Coffee Grinder for YT? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

-scallywag- · 05-23-2011, 10:45 AM

Good point Billy!

I can't imagine trying to fight a 30lb YT on a 9ft rod with heavy drag and not using "the rail"....talk about a back breaker!!!

I'm sure with the right reel (expensive) you could stop and turn a local YT but the price, cost to service, and back-breaker fights are some neg's I can't really deal.

For a cheap mag reel for spectra take a look at the Penn 525mag. It holds about 200yrds of #65 and is rated at around 12-14lbs of drag. Charkbait had some for 100 bucks a while back...good reel for the price and easy to service.

MrPatrick · 05-23-2011, 10:54 AM

There is a video by" palm beach people" on here I believe. He pulls AJ's and sailfish with a Penn conquer. The saltwater experience guys use Quantum cabo pts reels exclusively and pull up big fish.

TCS · 05-23-2011, 11:18 AM

Thanks for the input Billy and Scally,

It did have a tennis ball.
What do you think about a levelwind?
I have heard that how the line is stacked is critical to the next cast.

Mtobolsky · 05-23-2011, 01:38 PM

Ah ha..... So that's why my back is sore... No big deal though, I have a little bit of a work out soreness and he gets a gaff shot behind the gill. I think the biggest negative is that coffee grinders are heavy....maybe not if you compare apples to apples though. My cabo has 42 lbs of smooth drag compare that to a conventional with the same drag and it would be light. The reel cast far (would be farther with a longer rod) haven't experienced the line twist issue and doesn't hurt my finger to cast (65 lb spectra). Whatever, it gets the job done nicely. I've seen guys pull on 150lb GT's and 300lb blue fin so I know they are capable.....it's just whatever your into, it's all good stuff.

chefjtwalker · 05-23-2011, 01:56 PM

Yes you can cut your fingers throwing straight spectra from a spinning real. This past February I was throwing 6-10oz plugs in panama, straight spectra no top shot, with 60 lb braid. After about 2 hours my index finger was tore up. Put some wrap on it and it helped, but had to change every hour. I had the good wrap too, the stuff vets use on animals.
Gotta say too, throwing the plugs a mile without an issue was nice. The guide I used was using all shimano gear. Not sure what models because it was all written in Japanese, cheaper to ship from Japan than US.

kayakhunter · 05-23-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -scallywag-

I can't imagine trying to fight a 30lb YT on a 9ft rod with heavy drag and not using "the rail"....talk about a back breaker!!!

X3.
Imagine you have a pig YT straight up and down and it decided to go home to the rocks or deep kelp, with spectra it would be like a bandsaw to your leg or yak.

roadx · 05-23-2011, 04:24 PM

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I'm all for guys buying a proper spinning set-up! As long as there's guys who can't cast, or simply can't cast when they actually come face to face with a full on 'foamer of feeding fish, or a Football field sized school of free-swimming fish---there's a time and place for having a nice spinning set-up if you asked me. Which is the reason why I'll be rockin' one here soon as well. While my time is incredibly inexpensive, it's valuable to me.

ok..... so..... what is a proper spinning setup? if your talking stella or van staal then i wont be getting a spinner.
which spinner in a reasonable price range is suitable?

the saltist 4500h seems to ME to have the right spool size with enough drag, how does this reel rate?

standing up i can cast very well, grew up with conventional reels (penn 500 mostly). sitting down is a different story, i havent had that much practice.

TCS · 05-23-2011, 06:28 PM

Thanks very much for all the input. A lot of people I respect have chimed in.

Here's a review of the Daiwa Saltist 6000H
http://new.stripersonline.com/forum/...-big-thumbs-up

Here's a link to a spinning rod that might be pretty solid. Look at the TMSX80XH
http://fish.shimano.com/publish/cont..._Spinning.html#

I need to make a decision and it comes down to this for me: have more fun in June and July. Have more fun later. It's not really about the money, which will dissappear anyway one way or another.

I have a nice saltist conventional, that if I put on a good jigstick I will be able to learn to use. By September.

I could pick up the reel and rod above now and have fun over the weekend. (Apparently there are fish out there)

I could also do nothing, which would suck even more than making the wrong choice.

By the way Josh, you told my I'd shoot my eye out when I got the HDS. Just to drive home the point that the gear doesn't make the fisherman good: I still see just fine and the fish I've been targeting are still happily swimming in the ocean or have been eaten by a better angler than I!

Thanks again!

dorado50 · 05-23-2011, 06:54 PM

Throwing poppers at breaking yellowfin with a spin reel is so cool. I use a shoulder harness with belt, those reels have mucho power! Spinners can really make those lures dance!! Still not sold completely on use from a kayak however...

Trident 15 · 05-24-2011, 07:03 AM

TCS Thanks for bringing up this subject I was thinking the same thing I have looked at my spinning combos 15 to 25 lb setups NOT BIG ENOUGH !

