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Old 07-18-2011, 03:27 PM   #1
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LOOK MAW, QUADRUPLETS!

Someone must be feedin' the Jewel fertility drugs!?!?...
I'll share the story later but just so you know there was some of..............
this
this
this &
& this




(Editing videos....No Biscuits were harmed during their release(s)...)

** Thanks AVERY for lending me your headlamp..it was almost impossible to get the trebles out of their greedy mouths without it...**
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:37 PM   #2
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is there a video coming? i see no quadruplets! but if so damn good job out there Wade!

when I grow up I want to catch fish like you
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:45 PM   #3
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the headlamp didn't work, either that or the flash didn't go off...
that's four more than I've got...
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:53 PM   #4
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Right on Wade! That's awesome!!!
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:09 PM   #5
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In advance of the video...dammit!
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:27 AM   #6
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is there a video coming? i see no quadruplets! but if so damn good job out there Wade!

when I grow up I want to catch fish like you
hey Nick, you got to be like me? I catch more fish than Wade!
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:23 PM   #7
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Someone must be feedin' the Jewel fertility drugs!?!?...
I'll share the story later but just so you know there was some of..............
this
this
this &
& this




(Editing videos....No Biscuits were harmed during their release(s)...)

** Thanks AVERY for lending me your headlamp..it was almost impossible to get the trebles out of their greedy mouths without it...**
I call B.S. until the video is posted
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:26 PM   #8
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LOOK MAW, QUADRUPLETS!
Can't stop LOL-ing
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:05 PM   #9
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Only a kayak fisherman & kayak fisherwomen can appreciate this video, so anyone else I'll warn well in advance..THIS WONT INTEREST YOU AT ALL!...
Almost nothing recognizable, pitch black, 3am. Horrible footage. If you listen carefully you can hear #1 croaking like crazy!!


1 24#- Released
1 35#- Released
1 38#+ Released
1 42#++ Released

Im so busy this week recording, that I don't have time to even slice some beautiful Biscuits & cook up a pot...
So I went out @ 3 just to pull on a few..

**( I encourage any intellectual or constructive criticism ect re: if anyone thinks I am doing "more harm than good by publicizing such infos) **



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Old 07-18-2011, 05:13 PM   #10
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AWESOME SOUNDBOARD, AWESOME TRACK!
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:28 PM   #11
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**( I encourage any intellectual or constructive criticism ect re: if anyone thinks I am doing "more harm than good by publicizing such infos) **
[QUOTE=wade;89914]

Do you really think there are intellectuals on this site

Nice fish Wade, too bad we can't see them!

If treated correctly most fish do survive after being released. Unfortunately most people on this website these days are Amateurs. These newbies are looking at The KID, Darkdonkey, and even you Wade for examples and information. That being said, most of these armatures barely know how to fish, let alone paddle a kayak or swim. As a result, many of them DO NOT know how to successfully release fish.

So as far as your question about harm versus good, I would have to lean more towards harmful.

Your post is inspirational, but If you truly respect the wsb fishery you do not CNR wsb for fun. The fish do not benefit from an ego boosting CNR experience. The only thing your video did is convince more people to get on the water this weekend. More people fishing means more dead fish. There is nothing wrong with dead fish. I kill fish all the time. I just don't understand the why world needs to know about it.

Yea, some people may have been inspired because you released a few fish, but that is a mute point. The key word here is inspired. I doubt any of the people who are motivated to fish this weekend now will release a WSB successfully... it takes a lot of experience to CNR fish the "right way" and I doubt that most of the guys that saw the video know what they are doing... which is why I am responding to this post. I hope that my response makes people learn more about the best methods for CNR. Good post, although I disagree with CNR fishing. I think there are more important and fun things to do in life than ruining a fishes day for my personal entertainment.

I would rather see a report about killing three big wsb compared to posting a report about catching and releasing ten wsb

There are other reasons why posting on the internet is harmful which apply to this thread, but there is nothing we can do about that.

So why did you put the post up Wade? Do you think is was harmful or beneficial to the public?

