lj 8/25 Mystery shark - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

beef78 · 08-25-2013, 09:31 PM

Didn't catch anything other than a baby rock fish, 8 sand dabs and some bait. The waves coming back in were the worst I've seen. Put my nose into the sand and I had to bail. didn't flip the yak, but I saw quite a few tourists struggling. The high point of the trip was the 6-7 foot shark I saw swimming about 30 feet from the launch. Pretty cool! I am not sure what kind it was but it was definitely not a leo. It was grey with black at the tips of its fins. I was busy getting pushed into shore by the surf, so I didn't get a picture of it. I thought about swimming out to try and get a pic but I thought it would have swam off because it was headed north at a good clip. Any thoughts about what it could be?

philr21 · 08-26-2013, 04:03 AM

Sounds like a blacktip or another sort of warm water reef shark that pushed up from down south.

Lipripper92592 · 08-26-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by beef78

Didn't catch anything other than a baby rock fish, 8 sand dabs and some bait. The waves coming back in were the worst I've seen. Put my nose into the sand and I had to bail. didn't flip the yak, but I saw quite a few tourists struggling. The high point of the trip was the 6-7 foot shark I saw swimming about 30 feet from the launch. Pretty cool! I am not sure what kind it was but it was definitely not a leo. It was grey with black at the tips of its fins. I was busy getting pushed into shore by the surf, so I didn't get a picture of it. I thought about swimming out to try and get a pic but I thought it would have swam off because it was headed north at a good clip. Any thoughts about what it could be?

I could have sworn I saw a salmon shark about 4 feet in length cruising with a leo in about five feet of water off the launch a few months ago.

beef78 · 08-26-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lipripper92592

I could have sworn I saw a salmon shark about 4 feet in length cruising with a leo in about five feet of water off the launch a few months ago.

I really wish I got a better glimpse or even a picture. Maybe I'll go out there after work tomorrow and chill in the same area waiting for it with my mask and snorkel and gopro with my yak anchored. It would be sweet to get a good shot of him up close.

beef78 · 08-26-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by philr21

Sounds like a blacktip or another sort of warm water reef shark that pushed up from down south.

Do blacktips come up this far? I think oceanic black tips go in cold water but not this shallow. Maybe I need to do some hands on research...

ctfphoto · 08-26-2013, 01:11 PM

I saw a green sea turtle the other day in La Jolla and was like WTF?????

Googled it and got more info.

Ggiannig89 · 08-26-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ctfphoto

I saw a green sea turtle the other day in La Jolla and was like WTF?????

Googled it and got more info.

theres a bunch of them in the back of the SD bay. well atleast there used to be from when the power plant kept everything warm. supposedly there used to be a bunch of big shrimp and lobster swimming around the power plant as well

beef78 · 08-26-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ctfphoto

I saw a green sea turtle the other day in La Jolla and was like WTF?????

Googled it and got more info.

I thought I saw one swimming around the kelp but couldn't find it when I tried to chase it down and figured it was my imagination. maybe I did see it.

lowprofile · 08-26-2013, 05:42 PM

weird. was it heavy bodied or slender?

heres some pics of different sharks.

soupfin (from california, just north of LJ)

black tip

small dusky, they look about the same all through their life and are common to california

and bull

they can all be found in socal and can have black on their fins. the others you might encounter are salmon sharks, great whites (they come in small packages too, saw a 4fter in oceanside harbor), sevengills, oceanic white tips, tigers and hammers.

makobob · 08-26-2013, 05:47 PM

You forgot our short fin MAKO!

beef78 · 08-26-2013, 06:24 PM

After looking at all those, I would have to guess black tip, but I am not sure. I didn't get a good enough look at it.

usmp06 · 08-26-2013, 06:47 PM

Did it look like this?

beef78 · 08-26-2013, 08:28 PM

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Did it look like this?

Hard to say because I saw it from above.

Aaron&Julie · 08-26-2013, 09:40 PM

I wouldn't question all the possibilities mentioned except one, the Salmon Shark. Most know it's in the same family as the Great White, and Mako, a few of the only warm-blooded sharks in the whole world, but Salmon's most typically are very far north of here, preferring much colder water, as is off the coast of Alaska. In all my life I've never heard of an account of one in Socal waters, not that I've heard everything there is to know, but I've certainly followed ocean fishing closely for 42 years.
Aaron

makoslayer · 08-26-2013, 10:16 PM

never knew bulls/hammers/tigers are in so cal. They prefer warmer water on the east coast. I was stationed in florida and i saw all three of these in a day at the pier. the hammer was 10ft east swimming around the swimmers and following the pier out to the deep....pretty intense.

beef78 · 08-26-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie

I wouldn't question all the possibilities mentioned except one, the Salmon Shark. Most know it's in the same family as the Great White, and Mako, a few of the only warm-blooded sharks in the whole world, but Salmon's most typically are very far north of here, preferring much colder water, as is off the coast of Alaska. In all my life I've never heard of an account of one in Socal waters, not that I've heard everything there is to know, but I've certainly followed ocean fishing closely for 42 years.
Aaron

I've heard of the young ones washing up on beaches all the time in california, but I really don't know how common they are.

