MLPA Public Comment! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

John M · 10-19-2010, 03:00 PM

Add me to the list.
John

zenspearo · 10-19-2010, 03:59 PM

Speaking Points:

The Watermen's Alliance crew has been working their hineys off. Speaking points are ready for everyone in the fishing community if they need it.

If you don't have a speaking point, come up to the Watermen's Alliance table and get one. Some friendly faces will be at the table.

Ceding Time/Needing time:

This aspect needs some explanation for you newbies. The Commission gives everyone a tiny amount of time based on how many public members show up. To get that time, you must fill out a time card.

There are two ways you can use a time card: To speak, or to cede time (not both).

If you want to speak and only need the tiny amount of time given to you (think one minute or two at most), then you are set.

If you want to speak and need MORE than the tiny amount of time given to you, you will need ceded time cards from others who don't speak. Come up to the WA table and get hooked up with ceded time cards.

If you don't want to speak and want to cede time cards to fishing-friendly speaker, come to the WA table, give us your time card (thank you thank you!) and your cell phone #. The speaker assigned your time card will call you and make sure each team of speaker/ceded persons is together when it's time for the speaker to speak. In some meetings, they require this so be ready to get together with your speaker to make your ceded time card count.

Three possible options. It's that simple.

General Note:

We will try something new this meeting. We will ask all ceding persons for their cell phone #s (provided on a post-it note). We will staple the post-it note to your ceding time card. The speaker given your time card will tear off the post-it note and use it to coordinate with you via the cell phone # you provided.

If you really really really want to give your time card to a particular person, then let us know but it is really hard since people wander around and we have only a small time window to coordinate hundreds of speaking cards with dozens of speakers. Pairing a particular ceding time card with a particular speaker is time consuming.

Trust us that we only dole out time cards to fishing friendly speakers.

The fishing-friendly speaker who got your ceding time card will call you on your cell to gather up all the people who ceded time to him/her. That way, when the Commission calls that speaker, all the people ceding time will know who your speaker is, and can raise their hands to support that speaker if the Commission asks (in the past, a ceding time card only counts if the person ceding time raise his hand as present at the meeting at the time his speaker comes up to speak).

Pizza, T-shirt, drinks, etc. Come to WA table. We have it set up. We'll hook you up.

Be civil, polite, and speak with reason or at least tempered and reasoned passion. Don't rant. The other side WILL truck in students. You can expect massive pro-closure turn-out as they are trying for last-minute enlargement of many areas. Many of the students have no idea why they are there except it's a freebie school trip. We think it's sleazy but be mindful that children are present. If we come across as intimidating belligerent rants, the Commissioners sympathy won't be with us for long.

roadx · 10-19-2010, 05:05 PM

curious??? if a decision is made on 10-19-10 for one of the SCRSG maps, how will that effect the maps for round 1 opel A&B maps scheduled for 9-3-11.

how long will the maps stay in place until they are re-reviewed? i see there is an SCRG scheduled for 9-10-22. so does that mean a SCRSG map will be in place for 12 years??

can someone clarify how a current decision can effect future maps?

thanks

GregAndrew · 10-19-2010, 05:20 PM

I may be wrong, but I think you are talking about maps from 2 different sections. We had a round 1 opel group when this first started, so I assume they have a similar group for the beginning of the northern section of Ca. We are well beyond round 1 in the Southern section.

tylerdurden · 10-19-2010, 06:33 PM

Bump

We are getting the band back together.

I will be speaking. If anyone likes to fish LJ, and doesn't know what to say I could use the time.

Tman · 10-19-2010, 06:36 PM

Another Bump...

Add another name to the list, Clay's friend Julian...

robmandel · 10-19-2010, 06:47 PM

I'll be there. wouldn't miss it for the world.

