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Old 07-16-2010, 06:40 PM   #1
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i sent that asshole a message on Facebook, I think hell get the message...

Thsi crap is exactly what thsi state is up against... enviormental nazi party folks.

They have to LIE to push there Agenda... People like this need to be hung

The guys on Meg Whittmans website replying to peoples post questioning Meg Whitmans stance on the MLPA...

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Old 07-16-2010, 08:50 PM   #2
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The guys on Meg Whittmans website replying to peoples post questioning Meg Whitmans stance on the MLPA...
Meg Whitman has a stance on the MLPA? What is it? I have been hounding her for months on this issue with no response.

If she has stated a position, please share the link.

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Old 07-16-2010, 10:02 PM   #3
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Meg Whitman has a stance on the MLPA? What is it? I have been hounding her for months on this issue with no response.

If she has stated a position, please share the link.

Bob
don't expect one from her. she's a political hack. but, for the sake of your time, I'll give you her position.

she supports fishing and supports conservation efforts. she respects the differing positions and realizes there's no easy solution. she recognizes that although the MLPA process was not perfectly clear, open, and without issues, it was nonetheless a difficult and arduous task, and she respects the members of the various task forces for the efforts. and she respects the various members of the public who came forward to offer their voices and support for the varying proposals. she desires a balance between environmental and economic interests, and supports a healthy balance, a compromise between the two. while california needs to promote a healthy business climate, neglecting california's wonderful ecosystem would be imprudent.

in other words, she says everything and nothing. she's like all the rest. and even if she does say the right things, once in office, she'll turn us around, bend us over, and give it to us without so much as a reacharound. (btw, I belong to no political party. I hate them all. I'm a proud [little "L"] libertarian.)

right now california is falling into the shitter faster than a malibu mudslide after a rainy season. there are serious issues that the next governor has to deal with, like our bonds being junk status, our streets looking like tijuana, our cities looking like mogadishu, public employee unions running the state, and $400 billion, or thereabouts of a deficit. the mlpa is like #512 on the list of top things to deal with.

as for the sportboat BS, once again, the guys a lying mofo. I've been on hundreds of boats, and I've NEVER seen that happen. they're not perfect, but they do a damn good job. but, as they say, repeat a lie enough times...
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Old 07-17-2010, 07:58 AM   #4
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did you have to go there... really now

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Old 07-17-2010, 09:55 AM   #5
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Rob is 100% right, Look at her position on more national spotlighted issues like Illegal immigration.

She tells people one thing....then on telemundo as well as during the world cup games puts adds out in spanish saying the other thing. That is a classic politician. At least jerry brown says shit he means what hes saying. however crazy and rediculously liberal it may sound...

You can try to get kayakfisherman together and try to pressent the MLPA as an issue and get her support for it etc. Its a little late in the game for that.

The MLPA is a pretty easy concept to understand for people who havent been involved in the process. Thats why you get people like this Eric Brickenstien... running a muck flapping there jaws and making shit up. I called him out on Facebook, I asked him what sport boats he was a deckhand on, and whos he knows from La Jolla Kayak Tours. And why hes located in Santa Barbara. Many of his added "friends" have some pretty hardcore charged Enviormental propaganda all over there pages.

our enemys in this process have to lie and cheat there way to winning. That guy is a perfect example of that... Making shit up on politicians websites.

Here you can read more of this guys crap on the direct link, I poste din response to it a couple times.
http://talktomeg.ning.com/forum/topi...ource=activity

Basically its a guy who was asking for what meg whitmans stance ont he MLPA would be, hes a norcal guy. and the enviormental Erick Brickenstien comes in to save the day for the envios
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:30 PM   #6
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You can try to get kayakfisherman together and try to pressent the MLPA as an issue and get her support for it etc. Its a little late in the game for that.
I have been trying to get a response out of Whitman's campaign for months. I have sent several emails which explain the MLPA issue and ask for a statement of her position. No response. I have also called her offices and spoken to a bunch of people. Everyone in the Whitman campaign whom I have spoken with told me that someone would be getting back to me soon with answers to my questions. Yeah... right.

To be fair, I got the same lack of response from Brown's campaign.

I think that this is one of those issues that these politicians simply want to ignore. If they take a position, they are going to piss off some potential voters so why chance it.

Maybe my efforts are just a waste of time. Even if I got a hand signed letter from Meg telling me that she was in our camp, what would that be worth. The first time the political winds started to blow the other way, she would probably jump ship and support the other side. After all, she has spent more money than the annual budget of the DFG trying to will this election. Why risk screwing things up by actually listening to the citizens.

When I started trying to pin down some politicians on this issue, PAL told me that I would get really frustrated trying to get something out of Whitman and Brown. Well, Paul was right. I'm there.

Maybe if hundreds of people sent letters and emails on this subject, we might get some attention but a single voice during an election campaign makes as much noise as a tree falling in a distant forest.

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