Warning about Baja Travel

[wavster]

Jimmy,

I had heard of similar stories on my trip. A Romanian family
I met in Punta Chivato told me that their medications were
stolen as well as some expensive camping gear. The guards
commented on how nice some of their gear was and when
the inspection was over, they realized that stuff was missing.

Here's what I learned while I was there and it seems to work:
1. Be sure to have all documents and cash on your person. Do
not leave it in the vehicle.

2. Keep all doors locked and only unlock doors that they
request. Otherwise, you can easily be over run by 3 guards
rummaging through your stuff simultaneously.

3. Stand directly adjacent the soldier searching your vechicle.
If he knows you're looking over his shoulder, he may be less
inclined to swipe something. If there are multiple people in the car
each person should stay where they were seated and watch what is
going on. The Romanian family mentioned above did not stand by
their vehicle when it was searched. They stood off to the side in
the shade.

4. Keep everything in a container. Loose stuff is easily pocketed. They
will only search so many of your containers. I personally had everything
in dry bags, and they only opened 1 on average when inspected.

Now, this is just what worked while I was down there, but being vigilant
is what its all about.

Aside from that, I met some of the nicest people on this trip and to
be honest with you, the Mexicans I met were much friendlier than
most of the Americans I met.

[Thresher_Cowboy]

Mexican officials stole money from you? Sad, but not surprised. Whoever said the same things happen in the states that happen in Mex, is dead wrong. When's the last time a park ranger stole money out of your car? Commonplace in Mex, there's two incidents in this thread alone.

[Jimmyz123]

In all the years that I have gone down there, we had a 5th wheel once that would take down there. Still I can't believe that I did not watch this guy more closely. My wife called the tourism board this morning and she was transferred to an organization that takes care of things like this and they took the report and are going to investigate the issue. Will we get our money back? Probably not. Will this really do any good? No. Will we go down there again? Yes. Will I do things differently next time? You better believe it.

My wife said we should have gone to Vegas instead at least she could of had a chance to double her money before losing it.

[jorluivil]

I've gone to San Quintin three twice in the past year, two solo runs and one with family. I've never had an issue but always keep an eye out for anything suspicious....especially when I'm riding solo. I've been pulled out of my truck twice but have ALWAYS remained close enough to my vehicle so that I could see what was going on. I always carry all my cash in my pocket right next to my passport.

I always try to stay one step ahead of the crooks. Unforetunately, you let your guard down for a second and they took advantage of it. Its no different from forgetting to lock your car doors when you go to the store. How many fishing reports have you read about someone in LJ getting something ripped off from their vehicle while they were out fishing? It all goes back to securing your personal effects and staying one step ahead of these dirt bags.

[Jimmyz123]

Originally Posted by jorluivil

I've gone to San Quintin three twice in the past year, two solo runs and one with family. I've never had an issue but always keep an eye out for anything suspicious....especially when I'm riding solo. I've been pulled out of my truck twice but have ALWAYS remained close enough to my vehicle so that I could see what was going on. I always carry all my cash in my pocket right next to my passport.

I always try to stay one step ahead of the crooks. Unforetunately, you let your guard down for a second and they took advantage of it. Its no different from forgetting to lock your car doors when you go to the store. How many fishing reports have you read about someone in LJ getting something ripped off from their vehicle while they were out fishing? It all goes back to securing your personal effects and staying one step ahead of these dirt bags.

You said it perfectly. Had I stayed right with the guy the entire time this probably would not have happened.

My wife spent the trip taking fault that she put the money in that bag. I told her she is not at fault the guys just knew how to rook us.

Once we talked to the Tourism board today about what happened we were told all of our rights and obligations as far as what they are allowed to search, they really cannot tell everyone to get out of the car, and we were told to always stay with the person who is inspecting the car so that there is someone watching everything they are doing. The puesta De Control is partially funded by the U.S. government to help tourists feel safer, and that's why they are now investigating the issue.