I'll be wearing a tank sporting some of tattuna's amazing artwork

10-19-2010, 03:59 PM	#2
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	Speaking Points: The Watermen's Alliance crew has been working their hineys off. Speaking points are ready for everyone in the fishing community if they need it. If you don't have a speaking point, come up to the Watermen's Alliance table and get one. Some friendly faces will be at the table. Ceding Time/Needing time: This aspect needs some explanation for you newbies. The Commission gives everyone a tiny amount of time based on how many public members show up. To get that time, you must fill out a time card. There are two ways you can use a time card: To speak, or to cede time (not both). If you want to speak and only need the tiny amount of time given to you (think one minute or two at most), then you are set. If you want to speak and need MORE than the tiny amount of time given to you, you will need ceded time cards from others who don't speak. Come up to the WA table and get hooked up with ceded time cards. If you don't want to speak and want to cede time cards to fishing-friendly speaker, come to the WA table, give us your time card (thank you thank you!) and your cell phone #. The speaker assigned your time card will call you and make sure each team of speaker/ceded persons is together when it's time for the speaker to speak. In some meetings, they require this so be ready to get together with your speaker to make your ceded time card count. Three possible options. It's that simple. General Note: We will try something new this meeting. We will ask all ceding persons for their cell phone #s (provided on a post-it note). We will staple the post-it note to your ceding time card. The speaker given your time card will tear off the post-it note and use it to coordinate with you via the cell phone # you provided. If you really really really want to give your time card to a particular person, then let us know but it is really hard since people wander around and we have only a small time window to coordinate hundreds of speaking cards with dozens of speakers. Pairing a particular ceding time card with a particular speaker is time consuming. Trust us that we only dole out time cards to fishing friendly speakers. The fishing-friendly speaker who got your ceding time card will call you on your cell to gather up all the people who ceded time to him/her. That way, when the Commission calls that speaker, all the people ceding time will know who your speaker is, and can raise their hands to support that speaker if the Commission asks (in the past, a ceding time card only counts if the person ceding time raise his hand as present at the meeting at the time his speaker comes up to speak). Pizza, T-shirt, drinks, etc. Come to WA table. We have it set up. We'll hook you up. Be civil, polite, and speak with reason or at least tempered and reasoned passion. Don't rant. The other side WILL truck in students. You can expect massive pro-closure turn-out as they are trying for last-minute enlargement of many areas. Many of the students have no idea why they are there except it's a freebie school trip. We think it's sleazy but be mindful that children are present. If we come across as intimidating belligerent rants, the Commissioners sympathy won't be with us for long. __________________ A spearo, but we are in this MLPA mess together Last edited by zenspearo; 10-19-2010 at 04:35 PM.

10-19-2010, 05:05 PM	#3
roadx . Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,155	curious??? if a decision is made on 10-19-10 for one of the SCRSG maps, how will that effect the maps for round 1 opel A&B maps scheduled for 9-3-11. how long will the maps stay in place until they are re-reviewed? i see there is an SCRG scheduled for 9-10-22. so does that mean a SCRSG map will be in place for 12 years?? can someone clarify how a current decision can effect future maps? thanks __________________ Last edited by roadx; 10-19-2010 at 05:16 PM.

10-19-2010, 06:33 PM	#5
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Bump We are getting the band back together. I will be speaking. If anyone likes to fish LJ, and doesn't know what to say I could use the time. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

10-19-2010, 06:36 PM	#6
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Another Bump... Add another name to the list, Clay's friend Julian... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

10-19-2010, 03:00 PM	#1
John M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Escondido Posts: 89	Add me to the list. John

10-19-2010, 05:20 PM	#4
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	I may be wrong, but I think you are talking about maps from 2 different sections. We had a round 1 opel group when this first started, so I assume they have a similar group for the beginning of the northern section of Ca. We are well beyond round 1 in the Southern section.

10-19-2010, 06:47 PM	#7
robmandel Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 186	I'll be there. wouldn't miss it for the world. I'll be wearing a tank sporting some of tattuna's amazing artwork