Anyone have experience with Avet Mag cast reels? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Billy V · 03-13-2011, 01:03 PM

I've got a lot of MC Avets so I will try to give you my opinion.
6 JXMC, 1 JX6/3MC, 1 MXLMC, 1 MXJMC, 1 HXMC, 1 ProEXW30 w/no mc

In the heat of the moment when you need that perfect cast without a birds nest its a good choice. You can get a good long cast with a JX wearing 30 or 40 lb. or an MXL wearing 25 or 30 lb.

The downside is use on a kayak. They don't like to be sloshed with saltwater from launching and landing. This is because the spool bearings are open sided.
Thats good from a service standpoint, but bad due to exposure in a hostel kayak environment.

I don't usually carry my avets on the kayak - but sometimes I will, like in the summer when surface Iron action is ON.

I service my avets myself, and do it frequently because it very easy to do. Its just something that goes with the terrain.

I mostly use a Dawia Sealine X40 or a Saltist 35 or 40 on the kayak. They are my all time favorite No BS Reels.

The SealineX 40 has a spool that is 50 grams lighter than an avet JX, so you will get a good long cast with a little practice and less energy exerted. There is also a big shoulder on the spool to ride while controlling the spool with your thumb.
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On a boat Avets they are great. If you use them within the parameters of the manufacturers drag settings (which most people do).

I always disassemble my avets when new and drop all the bearings and parts in a kerosene wash to remove any machining crap - and its in there most times. I dry the parts with compressed air and assemble using reel x in the bearings for the spool, and Cal's grease on the gears.

Once the bearing are broken in, they will sizzle off some great cast - birds nest free.
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Boca Bearing makes Abec 7 ceramic bearing for some of the avets. I installed a set for a friend but haven't tried them myself yet. Insane free spool.

Hypoxic1 · 03-13-2011, 02:26 PM

Thanks Josh for the reminder. Skills and time on the water are cannot be substituted with newfangled technology.
I guess I will become a better Caster.

Now to find a new jig stick.

Ulua Josh?

hmmmm

bellcon · 03-13-2011, 06:28 PM

No advice here on the reel question...
but it was good meeting you the other day Chris,

you tsunami fishing fool

robmandel · 03-14-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy V

I mostly use a Dawia Sealine X40 or a Saltist 35 or 40 on the kayak. They are my all time favorite No BS Reels.

The SealineX 40 has a spool that is 50 grams lighter than an avet JX, so you will get a good long cast with a little practice and less energy exerted. There is also a big shoulder on the spool to ride while controlling the spool with your thumb.

I have a slew of sealines, use them for everything. upgraded them with greased carbon fiber drags, and with them, they're good for anything, anywhere under 100lbs. and they are as good a casting reel as can be found.

josh' pic above with the big jig stick is really informational. so much of casting is the rod. throwing iron, you need a softer, more parabolic rod. watch all the casting competitions, or look at breakaway rods for instance. all the good jig/casting sticks, they are softer and really load up. that's the key. a good rod is going to go a long ways towards helping casting, both distance and backlashes. and learn good technique casting them too. don't overpower the rod. let it do the work for you. problem with a good jig stick though is they are heavier and tiring to throw for a long time. and they have way less leverage on a fish and can tire you out on a couple of nice fish. graphite, which is much lighter is not the best for jig sticks, but way less tiring and better on leverage. so, I guess the MC is helpful there.

I casted the MC avets at FH. very nice indeed. where I see them helpful is tossing live bait off the rail. not the terribly necessary on a kayak.

Billy V · 03-14-2011, 11:02 AM

You hit the nail on the head Rob. Its all about the jig stick and how it releases its energy.
I have to thank/blame Josh for inciting this obsession with long rods.

In the last few years I have acquired many different jig sticks, 8 ft. to 12 ft. and had the opportunity to test them all until I found what I like best.