Then i looked at BPS and after an hour of looking and touching rods and reels NOTHING seemed right kinda like Josh was eluding to . Not 1 rod seemed to excite me. I will take a look at the Terramar tmsx80xh on Wednesday.

I think with the right rod , reel and ? what do you think of Vermillion Red PowerPro 50 Lb , I also have many Wax wings to Try out TOO.

P.S. i also didnt want to be that GUY with the Coffee Grinder.

Bob...............

05-23-2011, 10:54 AM	#2
MrPatrick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waiting to launch Posts: 1,381	Spinning There is a video by" palm beach people" on here I believe. He pulls AJ's and sailfish with a Penn conquer. The saltwater experience guys use Quantum cabo pts reels exclusively and pull up big fish.

05-23-2011, 10:45 AM	#1
-scallywag- Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: on the road... Posts: 598	Good point Billy! I can't imagine trying to fight a 30lb YT on a 9ft rod with heavy drag and not using "the rail"....talk about a back breaker!!! I'm sure with the right reel (expensive) you could stop and turn a local YT but the price, cost to service, and back-breaker fights are some neg's I can't really deal. For a cheap mag reel for spectra take a look at the Penn 525mag. It holds about 200yrds of #65 and is rated at around 12-14lbs of drag. Charkbait had some for 100 bucks a while back...good reel for the price and easy to service.

05-23-2011, 11:18 AM	#3
TCS Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 478	Thanks for the input Billy and Scally, It did have a tennis ball. What do you think about a levelwind? I have heard that how the line is stacked is critical to the next cast.

05-23-2011, 01:38 PM	#4
Mtobolsky Loves his member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 122	Ah ha..... So that's why my back is sore... No big deal though, I have a little bit of a work out soreness and he gets a gaff shot behind the gill. I think the biggest negative is that coffee grinders are heavy....maybe not if you compare apples to apples though. My cabo has 42 lbs of smooth drag compare that to a conventional with the same drag and it would be light. The reel cast far (would be farther with a longer rod) haven't experienced the line twist issue and doesn't hurt my finger to cast (65 lb spectra). Whatever, it gets the job done nicely. I've seen guys pull on 150lb GT's and 300lb blue fin so I know they are capable.....it's just whatever your into, it's all good stuff.

05-23-2011, 01:56 PM	#5
chefjtwalker Junior Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 9	Yes you can cut your fingers throwing straight spectra from a spinning real. This past February I was throwing 6-10oz plugs in panama, straight spectra no top shot, with 60 lb braid. After about 2 hours my index finger was tore up. Put some wrap on it and it helped, but had to change every hour. I had the good wrap too, the stuff vets use on animals. Gotta say too, throwing the plugs a mile without an issue was nice. The guide I used was using all shimano gear. Not sure what models because it was all written in Japanese, cheaper to ship from Japan than US.

05-23-2011, 06:28 PM	#8
TCS Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 478	Thanks very much for all the input. A lot of people I respect have chimed in. Here's a review of the Daiwa Saltist 6000H http://new.stripersonline.com/forum/...-big-thumbs-up Here's a link to a spinning rod that might be pretty solid. Look at the TMSX80XH http://fish.shimano.com/publish/cont..._Spinning.html# I need to make a decision and it comes down to this for me: have more fun in June and July. Have more fun later. It's not really about the money, which will dissappear anyway one way or another. I have a nice saltist conventional, that if I put on a good jigstick I will be able to learn to use. By September. I could pick up the reel and rod above now and have fun over the weekend. (Apparently there are fish out there) I could also do nothing, which would suck even more than making the wrong choice. By the way Josh, you told my I'd shoot my eye out when I got the HDS. Just to drive home the point that the gear doesn't make the fisherman good: I still see just fine and the fish I've been targeting are still happily swimming in the ocean or have been eaten by a better angler than I! Thanks again!

05-23-2011, 06:54 PM	#9
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Throwing poppers at breaking yellowfin with a spin reel is so cool. I use a shoulder harness with belt, those reels have mucho power! Spinners can really make those lures dance!! Still not sold completely on use from a kayak however...

05-24-2011, 07:03 AM	#10
Trident 15 Junior Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 20	TCS Thanks for bringing up this subject I was thinking the same thing I have looked at my spinning combos 15 to 25 lb setups NOT BIG ENOUGH ! Then i looked at BPS and after an hour of looking and touching rods and reels NOTHING seemed right kinda like Josh was eluding to . Not 1 rod seemed to excite me. I will take a look at the Terramar tmsx80xh on Wednesday. I think with the right rod , reel and ? what do you think of Vermillion Red PowerPro 50 Lb , I also have many Wax wings to Try out TOO. P.S. i also didnt want to be that GUY with the Coffee Grinder. Bob...............