New to fishing bays out of yak how do you fish 4-5 inch swimbaits? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

yaknewb · 01-30-2011, 10:55 PM

So iv fished swim baits from shore i jus got a yak and jus been long lineing a 4 inch big hammer and jus raising the tip every so often. its been some what productive some sand bass small halibuts and of course spotties. Im wondering if there anouther way of fishing them or is what im doing is a good way of going about it.

Rockin1904 · 01-31-2011, 06:31 AM

What works fro me is slow retrieving it through the grass

Jimmyz123 · 01-31-2011, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by yaknewb

So iv fished swim baits from shore i jus got a yak and jus been long lineing a 4 inch big hammer and jus raising the tip every so often. its been some what productive some sand bass small halibuts and of course spotties. Im wondering if there anouther way of fishing them or is what im doing is a good way of going about it.

You're doing what is good. What I like to do is a long lining thing. I'll drop the bait down and then back paddle or paddle long enough to drop about 100 to 150 yards of line off. Make sure your bait is weighted right with the current so that it stays closer to the bottom. Then slowly reel back in. If you don't get bit then do it again and alter your speed to find what the fish are hitting and repeat.

The other way is cast out, let it sink and then crank back in altering your speeds.

I also like to dead stick them, cast out, let it hit the bottom, and then bounce along the bottom. The key to this is do what you can that gets you bit. I like having a T-rigged bait out and a C-rigged bait out. I'll cast the C-rigged bait out, let it sink, and let the movement of the boat give the bait life. I get my bigger fish that way. Most of all Use Uni-butter on your baits and that will increase you strikes.

Iceman · 01-31-2011, 08:45 AM

don't rule out the 3" BH in the shallower harbors under 30 feet. I vary with what you are doing with steady winding just ticking the bottom. Also try spinnerbaits in white or chartreuse 3/4-1.5oz, Zoom Flukes and sled heads are great around hook grabbing structure. Bugz makes a great weedless jig.

Jimmyz123 · 01-31-2011, 09:02 AM

I agree with Iceman also. The larger baits tend to produce larger fish at times, but you will find the smaller baits will produce more and you will get just as big of fish.

yaknewb · 01-31-2011, 10:44 AM

Sweet thanks for the tips about the spinnerbaits i was told if i bounce the bigger heavyer baits off the bottom i can hook into the larger halibuts and big sand bass. Im asking about the bigger bait cus i fish with two rods and one is a ultra lite drop shoting a fluke that cacths fish big and small i wana use bigger baits on the other pole for bigger fish...

Riskey Water · 01-31-2011, 12:10 PM

In the deeper water I like to use 1 1/2oz or 2 oz long shank hooks ,seeing how halis like to short bite, the long shanks seem to produce more hook-ups .Fish on brother ,everyone has their own technique ,so what ever works for you

roadx · 01-31-2011, 06:41 PM

in the bay (mission bay) a good producer has been the 3" bleeding chovie with 1/4 oz head by big hammer also try spinner baits, you know the one's they use for fresh water bass, willow blades/ Colorado blades both work well in sliver or gold or combo

good luck

Amish Ed · 01-31-2011, 08:35 PM

One of the most productive retrieves for me is to cast out, once the bait hits the bottom start a 3/3 pattern. 3 cranks, let the bait settle back to the bottom, 3 count rest, and repeat. Once the bait starts taking too long to hit the bottom I either let out a bunch of line (if I'm still in the right area and there's current) or wind in and start over.

Definitely don't forget the 3" baits, I've scored lots of bigger bass and legal butts on them. Blades are great too. One of my favorites is the Hyspin, turns most (eye has to be big enough) any leadhead into a spinner bait. This last year I've done really well with the spotties with a 3" Flurry and a Hyspin. In fact I don't carry any other blade these days.

My other favorite is a Yamamoto Swimin' Senko. Either Texas rigged or on a Sleadhead. Like Andy said Zoom super flukes on a Sleadhead are great. That's my go to bait for boilers and kelp.

