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Bugging Tips
Dealing with the crowds...Not everyone has the extra time but I'll set up just a bit before the others. When I'm not cutting in on top of everyone and dropping in between other people's traps, I'm usually good to go. I'll hang near my traps while others are setting up. This is a good time to check in with the buggers on both sides of your set. Most are trying to be cool with their neighbors. I can't help you with the Ass Holes. My compadres know that I will go bonkers when people are dicks and even then, it usually doesn't help with that kind. As much as I used to think bait was all about using salmon heads for best results...it's not. It can be pricey (cost is relative) AND I came to the conclusion the dogs stick around a bit longer and work harder if salmon is around... Keep two bug measuring gauges. "The Man" is unforgiving if you don't have a gauge when checked (even if you lost it). If Mr. Dog is around, I'll run my traps in the dark (lights off) and move away from my set (close enough to police them if needed). I'll even hangout near someone else's traps (which aren't being monitored) to lure the seal(s) away from mine... ![]() Adding some D.O.T. reflector tape to your floats can really help locate your traps when you swing your light around... If a dog is around, I'll hold up on dropping my trap(s) until he's gone. I've had them follow me for up to 15 minutes but I know they'll eventually leave. Once they taste your bait, it could hang around searching for your other traps. I have a cheapy Everyready light for something a bit more than just my headlamp. Like $5.00 at Home Depot or elsewhere. It's water resistant and helps alert an oncoming boat, ship or freighter... ![]() I'm a Promar light guy. I'll add a few layers of Teflon to completely seal them from water. The grease they use will eventually dry up and water will penetrate. I've got some lights going on my third season if I change out the batteries. Hope this helps. Be safe. Good luck to everyone. Jim
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Thanks for the tips... As far as bait do people use cat food cans at all??
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![]() I think structure and location is most important. Find the structure where the commercial guys are not or find them crawling...THAT's where the consistent success is at. Jim
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I always bring extra wire ties, glow sticks, measuring tool, gloves, flash light and a knife in a Tupperware container. Most of these wont float and all are nesasary at one point or another. I place a glow stick on the front and rear handles of my yak. I also place an old broken rod in a rod holder behind my seat and tie a glow stick on the last remaining eyelet. This keeps it behind and above me and lights up my deck. I believe this also gives boaters a little more depth perception at night and keeps me from using my head light once my eyes get adjusted to the dark. I place my bait cages in a large Tupperware dish and store it inside my yak. This helps with the clean up the next day. Hopes this helps
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Thanks for the insight. This will be my first season and im sure there is a huge learning curve that only on the water experience will really drive home, but this very helpful. Especially the saftey tips.
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http://t.homedepot.com/p/YARDGARD-2-...231B/202024052
This is a rust free way to make your nets seal proof. Cut it to fit over the top of your mesh on your hoops. Both the 1/4" and 1/2" work great.
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Question. I hooped last year, and didnt really get enough to have to store them most were eaten within a day or 2. How does everyone store their lobster? I was thinking of just stuffing them in a food saver bag and doing the whole suction and seal deal, then toss in the freezer. Anyone have a better suggestion.
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fill your cards date, area, what type hoops and how many before you even leave the beach to stay legal.
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This will be my first year bugging and I have a question. How long do you let your nets soak? And what do you do while you're waiting for the bugs?
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How Long
If you are using flat (classic) style nets you don't need a very long soak time. It's really easy for the lobsters and crabs to get to the bait...they simply walk across the netting and start eating...so 15 minutes to 1/2 hour is usually enough time to get some visitors.
With the conical nets you are best off giving them a little longer soak time as the lobsters and crabs must figure out how to get up and into the net to start eating. 1/2 hour up to 2 hours of soak time is sometimes needed. I've watched with an underwater camera as the Bugs circle the conical style net and then leave as they can't figure out how to get in, and the next Bug walks right up and over the net as if he got the memo. Jim / Saba Slayer |
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There's plenty of opinions...here's mine. If you're on shallow spots, flats work great. Jettys, eel grass beds, rocks, shoreline, shopping carts
![]() ![]() If you're in deeper water, maybe 20' and more, I definitely prefer conicals. Someone mentioned it in another post. There's nothing better than feeling the thump of a larger bug trying to exit a conical, but they actually get caught up in the fold of the net. I've got to think bugs shoot out of flat traps fairly easily as they are pulled from any depth...Jim
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Super soaker I need to get one. Had some idiot try to run me over with his boat multiple times last year to get me to leave my spot. Would have been perfect to soak him with cold water.
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I'm not sure a super soaker is a great idea. In general when dealing with powerboats, divers and sea lions we need to recognize we have the disadvantage. Escalating a confrontation puts the kayaker at the greatest risk for injury, not worth it over a couple bugs. |
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If there is a boater that is really trying to run you down, call the harbor patrol...they'll take care of his ass.
Dont mess with divers either...even if they are in the wrong, you start talking shit, your bouys will be floating away. You lose
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How about a spear gun in the line of sight just as a deterrent?
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I would think a nice big heavy iron jig would work well too. And now you have something to do while soaking your net.
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NEVER provoke something bigger than you. Spend time between pulls by making more bait.
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