DFG STRIP SEARCH - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

wiredantz · 05-21-2011, 09:30 PM

DFG DID A STRIP SEARCH ON MY KAYAK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WATER.

Went out with the boys to Cabrillo Beach this morning, and i hear Tim say watch out guys DFG is on the move. DFG stops all of our small kayaks on their small raft and come pay us a visit in the middle of the ocean.

I had my license out and the officer opens up my X-factor front hatch without my consent and then he wants me to open the middle hatch of my X-factor. So i told the officer i only spread my legs for my wife(well i didn't really say that but Matt told me i should of said it. So then I spread my legs and open the middle hatch to find my tackle boxes. He almost asked me to open my rear hatch but i would of told him "Your going to have to tow me back to shore to open that rear hatch and then tow me back to this spot." So they went on their way to check the private boaters.

That was a close call they almost found jorluivil
AKA George sleeping in the rear hatch.

They could of sited me for possession of an illegal.

LOL!!!

bubblehide · 05-21-2011, 10:01 PM

DFG's search rights are much broader than police officers. Police officers are required by law to ask to search unless they have probable cause; where as if you admit to fishing or hunting, or are observed fishing or hunting, they do NOT need to ask.

I try to be extra legal, and can't say that I have personally had any issues with DFG; I just cooperate and everything goes smoothly. In all my years of fishing and hunting, I have only encountered 1 DFG officer that was a jerk, and in his case it was with a captiol J; but it all ended fine. I just wish I would see them out there more often.

Just one question about your encounter, was it as enjoyable for you as it was for the officer?

StinkyMatt · 05-21-2011, 10:22 PM

Hey Frank, you forgot to mention the part where you asked the guy to pat you down again after he was done.

Something along"......try again, pat harder, you may have missed something....

"

They questioned me too, no big deal, but still annoying.

He asked me what my target species was, since a net was not easily visible. I replied "Sandbass and Lizardfish"

Nice day today. We'll get them next time.

jorluivil · 05-22-2011, 08:32 AM

I'm sure the DFG Officers got a little uncomfortable as soon as they noticed Frank was wearing a thong with cowboy boots and body glitter. Frank, I'm only going to tell you one more time, the thin side of the thong going in the back not the front, you keep wearing your thongs backwards

All kidding aside, I always have a good time fishing with you guys. I'm slowly starting to learn some of the techniques and rigging used when fishing for hali's and I'm sure it's just a matter of time before my cherry is popped.

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Eric and I headed out past the break wall to chase some birds, turns out it was just a bunch of dolphins chasing bait. I kept going and didn't realize how far out I had gone until I looked back. One mile out in the open in Long Beach is no LJ once the afterwinds pick up........it can get nasty, FAST.

wiredantz · 05-22-2011, 09:46 AM

. George lol yOu were so attentive at what I was wearing.

George went out so far he was testing the limits of his h
Kayak. We had to call him on the radio to make sure he was okay. He then responded by saying he was becoming one with nature.

jorluivil · 05-22-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wiredantz

. George lol yOu were so attentive at what I was wearing.

George went out so far he was testing the limits of his h
Kayak. We had to call him on the radio to make sure he was okay. He then responded by saying he was becoming one with nature.

You should have followed me and put that paddle to the real test, THE MANS TEST

tagyak · 05-23-2011, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

I kept going and didn't realize how far out I had gone until I looked back. One mile out in the open in Long Beach is no LJ once the afterwinds pick up........it can get nasty, FAST.

yah that is really easy to do when you are on a hobie

GregAndrew · 05-23-2011, 10:37 PM

The DFG go out there periodically and do the same check to almost everyone they see with a pole in the water. They are a little zealous sometimes, but I think it is all about getting the message out that they are "watching". I have had them trap my leg between my yak and their hull while one of them was all but diving into my front hatch. The good news is that if you cooperate, they will usually turn you on to the hot spots if you ask (that is Hot Spt, not G Spot so don't get any ideas you 2).

Jimmyz123 · 05-22-2011, 10:13 AM

I've been inspected twice. One time I did not have my license on me and I thought I was going to get nailed. They checked all the hatches, asked if we had licenses, but didn't ask to see them. Off they went.

It's better to cooperate with them and not be rude. You do have your rights and it's good to know those. Most of the time they will ask if they can look, this guys sounds like he was looking for something or someone.

mtnbykr2 · 05-24-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyz123

I've been inspected twice. One time I did not have my license on me and I thought I was going to get nailed. They checked all the hatches, asked if we had licenses, but didn't ask to see them. Off they went.