Sdfisherman88 · 02-01-2011, 01:14 PM

What is the best way to retrieve T-Rigged flukes? How heavy of a weight do you use on them?

Amish Ed · 02-01-2011, 02:24 PM

I use the same retrieves and throw in a rod twitch here or there. 1/4oz bullet for less 25' and 1/2 for deeper. If the current is ripping I'll use the 1/2 in shallow too.

MrPatrick · 02-01-2011, 03:24 PM

The dropshot is also a killer in the bay, especially deep.

01-30-2011, 10:55 PM	#1
yaknewb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 143	New to fishing bays out of yak how do you fish 4-5 inch swimbaits? So iv fished swim baits from shore i jus got a yak and jus been long lineing a 4 inch big hammer and jus raising the tip every so often. its been some what productive some sand bass small halibuts and of course spotties. Im wondering if there anouther way of fishing them or is what im doing is a good way of going about it.

01-31-2011, 08:45 AM	#4
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,943	don't rule out the 3" BH in the shallower harbors under 30 feet. I vary with what you are doing with steady winding just ticking the bottom. Also try spinnerbaits in white or chartreuse 3/4-1.5oz, Zoom Flukes and sled heads are great around hook grabbing structure. Bugz makes a great weedless jig. __________________

01-31-2011, 06:41 PM	#8
roadx . Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,155	in the bay (mission bay) a good producer has been the 3" bleeding chovie with 1/4 oz head by big hammer also try spinner baits, you know the one's they use for fresh water bass, willow blades/ Colorado blades both work well in sliver or gold or combo good luck __________________

01-31-2011, 08:35 PM	#9
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,903	One of the most productive retrieves for me is to cast out, once the bait hits the bottom start a 3/3 pattern. 3 cranks, let the bait settle back to the bottom, 3 count rest, and repeat. Once the bait starts taking too long to hit the bottom I either let out a bunch of line (if I'm still in the right area and there's current) or wind in and start over. Definitely don't forget the 3" baits, I've scored lots of bigger bass and legal butts on them. Blades are great too. One of my favorites is the Hyspin, turns most (eye has to be big enough) any leadhead into a spinner bait. This last year I've done really well with the spotties with a 3" Flurry and a Hyspin. In fact I don't carry any other blade these days. My other favorite is a Yamamoto Swimin' Senko. Either Texas rigged or on a Sleadhead. Like Andy said Zoom super flukes on a Sleadhead are great. That's my go to bait for boilers and kelp. __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

02-01-2011, 02:24 PM	#11
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,903	I use the same retrieves and throw in a rod twitch here or there. 1/4oz bullet for less 25' and 1/2 for deeper. If the current is ripping I'll use the 1/2 in shallow too. __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

01-31-2011, 06:31 AM	#2
Rockin1904 Junior Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 24	What works fro me is slow retrieving it through the grass

01-31-2011, 09:02 AM	#5
Jimmyz123 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,385	I agree with Iceman also. The larger baits tend to produce larger fish at times, but you will find the smaller baits will produce more and you will get just as big of fish.

01-31-2011, 10:44 AM	#6
yaknewb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 143	Sweet thanks for the tips about the spinnerbaits i was told if i bounce the bigger heavyer baits off the bottom i can hook into the larger halibuts and big sand bass. Im asking about the bigger bait cus i fish with two rods and one is a ultra lite drop shoting a fluke that cacths fish big and small i wana use bigger baits on the other pole for bigger fish...

01-31-2011, 12:10 PM	#7
Riskey Water Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: On the water ofcourse Posts: 142	In the deeper water I like to use 1 1/2oz or 2 oz long shank hooks ,seeing how halis like to short bite, the long shanks seem to produce more hook-ups .Fish on brother ,everyone has their own technique ,so what ever works for you

02-01-2011, 01:14 PM	#10
Sdfisherman88 Junior Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 13	What is the best way to retrieve T-Rigged flukes? How heavy of a weight do you use on them?

02-01-2011, 03:24 PM	#12
MrPatrick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waiting to launch Posts: 1,381	Don't forget..... The dropshot is also a killer in the bay, especially deep.