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Old 10-03-2011, 01:16 PM   #1
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No.
My golden waypoints are specifically to piss off the territorial diver(s), who also cut my traps & cut my buddies traps and also flipped us while hooping in the open ocean.

For the record, I don't give grief for anyones report "unless" your announcing a candy explosion on the first day. I have personally given numerous daily & timely quality reports throughout the years............................
Thanks for the reply. Like I said, it was a serious question. We kind of had the same thing up here. During our whole MLPA clusterf*** all the Sea Ranch residents were voting for the option that left Sea Ranch open (which has super restricted access to non-residents) and close the majority of the easily accessible areas. Our first thought was let's form a posse and go fish/dive the hell out of Sea Ranch from now on.
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:45 PM   #2
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Sounds to me like we need to start start carring some bricks. Trying to cut my lines take this!!! Bombs away. Then jump out my kayak so I can kick someone butt
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:49 PM   #3
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Two experienced kayakers flipped? Certainly not an accident. Slashed
ropes, not nets, that's another thing.

Thanks for the clarification on what actually happened Wade. At first
glance the story is hard to believe, so forgive me for not getting it, but,
that sucks that it happened to you guys. I was nearby, and have never
had a problem out there so its a little stunning.

I'm sure a small fleet of excited kayakers arriving together drew
unnecessary attention.

Somebody pulled this off in cold, pitch black, kelpy red tide with no dive
lights -my sense is that these were not environmentalist wackos trying to
save the lobsters.
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Old 10-03-2011, 06:22 PM   #4
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Thanks for all your valuable input Wade, Hope your shoulder gets better soon ....H
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Old 10-03-2011, 06:27 PM   #5
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Two experienced kayakers flipped? Certainly not an accident. Slashed
ropes, not nets, that's another thing.

Thanks for the clarification on what actually happened Wade. At first
glance the story is hard to believe, so forgive me for not getting it, but,
that sucks that it happened to you guys. I was nearby, and have never
had a problem out there so its a little stunning.

I'm sure a small fleet of excited kayakers arriving together drew
unnecessary attention.

Somebody pulled this off in cold, pitch black, kelpy red tide with no dive
lights -my sense is that these were not environmentalist wackos trying to
save the lobsters.
No prob Larry, any time I'm too vague & need more info let me know i tend to do that often..I never had a problem before either..I dont think its environmentalist personally either. i think its possibly some locals who have secured a solid local live well like Vons' Maine.
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:28 AM   #6
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Posted this for probably one bored local diver* unable to cope with
watching a successful hunter-kayaker while their opening night was
TOTALLY SHOT due to really crappy visibility? (* maybe?)

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Disclaimer:
I was between 30 and 100 yds from Wade and crew all night, hooping.
I think a post like this is very short-sighted, your shoulder will heal, and
the next time you get skunked here and have buoys all over your spot
you may regret posting it. Just my 2c.

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Old 10-04-2011, 04:56 AM   #7
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I'm sure a small fleet of excited kayakers arriving together drew
unnecessary attention.
I'm kind of thinking Wade doesn't flail around like a puppy dog when he's arriving to his spot (some of us others, yes, but Wade???)...Whooping it up after a good catch or a keeper bug? please...I'm picturing smooth, low key, rasta all good...unless you fugg with him...

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Please don't be outwardly aggressive to freedivers unless warranted. Most are not gonna pull any kind of crap. Personally, the last thing I want to think about is swimming into someones lines underwater. There's enough Bullsh*t day to day on land....that's not why we're all out there.
Squids, you sound like the real deal...but I gotta say most freedivers could give a rats arse about my set. Hoopers go agro because most divers will...without hesitation...go right through our sets and it does shut down bugs when it happens.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:48 AM   #8
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I love the smell of bullshit in the morning.

With all the bioluminescence there is no way a free diver could sneak up on you undetected. Even on scuba they would leave a trail of glowing bubbles.

Think about it.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:57 AM   #9
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I find it hard to believe that a diver flipped a kayak, but I was not there. I have never had a negative experience with one. They are easy to track by their light and usually come and go. If they go by a hoop or two I just assume they cannot see them. I do not think they can see to far with the visibility we encountered. We always suffer mystery damage in the shallows which I assumed was from eels or nets getting caught on sharp rocks. I have had bridle ropes cut on several occasions and wondered was might be responsible. Sunday night revealed a new culprit. I had a 60-70 lb seven gill shark get tangled in a hoop and tear it up. Like I said, I was not there, but unless you have proof keep an open mind to other possibilities.
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:16 PM   #10
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Bluesquids, you're probably right about divers being good dudes/dudettes, but we had divers (or their boat buddies) that didn't qualify as such on our Sat night bug trip in SD bay, from 2 different boats. I won't go into details, but for every group of good people there are assholes about, be they divers, fishermen or kayakers. Just see Scallywags post.
We are going to police our stuff even more closely in the future.
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:36 PM   #11
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:15 PM   #12
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but for every group of good people there are assholes about, be they divers, fishermen or kayakers. Just see Scallywags post.
We are going to police our stuff even more closely in the future.
Or the jackoffs advocating hooking divers and throwing seal bombs at them.....
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