It's better to cooperate with them and not be rude. You do have your rights and it's good to know those. Most of the time they will ask if they can look, this guys sounds like he was looking for something or someone.

X2 on the strip searches this year, I had not been checked in I don't know how long, but this this year, I believe it has been about 5 times so far, one
full on pat down, looking in the vehicle, the kayak, hatches, tackle, pulled the license out of the holder....he would have checked my pockets unless I hadn't had my waders on...I asked him about all the people on the rocks taking illegal fish, and why they are not addressing that, he flat out told me, they can't pay the fines so they look at people who can...go figure...just smile and nod

blitzburgh · 05-24-2011, 12:52 PM

I'm all for full cooperation with DFG. But how come I never see them walk and check the Piers?

flydigital · 05-24-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blitzburgh

I'm all for full cooperation with DFG. But how come I never see them walk and check the Piers?

I think mtnbykr2 nailed it...

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Originally Posted by mtnbykr2

I asked him about all the people on the rocks taking illegal fish, and why they are not addressing that, he flat out told me, they can't pay the fines so they look at people who can...go figure...

tagyak · 05-24-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mtnbykr2

I asked him about all the people on the rocks taking illegal fish, and why they are not addressing that, he flat out told me, they can't pay the fines so they look at people who can...go figure...just smile and nod

what i get from this is, they really don't want to do their jobs properly........disappointing but that is life. some guys truly want to do their best and some just want to skate.

flydigital · 05-24-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tagyak

what i get from this is, they really don't want to do their jobs properly........disappointing but that is life. some guys truly want to do their best and some just want to skate.

I don't know, they don't really have many options do they? The state is always lowering the DFG budget and now they're stripping them of their own income for the general fund. The number of wardens is shrinking all the time. They have to play the odds in their favor and create income for the department if they want to keep their jobs. Spending time issuing tickets that will never get paid probably isn't an option for them.

mtnbykr2 · 05-24-2011, 03:44 PM

It's all about the money...unfortunate...my "ducks are in a row" like everyone elses I'm with Jimmy on this one...smile and nod...

12-22-and whatever else is legal if you take em home to eat...lol

tagyak · 05-24-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by flydigital

I don't know, they don't really have many options do they? The state is always lowering the DFG budget and now they're stripping them of their own income for the general fund. The number of wardens is shrinking all the time. They have to play the odds in their favor and create income for the department if they want to keep their jobs. Spending time issuing tickets that will never get paid probably isn't an option for them.

it is this type of mentality that gets me maddd!!!! there always seems to be a double standard in play. the politicians get to do what ever they want and we the people get to pay for their policies.
so what happens if we don't pay for these citations or our annual fishing license. would we be lumped into the dead beats who can't pay?????? WTF

Jimmyz123 · 05-24-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mtnbykr2

I asked him about all the people on the rocks taking illegal fish, and why they are not addressing that, he flat out told me, they can't pay the fines so they look at people who can...go figure...just smile and nod

I had a conversation with a buddy of mine Saturday who has been inspected many times, and has talked in lenght with the wardens and they told him the same thing when he asked about the Rock and shore fisherman.

I get it, and understand, but singling out someone just because you think they can pay a fine, that's not cool. However, I'm still on the cooperating mode with them. I have nothing to hide and I don't keep any fish that are not legal size, and I ususally go well over legal size.

jorluivil · 05-24-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyz123

I've been inspected twice. One time I did not have my license on me and I thought I was going to get nailed. They checked all the hatches, asked if we had licenses, but didn't ask to see them. Off they went.

It's better to cooperate with them and not be rude. You do have your rights and it's good to know those. Most of the time they will ask if they can look, this guys sounds like he was looking for something or someone.

I've only gone out once without my license, I didn't realize it until after I got bait and was two miles out.....I turned the boat around, went to LB Sportfishing and picked up a one day license for less than I paid for bait. I lost about and hour of fishing time and wasn't boarded on other water or at the boat launch but even if I was, my ducks were back in order so I wasn't worried.

wiredantz · 05-24-2011, 07:31 PM

Nothing we can do. I see Beverly hils code enforcement do it all the time. They target the gardeners for their bus license all the time because it is the easiest to fill their quota next time I'll just put one of my kids poop diaper on my front hatch for them lol maybe I'll booby trap and I'll tell them I wouldn't open that front hatch unless you want to be touching some poops and when he opens it I will tell them I tried to warn you

dorado50 · 05-24-2011, 08:50 PM

Welcome to the united states, where common sense and civil rights are now just an afterthought. If your boarded by coast guard and inspected(for having the correct safety gear) with sucessful results you will get a sticker and/or paper stating such thus no more boardings for a year?. Unless u are suspected of any wrong doing or such. I admire the USCC they are great people doing a difficult job..

