Power pro spectra not so good? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

mrJB · 07-12-2011, 05:15 AM

The Charkbait/Shimano thing is long-standing. And it is about pricing. What doesn't make sense to me is that Charkbait sells other products at the "suggested" retail price (read FIXED price) such as Avet, etc.

Personally, I feel that the Shimano team (repair/waranty work) has always treated me as I would expect to be treated, as a valued customer. Not so much with some retail establishments.

PapaDave · 07-12-2011, 07:56 AM

I thought every manufacturer set the retail prices... I recently tried the Daiwa line, much smaller diameter then the first line I got, casts well and seems to hold it's own. A little pricey though...

The Kid · 07-12-2011, 08:10 AM

Don't believe everything people tell you. The best way to find out what works is to try it out yourself. Looking for info on the internet is cool, but it's similar to playing the waiting game for the bite to show up on the internet. Basically you're going to miss it, as well as details you wouldn't know about unless you yourself go and find out. Don't be this guy

Handymansd · 07-12-2011, 08:21 AM

I am all for supporting the products you like, but honestly as a business owner the bottom line is that it is more important to worry about what your clients think, and want to purchase than your own personal beliefs as to what someone should or should not use. If a client wants a retailers expert opinion then by all means give it, however it is just bad business to bad mouth the products you do not like: just do not endorse them. After reading his continual rants on their website about Shimano, PP, etc. I just choose to support someone more positive.

Although he does not have a Web presence, I Primarily shop from Joey down at Squidco because he has excellent customer service skills, he is always the cheapest, calls you by name, and will match Mark's Pricing on anything anytime. And he is a wealth of information!

As for Power Pro, there are fancier lines out there but remember that most of us are buying spectra for it's coarse kelp cutting ability. Smooth lines do not cut as good. Some of the other lines like JB, Izor, etc, are very nice for being smooth, casting quietly through the guides, staying knot free, and maintaining colors, but they are not quite up to par in the kelp cutting business. I have used Power Pro for more than 10 years and I have to say that I can only recall once that I cursed their line, and it was to be honest, probably more my line neglect than their product. And besides it is cheaper and more readily available than some of the other lines. Is it the best?... maybe not... but it works for me, and if it ain't broke... don't fix it.

Rant off...

bus kid · 07-12-2011, 05:24 PM

The Kid said it best. try it all find what you like and go with it. I tried the hollow power pro, yeah not tying knots was nice but JB and Izor are still my favorites.

sammysamsam · 07-12-2011, 05:55 PM

Thanks everyone for the insightful responses. There is a lot of knowledge on this forum.

dorado50 · 07-12-2011, 06:47 PM

It's ok with me that Charkbait doesn't carry Shimano products I'll just go elsewhere if in need! But what a great store for all your San Diego tackle needs. I'll take six of those' ten of them, eight of these and throw in a couple spools of JB please...

bmercury · 07-13-2011, 11:30 AM

powerpro is great. Strong, sensitive, etc...

That being said, there are much higher end braided lines than powerpro which have more strands/are rounder and thus may cast better or have other advantages.

Modern braided lines are just taking off, you can expect many advances in the future.

07-12-2011, 05:15 AM	#1
mrJB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: O.C. Posts: 352	The Charkbait/Shimano thing is long-standing. And it is about pricing. What doesn't make sense to me is that Charkbait sells other products at the "suggested" retail price (read FIXED price) such as Avet, etc. Personally, I feel that the Shimano team (repair/waranty work) has always treated me as I would expect to be treated, as a valued customer. Not so much with some retail establishments. __________________ "I Brake for Halibut"

07-12-2011, 08:21 AM	#4
Handymansd Ancient Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: On The Water Posts: 935	I am all for supporting the products you like, but honestly as a business owner the bottom line is that it is more important to worry about what your clients think, and want to purchase than your own personal beliefs as to what someone should or should not use. If a client wants a retailers expert opinion then by all means give it, however it is just bad business to bad mouth the products you do not like: just do not endorse them. After reading his continual rants on their website about Shimano, PP, etc. I just choose to support someone more positive. Although he does not have a Web presence, I Primarily shop from Joey down at Squidco because he has excellent customer service skills, he is always the cheapest, calls you by name, and will match Mark's Pricing on anything anytime. And he is a wealth of information! As for Power Pro, there are fancier lines out there but remember that most of us are buying spectra for it's coarse kelp cutting ability. Smooth lines do not cut as good. Some of the other lines like JB, Izor, etc, are very nice for being smooth, casting quietly through the guides, staying knot free, and maintaining colors, but they are not quite up to par in the kelp cutting business. I have used Power Pro for more than 10 years and I have to say that I can only recall once that I cursed their line, and it was to be honest, probably more my line neglect than their product. And besides it is cheaper and more readily available than some of the other lines. Is it the best?... maybe not... but it works for me, and if it ain't broke... don't fix it. Rant off... __________________ All men are equal before fish. -Herbert Hoover

07-12-2011, 05:24 PM	#5
bus kid Team Keine Zugehörigkeit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Way out there Posts: 2,854	The Kid said it best. try it all find what you like and go with it. I tried the hollow power pro, yeah not tying knots was nice but JB and Izor are still my favorites. __________________ Não alimente os trolls------------Don't feed the trolls---------------インタネット荒らしを無視しろ

07-12-2011, 07:56 AM	#2
PapaDave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 1,475	I thought every manufacturer set the retail prices... I recently tried the Daiwa line, much smaller diameter then the first line I got, casts well and seems to hold it's own. A little pricey though...

07-12-2011, 08:10 AM	#3
The Kid Loves Surface Irons Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 455	Don't believe everything people tell you. The best way to find out what works is to try it out yourself. Looking for info on the internet is cool, but it's similar to playing the waiting game for the bite to show up on the internet. Basically you're going to miss it, as well as details you wouldn't know about unless you yourself go and find out. Don't be this guy

07-12-2011, 05:55 PM	#6
sammysamsam Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: whittier Posts: 158	Thanks everyone for the insightful responses. There is a lot of knowledge on this forum.

07-12-2011, 06:47 PM	#7
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	It's ok with me that Charkbait doesn't carry Shimano products I'll just go elsewhere if in need! But what a great store for all your San Diego tackle needs. I'll take six of those' ten of them, eight of these and throw in a couple spools of JB please...

07-13-2011, 11:30 AM	#8
bmercury Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 103	powerpro is great. Strong, sensitive, etc... That being said, there are much higher end braided lines than powerpro which have more strands/are rounder and thus may cast better or have other advantages. Modern braided lines are just taking off, you can expect many advances in the future.