I thought the general public would like to read some information written by researchers at PIER on the topic of WSB and CNR.

www.pier.org

article on the recent white seabass fishing seasons:

http://www.pcsportfishing.com/article/11

article on the best way to catch and release fish:

http://www.pcsportfishing.com/article/23

discussion on www.spearboard.com :

http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=119592

yes I am bitter because it has been way too crowded at La Jolla recently.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:53 PM   #12
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Unfortunately most people on this website these days are AMATURES.
Agreed. In fact, some have no clue. On our last trip, on a very clear day, it was obvious to anyone who has fished before, you could see from 50 yards, that we were on a drift with 2 poles each in the water. What does this yo-yo do? He comes up in front of Julie's kayak (the direction of our lines) to about 20 feet away, then says, "Oh, do you have lines in the water?", which I responded, "Yes", with obvious disdain. Then the yo-yo makes an even dumber decision to go between us (we're about 30 feet apart) as he heads towards the launch.
All of us were amateur/newbie kayak fisherman at one point in time. Nothing against Josh, but I think too many newbies are taking shortcuts to success, without learning certain steps along the way. Hopefully, he is explaining to ALL of his customers fair boundaries, and proper release techniques. I'm sure not all of his trips include CNR, so a couple of pointers here:
1) Be gentle. Handle the fish as little as possible, removing slime removes their protected barrier against bacteria.
2) Try not to take it out of the water, but if you do, put it back ASAP.

Please feel free to add more.

Now, that it is summertime, there is almost nothing we can do about the crowding, especially if the fish are biting. But, letting people know about proper etiquette and CNR procedures can only help.

I still like seeing timely fish reports come in, and hope they continue. But, I've (and Julie) paid my (our) dues on the water, as to not damage our resource and be courteous to others.
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:18 PM   #13
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Hopefully, he is explaining to ALL of his customers fair boundaries, and proper release techniques. I'm sure not all of his trips include CNR, so a couple of pointers here:
1) Be gentle. Handle the fish as little as possible, removing slime removes their protected barrier against bacteria.
2) Try not to take it out of the water, but if you do, put it back ASAP.

Please feel free to add more.
3) Circle Hooks!! - hopefully you guys are using them already for the cbass cause they greatly increase your chances of getting them to the boat without chewing thru your line. I like the Owner Ringed Gorilla Circle Hooks 2/0 - 4/0.

4)Quickly inspect the fish... Not all fish are releasable, bleeding/damaged gills, swallowed hooks, inflated swim blatter, or even that line burn some fish get on their sides/tails are all good reasons to keep that fish.

Although I can't really imagine any "amatures" actually releasing a quality fish without the coaxing from a much more experienced angler. Even then good luck!!!

As for the survivability, I'm no scientist but these fish survive H&L trama, get thrown on a table cut open, have a piece of plastic installed, sewn up (the whole time out of the water) then released....and guess what, they live!!! I've even seen dozens of WSB with some pretty big scars from gaffs, spearguns, and even sharks and they seemed to heal up fine. But then again, your right, no fish is better off after being released.

And as far as I know "culling" means keeping a smaller fish on-board until you catch a larger fish to replace it, then you release the smaller one(s) to stay within the bag limits. I'm pretty sure Wades fish never left the water and was released ASAP.

One thing we can all agree on....posting inspirational fish reports while there are squid around is harmful to the fish, but the videos and stories sure are entertaining, and sometimes even enlightening.

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Old 07-18-2011, 05:11 PM   #14
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Catching cbass in the dark = EASY

Remembering to bring/charge all the batteries, lights, cameras, exc EVERY TIME, then trying to get good, well lit footage while fighting, then releasing a cbass = NOT SO MUCH!!!

Can't wait to see the video!!

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Old 07-18-2011, 05:22 PM   #15
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Just watched the vid....did you ever notice how the video gets even darker after being uploaded to youtube?

I still have not shot any good night footage either....everytime I have all the lighting they dont bite!!!
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:48 PM   #16
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you sure that is the fish croaking!!

well done......

I released a bsb yesterday. fun for the fight!
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:59 PM   #17
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The video kinda sucked...





But your right Wade
being a kayak fisherman
I thought it was excellent


awesome job!
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:09 PM   #18
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Dude, a few more and they are going to give you a TV show! Nice going on the C & R.
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:33 PM   #19
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Welcome back, missed your posts. nice work on the release.
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:49 PM   #20
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Nice going on the releases, Wade.
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