Two Fold Question: - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Devildawgjj · 02-06-2012, 12:27 PM

I know this might sound amateurish in the most rudementary form, but can you use a droper loop on braid, with a mono/floro leader of about a 2ft for the hook?

And what kind (shape) of sinker would be best suited for drifting? I know current, depth, and bottom dictate; but I'm just curious what kind of weight(s) is used most frequently for halibut.

Note: I use a carolina keeper quite frequently, but I haven't for drifting.

min-va · 02-06-2012, 12:59 PM

Yea, it should be fine, must add leader... i did that all the time when drifting halibut, seems no problem..

As for the sinker, i usually use any ball shape sinker.

fishsouthcounty · 02-06-2012, 12:59 PM

What i do is take my spool of mono/fluoro that will be used and make the connection from your braid to mono/fluoro and then make the cut for your leader after my connection is made. That way if i use too long of a tag end for my leader line then i can make the right length leader because i havent made the cut yet. Sucks cutting 3-4 feet off that expensive spool of seaguar and then realizing you effed up the knot now your not going to have enough leader to make it work.

Considering you mention halibut im guessing you will be rigging the dropper reversed. I like using torpedo sinkers when fishing the reverse dropper for halibut. Like you said, current, depth, and wind dictate the size of the sinker.

William Novotny · 02-06-2012, 12:59 PM

If you use a dropper loop off the braid your gonna find yourself getting twisted an tangled alot. Im by no means the go to expert on hali fishing but I have had luck on multiple occasions using a carolina keeper, 1oz egg and a live bait hook on the drift. If I set up a traditional hali rig I always use a 1-2oz torpedo sinker, but you can use heavier in deeper swifter moving water. Hope this helps.

echo1er · 02-06-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by William Novotny

If you use a dropper loop off the braid your gonna find yourself getting twisted an tangled alot. Im by no means the go to expert on hali fishing but I have had luck on multiple occasions using a carolina keeper, 1oz egg and a live bait hook on the drift. If I set up a traditional hali rig I always use a 1-2oz torpedo sinker, but you can use heavier in deeper swifter moving water. Hope this helps.

+1

jorluivil · 02-06-2012, 02:47 PM

I've tried the dropper loop on straight braid but because braid has a lot of slippage it doesn't hold the loop/knot very well and just like Mr Novotny said, it will get twisted and get twisted fast.

Do you know what is the best way to undo a twisted line of braid?

PapaDave · 02-06-2012, 05:07 PM

a pair of scissors?

jorluivil · 02-06-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PapaDCh

a pair of scissors?

yup.....but a knife or dikes will also work.

GregAndrew · 02-06-2012, 07:06 PM

I tried a pair of dykes, but those bitches almost sunk my yak. Oh sorry, you said dikes.

GregAndrew · 02-06-2012, 07:19 PM

You probably don't want to use the braid loop to attach your sinker to. Braid frays easily, and your weight is going to be bouncing off the bottom.

Ball weights work good for bouncing along without getting buried in the sand, torpedos/inline weights work well for preventing snags.

capntim · 02-06-2012, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregAndrew

I tried a pair of dykes, but those bitches almost sunk my yak. Oh sorry, you said dikes.

That funny.

fishsouthcounty · 02-06-2012, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregAndrew

I tried a pair of dykes, but those bitches almost sunk my yak. Oh sorry, you said dikes.

haha freakin epic. thank you

02-06-2012, 12:27 PM	#1
Devildawgjj Kayak BOOT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Ventura County Posts: 251	Two Fold Question: I know this might sound amateurish in the most rudementary form, but can you use a droper loop on braid, with a mono/floro leader of about a 2ft for the hook? And what kind (shape) of sinker would be best suited for drifting? I know current, depth, and bottom dictate; but I'm just curious what kind of weight(s) is used most frequently for halibut. Note: I use a carolina keeper quite frequently, but I haven't for drifting.

02-06-2012, 12:59 PM	#2
min-va Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Hacienda Heights Posts: 216	Yea, it should be fine, must add leader... i did that all the time when drifting halibut, seems no problem.. As for the sinker, i usually use any ball shape sinker. __________________ www.vapercompany.com

02-06-2012, 12:59 PM	#4
William Novotny The carpetbagger Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: tha newps Posts: 1,474	If you use a dropper loop off the braid your gonna find yourself getting twisted an tangled alot. Im by no means the go to expert on hali fishing but I have had luck on multiple occasions using a carolina keeper, 1oz egg and a live bait hook on the drift. If I set up a traditional hali rig I always use a 1-2oz torpedo sinker, but you can use heavier in deeper swifter moving water. Hope this helps. __________________ "The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope." http://www.badinfluencetattoo.com/gallery.php?artist=21

02-06-2012, 02:47 PM	#6
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	I've tried the dropper loop on straight braid but because braid has a lot of slippage it doesn't hold the loop/knot very well and just like Mr Novotny said, it will get twisted and get twisted fast. Do you know what is the best way to undo a twisted line of braid? __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

02-06-2012, 12:59 PM	#3
fishsouthcounty Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Juan Capistrano, Ca Posts: 518	What i do is take my spool of mono/fluoro that will be used and make the connection from your braid to mono/fluoro and then make the cut for your leader after my connection is made. That way if i use too long of a tag end for my leader line then i can make the right length leader because i havent made the cut yet. Sucks cutting 3-4 feet off that expensive spool of seaguar and then realizing you effed up the knot now your not going to have enough leader to make it work. Considering you mention halibut im guessing you will be rigging the dropper reversed. I like using torpedo sinkers when fishing the reverse dropper for halibut. Like you said, current, depth, and wind dictate the size of the sinker.

02-06-2012, 05:07 PM	#7
PapaDave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 1,473	a pair of scissors?

02-06-2012, 07:06 PM	#9
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	I tried a pair of dykes, but those bitches almost sunk my yak. Oh sorry, you said dikes.

02-06-2012, 07:19 PM	#10
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	You probably don't want to use the braid loop to attach your sinker to. Braid frays easily, and your weight is going to be bouncing off the bottom. Ball weights work good for bouncing along without getting buried in the sand, torpedos/inline weights work well for preventing snags.