05-21-2011, 09:30 PM	#1
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	DFG STRIP SEARCH DFG DID A STRIP SEARCH ON MY KAYAK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WATER. Went out with the boys to Cabrillo Beach this morning, and i hear Tim say watch out guys DFG is on the move. DFG stops all of our small kayaks on their small raft and come pay us a visit in the middle of the ocean. I had my license out and the officer opens up my X-factor front hatch without my consent and then he wants me to open the middle hatch of my X-factor. So i told the officer i only spread my legs for my wife(well i didn't really say that but Matt told me i should of said it. So then I spread my legs and open the middle hatch to find my tackle boxes. He almost asked me to open my rear hatch but i would of told him "Your going to have to tow me back to shore to open that rear hatch and then tow me back to this spot." So they went on their way to check the private boaters. That was a close call they almost found jorluivil AKA George sleeping in the rear hatch. They could of sited me for possession of an illegal. LOL!!! Last edited by wiredantz; 05-21-2011 at 09:56 PM.

05-21-2011, 10:22 PM	#3
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	Hey Frank, you forgot to mention the part where you asked the guy to pat you down again after he was done. Something along"......try again, pat harder, you may have missed something...." They questioned me too, no big deal, but still annoying. He asked me what my target species was, since a net was not easily visible. I replied "Sandbass and Lizardfish" Nice day today. We'll get them next time.

05-22-2011, 10:13 AM	#9
Jimmyz123 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,385	I've been inspected twice. One time I did not have my license on me and I thought I was going to get nailed. They checked all the hatches, asked if we had licenses, but didn't ask to see them. Off they went. It's better to cooperate with them and not be rude. You do have your rights and it's good to know those. Most of the time they will ask if they can look, this guys sounds like he was looking for something or someone. __________________ No better time than being on the water, God Bless, JimmyZ

05-21-2011, 10:01 PM	#2
bubblehide Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 552	DFG's search rights are much broader than police officers. Police officers are required by law to ask to search unless they have probable cause; where as if you admit to fishing or hunting, or are observed fishing or hunting, they do NOT need to ask. I try to be extra legal, and can't say that I have personally had any issues with DFG; I just cooperate and everything goes smoothly. In all my years of fishing and hunting, I have only encountered 1 DFG officer that was a jerk, and in his case it was with a captiol J; but it all ended fine. I just wish I would see them out there more often. Just one question about your encounter, was it as enjoyable for you as it was for the officer?

05-22-2011, 09:46 AM	#5
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	. George lol yOu were so attentive at what I was wearing. George went out so far he was testing the limits of his h Kayak. We had to call him on the radio to make sure he was okay. He then responded by saying he was becoming one with nature.

05-23-2011, 10:37 PM	#8
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	The DFG go out there periodically and do the same check to almost everyone they see with a pole in the water. They are a little zealous sometimes, but I think it is all about getting the message out that they are "watching". I have had them trap my leg between my yak and their hull while one of them was all but diving into my front hatch. The good news is that if you cooperate, they will usually turn you on to the hot spots if you ask (that is Hot Spt, not G Spot so don't get any ideas you 2).

05-24-2011, 12:52 PM	#11
blitzburgh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Menifee Posts: 2,509	I'm all for full cooperation with DFG. But how come I never see them walk and check the Piers?

05-24-2011, 03:44 PM	#15
mtnbykr2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: newbury park ca Posts: 2,323	It's all about the money...unfortunate...my "ducks are in a row" like everyone elses I'm with Jimmy on this one...smile and nod... 12-22-and whatever else is legal if you take em home to eat...lol

05-24-2011, 07:31 PM	#19
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	Nothing we can do. I see Beverly hils code enforcement do it all the time. They target the gardeners for their bus license all the time because it is the easiest to fill their quota next time I'll just put one of my kids poop diaper on my front hatch for them lol maybe I'll booby trap and I'll tell them I wouldn't open that front hatch unless you want to be touching some poops and when he opens it I will tell them I tried to warn you

05-24-2011, 08:50 PM	#20
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Welcome to the united states, where common sense and civil rights are now just an afterthought. If your boarded by coast guard and inspected(for having the correct safety gear) with sucessful results you will get a sticker and/or paper stating such thus no more boardings for a year?. Unless u are suspected of any wrong doing or such. I admire the USCC they are great people doing a difficult job..