lowprofile · 08-27-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie

I wouldn't question all the possibilities mentioned except one, the Salmon Shark. Most know it's in the same family as the Great White, and Mako, a few of the only warm-blooded sharks in the whole world, but Salmon's most typically are very far north of here, preferring much colder water, as is off the coast of Alaska. In all my life I've never heard of an account of one in Socal waters, not that I've heard everything there is to know, but I've certainly followed ocean fishing closely for 42 years.
Aaron

they are hear, the pups run the shallow coastal waters all the time and wash up now and then. there was an adult school off newport a couple years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heASYwQEsNY

i didn't mention mako because they don't normally have black tips, and i've never seen or heard or them having them.

hammers used to be a common catch back in the 60's all the to monterey. tigers and bulls are found along Baja California and have been sighted off of sand diego, they could easily be pushed up in numbers by a warm current.

beef78 · 08-27-2013, 05:02 PM

I think the water temp at LJ has cooled down a little lately. I don't know. Hopefully, I get better look at him this weekend.

Ggiannig89 · 08-28-2013, 07:16 AM

my brother seen this guy a couple summers ago on beach in coronado. Is it a great white or salmon?

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lowprofile · 08-28-2013, 04:40 PM

thats a salmon shark. too small overall to be a white and the teeth are more mako like.

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my brother seen this guy a couple summers ago on beach in coronado. Is it a great white or salmon?

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08-25-2013, 09:31 PM	#1
beef78 Large Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 316	lj 8/25 Mystery shark Didn't catch anything other than a baby rock fish, 8 sand dabs and some bait. The waves coming back in were the worst I've seen. Put my nose into the sand and I had to bail. didn't flip the yak, but I saw quite a few tourists struggling. The high point of the trip was the 6-7 foot shark I saw swimming about 30 feet from the launch. Pretty cool! I am not sure what kind it was but it was definitely not a leo. It was grey with black at the tips of its fins. I was busy getting pushed into shore by the surf, so I didn't get a picture of it. I thought about swimming out to try and get a pic but I thought it would have swam off because it was headed north at a good clip. Any thoughts about what it could be? __________________ "I shall not tiptoe through life to arrive safely at death."

08-26-2013, 05:42 PM	#9
lowprofile #1 on fishstick's hitlist Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,478	weird. was it heavy bodied or slender? heres some pics of different sharks. soupfin (from california, just north of LJ) black tip small dusky, they look about the same all through their life and are common to california and bull they can all be found in socal and can have black on their fins. the others you might encounter are salmon sharks, great whites (they come in small packages too, saw a 4fter in oceanside harbor), sevengills, oceanic white tips, tigers and hammers. __________________ MLPA- My Largest Poaching Area

08-26-2013, 05:47 PM	#10
makobob Baitless on Baja Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vista California, Gonzaga, San Quintin, Asuncion, Mag Bay Posts: 4,250	You forgot our short fin MAKO! __________________ http://www.mako-ville.com Home 760-630-4470 Cell 760-520-2514 YES YOU CAN

08-26-2013, 06:24 PM	#11
beef78 Large Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 316	After looking at all those, I would have to guess black tip, but I am not sure. I didn't get a good enough look at it. __________________ "I shall not tiptoe through life to arrive safely at death."

08-26-2013, 06:47 PM	#12
usmp06 Shark Bait Join Date: May 2013 Location: Banning Posts: 91	Did it look like this? Attached Images

08-26-2013, 04:03 AM	#2
philr21 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Yokosuka, Japan Posts: 228	Sounds like a blacktip or another sort of warm water reef shark that pushed up from down south.

08-26-2013, 01:11 PM	#6
ctfphoto Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 901	I saw a green sea turtle the other day in La Jolla and was like WTF????? Googled it and got more info.

08-26-2013, 09:40 PM	#14
Aaron&Julie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring Valley Posts: 1,400	I wouldn't question all the possibilities mentioned except one, the Salmon Shark. Most know it's in the same family as the Great White, and Mako, a few of the only warm-blooded sharks in the whole world, but Salmon's most typically are very far north of here, preferring much colder water, as is off the coast of Alaska. In all my life I've never heard of an account of one in Socal waters, not that I've heard everything there is to know, but I've certainly followed ocean fishing closely for 42 years. Aaron __________________ "Never say die"

08-26-2013, 10:16 PM	#15
makoslayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Coronado Posts: 234	never knew bulls/hammers/tigers are in so cal. They prefer warmer water on the east coast. I was stationed in florida and i saw all three of these in a day at the pier. the hammer was 10ft east swimming around the swimmers and following the pier out to the deep....pretty intense. __________________ *http://www.fishyakhunt.com* Stealth 14 (Sand Camo)

08-27-2013, 05:02 PM	#18
beef78 Large Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 316	I think the water temp at LJ has cooled down a little lately. I don't know. Hopefully, I get better look at him this weekend. __________________ "I shall not tiptoe through life to arrive safely at death."

08-28-2013, 07:16 AM	#19
Ggiannig89 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: El Cajon Posts: 512	my brother seen this guy a couple summers ago on beach in coronado. Is it a great white or salmon? Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4