I'm not scared to go back down there, I just know better what I'm going to do while traveling down there from now on.

[Dean Machine]

Originally Posted by Jimmyz123

Will we get our money back? Probably not. Will this really do any good? No.

Might not do as much good as we would all like but at least those inspectors were put through the motions. You may have temporarily deterred them from doing this to someone else.

[Jimmyz123]

Originally Posted by Dean Machine

Might not do as much good as we would all like but at least those inspectors were put through the motions. You may have temporarily deterred them from doing this to someone else.

You're right about that, maybe this will open the eyes of those involved, and maybe if the heat is coming down on them someone will sing like a bird and spill the bean. Either way it's nice to know there is a service that is out there to help anyone who is traveling South of the Border.

Here's the link:
http://www.discoverbajacalifornia.com/078.php

I'm glad I know about this now.

[-scallywag-]

what you experienced sounds like SOP, even the "shake down search".

Wavesters tips are on the money, I would also like to add a few:

- Have all the small valubles in one place, I use a backpack and take it out with me during the inspections

- Have "gifts" available, cold sodas, cigs, fruit, snacks...and my personal favorite PORN !! Nothing will get you thru checkpoints faster than a stack of good hardcore porn mags (don't try to pawn off your old harry bush playboy crap on um) on or under your seat where they can easily be found...once they see those the search is over and you're on your way....just make sure you have more stashed somewhere else incase they want the whole stack.

[dorado50]

Good advice. Like some, all my $ and valueables are on me. That way if someone wants it bad enough they will have a hard time taking it from me. Only open one door at a time,great advice right there....can't wait to road trip back down nov.(fall yt off the hook at santa rosalia).

[BOOGIE]

I have a better one, dont come, if your going to be all freaki and scared you ar not going to enjoy your self, i really dont agree with the chek points but sadly we came to this point, the military is not prepared to deal with cibillian matters , i really dont know aboutt anny park ranger stole monney from anny one, butt the hole world has seen your soldiers rape and kill inocent women and children, and laugh on ther faces and film them an them post them on you tube , i guess thats a normal behabior for you and your fammily, and you dont see nothing rong wiht it,this is a more complex problem i might belong to a corrupt third world country as you say but to have a corrupt you have a gay giving the brive, we dont have enuff money to brive cos we are so poor an third world an that shit... so if you dont like it here dont come and is not baja is Baja California.

[THE DARKHORSE]

Originally Posted by -scallywag-

what you experienced sounds like SOP, even the "shake down search".

Wavesters tips are on the money, I would also like to add a few:

- Have all the small valubles in one place, I use a backpack and take it out with me during the inspections

- Have "gifts" available, cold sodas, cigs, fruit, snacks...and my personal favorite PORN !! Nothing will get you thru checkpoints faster than a stack of good hardcore porn mags (don't try to pawn off your old harry bush playboy crap on um) on or under your seat where they can easily be found...once they see those the search is over and you're on your way....just make sure you have more stashed somewhere else incase they want the whole stack.

Fanfreakintastic' advice Scallywag!
With all this sound advice I'll add one more good one: drive a piece of $hit car and you'll blend right in. I won't even ride in my friends $40,000 trucks with toys in the back---no way in hell!

And as much as caravaning with your friends seems like a great idea, with more than one 40,000 truck packed full of goodies---you just attract bigger and badder thieves. Ya' know, organized crime, guys who really do this for a living?
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And while I've had a gun pointed in my face, witnessed horrible accidents that no one reported and payed my share of hard earned cash---to the cops.

Where else are you going to find empty pointbreaks within driving range? I know where I'll be when the next real, South swell hits. Viva Mexico!

[Dean Machine]

Originally Posted by Thresher_Cowboy

Mexican officials stole money from you? Sad, but not surprised. Whoever said the same things happen in the states that happen in Mex, is dead wrong. When's the last time a park ranger stole money out of your car? Commonplace in Mex, there's two incidents in this thread alone.

