LJ Conditions has it all wrong, Clipboarders are good

[dorado50]

If I catch fish Im more than willing to talk to these people when I don't they seem to irratate me!! That's just the way it is.. Great info guys. Hopefully someday I can move past the irratation phase..

[radastaff]

Originally Posted by dorado50

If I catch fish Im more than willing to talk to these people when I don't they seem to irratate me!! That's just the way it is.. Great info guys. Hopefully someday I can move past the irratation phase..

good point too

when i dont catch fish
i get irratated easily
specially when someone comes up to me after the long hard windy day
and askes me if i did
grrr

[dos ballenas]

Originally Posted by dorado50

If I catch fish Im more than willing to talk to these people when I don't they seem to irratate me!! That's just the way it is.. Great info guys. Hopefully someday I can move past the irratation phase..

agreed! I hate talking to anyone when I smell skunky!

[GregAndrew]

While I don't believe in general that the clip board crew have an agenda, the data they gather is not scientific and will create statistics that will be used inacurately against us. Surveying is much less effective in creating useful statistics when there is a low responce rate. From what I have seen at the launches, that is the case.

If the catch rates are relatively high, then we are going to be blamed for overfishing. If they are low then there are no more fish in the ocean. If 80% of anglers catch their target fish, then the other 20% will be the point of the other sides argument. In a protectionist political environment, it is better for us to provide less ammo for the other side. So the question is " Does my response provide more or less ammo to those who would close fishing?".

I don't know what the best thing for us to do is, but I am pretty sure that information obtained from these surveys will not help us catch fish. Nor will it accurately determine fish populations. I am inclined to cooperate when I catch fish and decline when I don't.

[Regor]

I've never seen "them", but I'm reading through this thread and hear assumptions going both ways, for them, against them.

Every reputable organization usually has "the" pitch that they are told to use....

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Hi, I'm Susie from Scripts Institute, and I'm here to do a survey ... blah blah blah.

Hi, I'm Joe, your local DFG officer. Here to check your catch and license.

So far I've heard no-one state who these folks really are, or who they say they are? Guess if I ever see the "clipboard lady" I'll have to pick her brain as much as she tries to pick mine

[tagyak]

not to change the subject; Regor i just noticed your avatar. all this time i thought it was just two clown fish, i didn't notice that they were painted onto two peoples cheeks.
that is really cool......

[radastaff]

Originally Posted by tagyak

not to change the subject; Regor i just noticed your avatar. all this time i thought it was just two clown fish, i didn't notice that they were painted onto two peoples cheeks.
that is really cool......

that is way cool
iam trippin on it

imagine u and ure gf/wife having those tatts
that would be crazy

[MuddyMike]

Originally Posted by Regor

So far I've heard no-one state who these folks really are, or who they say they are? Guess if I ever see the "clipboard lady" I'll have to pick her brain as much as she tries to pick mine

I met a clipboard lady coming in at Dana Landing. I asked "Who is this for?" She said DFG. She had a DFG hat and shirt on, not a uniform, just a hat with the emblem, and white shirt with the emblem. She was not driving a DFG marked car either.

[Margarita Mike]

At this point, I really don't trust any of them. Who can you believe anymore?
Sorry.

[dos ballenas]

Originally Posted by MuddyMike

I met a clipboard lady coming in at Dana Landing. I asked "Who is this for?" She said DFG. She had a DFG hat and shirt on, not a uniform, just a hat with the emblem, and white shirt with the emblem. She was not driving a DFG marked car either.

DFG wardens wear uniforms.

DFG biologists DO NOT wear uniforms, or drive state vehicles.

You guys are classic. The sky is falling the sky is falling!

Do you guys believe in medical science?

There are many people that are passionate about the ocean. Most of them do not have hidden agendas.

Yes there are flaws in the way the data is collected. Yes there are probably better ways to get better data.

We still have a lot to learn about the ocean and all its resources.

I can't figure it out: The same guys that don't trust fisheries biologists are the same guys that get excited about stuff like the satellite tagging of albacore tuna and tracking them across the ocean from Japan to the U.S. West coast.

Without fisheries research and management many of our Ca fisheries would have collapsed a long time ago.

Can you imagine what it would be like if no one ever took the time to figure out how long it takes for a Calico to reach sexual maturity? What about banning inshore drift gill nets?

A wise man once said: Its not about closures, its about proper management.

[MuddyMike]

Originally Posted by dos ballenas

DFG wardens wear uniforms.

DFG biologists DO NOT wear uniforms, or drive state vehicles.

You guys are classic. The sky is falling the sky is falling!

Do you guys believe in medical science?

Chill out man. What part of my post mentioned I doubted her.

I was responding to the other post about people asking who they were. I had no reason to doubt she was taking data for DFG.