to fry.

Redeyejedi · 10-25-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaPT

not saying it is right but I was operating a motorized kayak w/o CF#s for a couple of years w/o incident.

This is small stuff. they've got bigger fish to fry.

they do indeed, but with states in financial doodoo, any excuse to issue citations...any at all....btw....quota week out there in the west la areas....they are out in full.

StinkyMatt · 10-25-2013, 04:51 PM

Don't register it. Waste of time.

Don't go making figure eights in the middle of the harbor with an unregistered 50 hp merc.

You in a yak having an electric .......

Don't over complicate your life.

10-24-2013, 04:12 PM	#1
Devildawgjj Kayak BOOT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Ventura County Posts: 251	DMV Kayak Renewal Registration I sold my Kayak....last year, I think....it's been so long. I registered it as a vessel, because I put a motor on it. I just received letter for renewal from the DMV. I'm not going to pay the $36 nor submit a PNO, because I don't have it. The other option is to submit a NRL (Notice of Transfer and Release of Liability). However, they want name, address, etc,. And they want it within 5 days of transfer. I don't know nor have any of this information, because I sold the "vessel" as a KAYAK. Does anyone have any guidance on how to proceed? I feel that I just opened a can of worms for subjecting myself to govt. bureaucracy when I registered it and we all know that the DMV lacks any common sense; that's why they listed the vessel type as KAYACK"

10-24-2013, 04:50 PM	#2
tacmik Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: East County Posts: 914	Drop the notice in the circular file. They (dmv) is so screwed up, it will probably be years before they come after you. Then you just tell them you submitted all the paperwork in their time frame and they must have lost it like they do a lot of their stuff. Now I'm not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Motel once. the writer of this post accepts no liability as to the accuracy of statements made. It is the end user that accepts all liability for actions performed. __________________

10-24-2013, 06:17 PM	#4
alanw Made in U.S.A. Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dana Point Posts: 1,625	I would probably not pay (that unregisters it), and if I was worried about it I'd report it to them as lost, destroyed, or abandoned. Edit: found this at the DMV site: You may put "unknown" in the new buyer's name and address fields on the NRL form __________________ Hobie PA 14 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Jackson Kraken ¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu X-Factor ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu Stealth-12 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Its not a spelling B its a fishing B ~yakjoe Last edited by alanw; 10-24-2013 at 06:26 PM.

10-24-2013, 07:48 PM	#7
DanaPT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South OC Posts: 1,606	not saying it is right but I was operating a motorized kayak w/o CF#s for a couple of years w/o incident. This is small stuff. they've got bigger fish to fry.

10-25-2013, 04:51 PM	#9
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	Don't register it. Waste of time. Don't go making figure eights in the middle of the harbor with an unregistered 50 hp merc. You in a yak having an electric ....... Don't over complicate your life.