I've had stuff stolen from my bags at the airport before. Some people have had stuff stolen from their hotel rooms. That's not to say I've decided whether or not I would travel in Mexico.

[Anthony179]

Originally Posted by Thresher_Cowboy

Mexican officials stole money from you? Sad, but not surprised. Whoever said the same things happen in the states that happen in Mex, is dead wrong. When's the last time a park ranger stole money out of your car? Commonplace in Mex, there's two incidents in this thread alone.

I'm the one that said that. Shit happens anywhere you go. I don't know if you ever heard about the family that made a wrong turn in the city of Highland Park. This family was driving at night and made one wrong turn and the whole family got shot. Can't remember how many people died. Murders and roberries happen everywhere. The police out here are also crooks. Listen to the song " Fuck The Police" by N.W.A. You'll listen to what happens to certain people that don't live in a high class area.

This thread was about what happen to one person who traveled to Baja California to let people know that travel down south to be carefull. Not for you guys to start talking bad about every Mexican that live out their.

I went to San Quintin on August 18-21. We had to stop at a check point and was asked were we where headed to, what's in the back of the truck. Looked in the back and told us good luck and enjoy. We didn't have any problems this time. But we also know the risks of traveling to Mexico. But you can't let that keep you from having fun.

[Jimmyz123]

Originally Posted by Anthony179

I'm the one that said that. Shit happens anywhere you go. I don't know if you ever heard about the family that made a wrong turn in the city of Highland Park. This family was driving at night and made one wrong turn and the whole family got shot. Can't remember how many people died. Murders and roberries happen everywhere. The police out here are also crooks. Listen to the song " Fuck The Police" by N.W.A. You'll listen to what happens to certain people that don't live in a high class area.

This thread was about what happen to one person who traveled to Baja California to let people know that travel down south to be carefull. Not for you guys to start talking bad about every Mexican that live out their.

I went to San Quintin on August 18-21. We had to stop at a check point and was asked were we where headed to, what's in the back of the truck. Looked in the back and told us good luck and enjoy. We didn't have any problems this time. But we also know the risks of traveling to Mexico. But you can't let that keep you from having fun.

I have to agree with this post. What happened to my family was a pain, and it sucked, but it won't stop us from going down to San Felipe. I just know better what to do, and I know what my rights are per the Tourism Board that we called. Understanding that will help us a lot. I now will only open 1 door at a time, I will stay with the guy checking the car, and I will learn the language. We have a lot of friends down there that are willing to assist us if needs be, and I will call on them if needs be from now on.

[Aaron]

I don't give a shit either way, but you cited "Fuck the Police" by N.W.A. to prove your point which is quite simply fucking epic. Pretty sure at least a few of them weren't always straight gangsta though...


Look at Dre...bhahahahaha!

Originally Posted by Anthony179

I'm the one that said that. Shit happens anywhere you go. I don't know if you ever heard about the family that made a wrong turn in the city of Highland Park. This family was driving at night and made one wrong turn and the whole family got shot. Can't remember how many people died. Murders and roberries happen everywhere. The police out here are also crooks. Listen to the song " Fuck The Police" by N.W.A. You'll listen to what happens to certain people that don't live in a high class area.

This thread was about what happen to one person who traveled to Baja California to let people know that travel down south to be carefull. Not for you guys to start talking bad about every Mexican that live out their.

I went to San Quintin on August 18-21. We had to stop at a check point and was asked were we where headed to, what's in the back of the truck. Looked in the back and told us good luck and enjoy. We didn't have any problems this time. But we also know the risks of traveling to Mexico. But you can't let that keep you from having fun.

[Anthony179]

Originally Posted by Aaron

I don't give a shit either way, but you cited "Fuck the Police" by N.W.A. to prove your point which is quite simply fucking epic. Pretty sure at least a few of them weren't always straight gangsta though...


Look at Dre...bhahahahaha!

That is a funny picture.