I never thought I would end up where I did - preferring the action of a 50 year old fiberglass jig stick over what is available today. This in itself poses a problem because they don't make them anymore, and if by some miracle the company were re-opened today, and the the men were alive to build them - the materials would not be the same to construct the rods the way they were back in the day.

bubblehide · 03-14-2011, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy V

You hit the nail on the head Rob. Its all about the jig stick and how it releases its energy.
I have to thank/blame Josh for inciting this obsession with long rods.

In the last few years I have acquired many different jig sticks, 8 ft. to 12 ft. and had the opportunity to test them all until I found what I like best.

I never thought I would end up where I did - preferring the action of a 50 year old fiberglass jig stick over what is available today. This in itself poses a problem because they don't make them anymore, and if by some miracle the company were re-opened today, and the the men were alive to build them - the materials would not be the same to construct the rods the way they were back in the day.

Bill, with the advent of spectra and short top shots, the rod makers recognize the need for softer/slower actions/rods that load up, there accomplishing this by using composite materials, and blending/using multiple materials within a rod. So if you look, you can now find some super light jig sticks with characteristics of the old tried and true fiberglass rods of the past.

03-13-2011, 01:03 PM	#1
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	I've got a lot of MC Avets so I will try to give you my opinion. 6 JXMC, 1 JX6/3MC, 1 MXLMC, 1 MXJMC, 1 HXMC, 1 ProEXW30 w/no mc In the heat of the moment when you need that perfect cast without a birds nest its a good choice. You can get a good long cast with a JX wearing 30 or 40 lb. or an MXL wearing 25 or 30 lb. The downside is use on a kayak. They don't like to be sloshed with saltwater from launching and landing. This is because the spool bearings are open sided. Thats good from a service standpoint, but bad due to exposure in a hostel kayak environment. I don't usually carry my avets on the kayak - but sometimes I will, like in the summer when surface Iron action is ON. I service my avets myself, and do it frequently because it very easy to do. Its just something that goes with the terrain. I mostly use a Dawia Sealine X40 or a Saltist 35 or 40 on the kayak. They are my all time favorite No BS Reels. The SealineX 40 has a spool that is 50 grams lighter than an avet JX, so you will get a good long cast with a little practice and less energy exerted. There is also a big shoulder on the spool to ride while controlling the spool with your thumb. ------------------------ On a boat Avets they are great. If you use them within the parameters of the manufacturers drag settings (which most people do). I always disassemble my avets when new and drop all the bearings and parts in a kerosene wash to remove any machining crap - and its in there most times. I dry the parts with compressed air and assemble using reel x in the bearings for the spool, and Cal's grease on the gears. Once the bearing are broken in, they will sizzle off some great cast - birds nest free. ------------------------ Boca Bearing makes Abec 7 ceramic bearing for some of the avets. I installed a set for a friend but haven't tried them myself yet. Insane free spool. __________________

03-13-2011, 02:26 PM	#2
Hypoxic1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oceanside Posts: 215	Uh, I guess I stand corrected. Thanks Josh for the reminder. Skills and time on the water are cannot be substituted with newfangled technology. I guess I will become a better Caster. Now to find a new jig stick. Ulua Josh? hmmmm

03-13-2011, 06:28 PM	#3
bellcon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Pedro Posts: 999	No advice here on the reel question... but it was good meeting you the other day Chris, you tsunami fishing fool __________________

03-14-2011, 11:02 AM	#5
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	You hit the nail on the head Rob. Its all about the jig stick and how it releases its energy. I have to thank/blame Josh for inciting this obsession with long rods. In the last few years I have acquired many different jig sticks, 8 ft. to 12 ft. and had the opportunity to test them all until I found what I like best. I never thought I would end up where I did - preferring the action of a 50 year old fiberglass jig stick over what is available today. This in itself poses a problem because they don't make them anymore, and if by some miracle the company were re-opened today, and the the men were alive to build them - the materials would not be the same to construct the rods the way they were back in the day. __________________ Last edited by Billy V; 03-14-2011 at 11:50 AM.