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Old 04-01-2010, 01:26 PM   #1
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nice scallywag.. sounds good... keep me posted.. this sounds like a blast..
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Old 04-01-2010, 05:41 PM   #2
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YFT on the Nine Mile Bank! This would be the year for that sort of thing. Not the type of adventure to enter into lightly. Maybe a group effort or with a support boat.

With the MLPA closures all of us will need to become long range experts.
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Old 04-01-2010, 06:44 PM   #3
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how far to the dorado come in? ive grown up fishing in charleston for sails woos dorado marlin etc but heck you had to run out 40 miles at the closest to even have a shot at them... so being here now im feeling kinda spoiled to have a new target species and much closer grounds.. 9miles aight shheeeeeet... as far as being a newbie all beta much appreciated.... id really like to see if we can get this tuna thing going sounds like a blast..

dgax65... are the MLPA closures still in debate or are they a go? sorry to be a FNG..
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:40 PM   #4
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how far to the dorado come in? ive grown up fishing in charleston for sails woos dorado marlin etc but heck you had to run out 40 miles at the closest to even have a shot at them... so being here now im feeling kinda spoiled to have a new target species and much closer grounds.. 9miles aight shheeeeeet... as far as being a newbie all beta much appreciated.... id really like to see if we can get this tuna thing going sounds like a blast..

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Here is the link to the BRTF Integrated Preferred Alternative plan: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/scsr_submaps_ipa.pdf

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Old 04-02-2010, 04:13 AM   #5
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how far to the dorado come in? ive grown up fishing in charleston for sails woos dorado marlin etc but heck you had to run out 40 miles at the closest to even have a shot at them... so being here now im feeling kinda spoiled to have a new target species and much closer grounds.. 9miles aight shheeeeeet... as far as being a newbie all beta much appreciated.... id really like to see if we can get this tuna thing going sounds like a blast..

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I caught a dorado at the la jolla kelp(there was almost none that year)in 97 on a slow trolled mack.I was fishing the sw drop off in 150 Feet of water...it was a dink of about 5# and i had to let it eat the mack for two minutes to hook it! Before that it bit the mack three or four times and I set the hook fast for nothing.Dorado are very voracious fish...they have to be they grow at astounding rates and have a short life.
getting out to the nine in a kayak.....get real and get a boat with a motor!
you might be able to do it ,but you can kill your self many other much more pleasurable ways!
that being said you don't always have to go that far for either tuna or marlin.....but then someone wins the lotto every few weeks too!
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Old 04-02-2010, 07:17 AM   #6
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how far to the dorado come in? ive grown up fishing in charleston for sails woos dorado marlin etc but heck you had to run out 40 miles at the closest to even have a shot at them... so being here now im feeling kinda spoiled to have a new target species and much closer grounds.. 9miles aight shheeeeeet... as far as being a newbie all beta much appreciated.... id really like to see if we can get this tuna thing going sounds like a blast..

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Two years ago the Dodos were being caught from the 182 as far west as the La Jolla Kelp. A buddy and caught 3 within 10 miles of Point Loma due west.

Unless you are trained up enough I would recommend having a buddy or setting up a guide to drive you most of the way out and back. Almost like a mother ship trip. Maybe if the fish are close enough we can get some 3/4 mother ship trips chartered. I'd pay for a spot on that boat.
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or you can save the energy, live on the edge (F'n cartels), and caravan down to the East Cape with me on October 1st on a two week excursion in pursuit of Dorado which are a couple hundred yards off shore and YFT within a mile of shore....One truck going so far with a kayak and a skiff and no MLPA BS to worry about
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or you can save the energy, live on the edge (F'n cartels), and caravan down to the East Cape with me on October 1st on a two week excursion in pursuit of Dorado which are a couple hundred yards off shore and YFT within a mile of shore....One truck going so far with a kayak and a skiff and no MLPA BS to worry about
Now that sounds like fun.
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Old 04-02-2010, 12:36 PM   #9
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or you can save the energy, live on the edge (F'n cartels), and caravan down to the East Cape with me on October 1st on a two week excursion in pursuit of Dorado which are a couple hundred yards off shore and YFT within a mile of shore....One truck going so far with a kayak and a skiff and no MLPA BS to worry about

How much money do you need for a trip like that?
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:23 PM   #10
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How much money do you need for a trip like that?
We are planning on camping at this point while we are down there to keep the cost down and I would expect to be spending somewhere around 600.00 (gas, mexican insurance, fishing license, food, beers, ice). However, there are some cool places you can rent down there that are not too expensive and close to some unbelievable fishing
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Old 04-02-2010, 05:56 PM   #11
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how far to the dorado come in? ive grown up fishing in charleston for sails woos dorado marlin etc but heck you had to run out 40 miles at the closest to even have a shot at them... so being here now im feeling kinda spoiled to have a new target species and much closer grounds.. 9miles aight shheeeeeet... as far as being a newbie all beta much appreciated.... id really like to see if we can get this tuna thing going sounds like a blast..

dgax65... are the MLPA closures still in debate or are they a go? sorry to be a FNG..
I think if you want something strong to pull on, besides the aforementioned seabass and yellowtail, thresher's are much closer to shore then YFT and dorados and during certain times of the year much easier to find and hook. Due to the nature of the currents off our coast the layer of warm water in late summer/fall is relatively shallow and the result is the Dorado and YFT are sporadic visitors; sometimes they only show up for one week and when they do they have lockjaw not biting anything. Then you get an offshore wind, the water temp drops due to upwelling, and the YFT/dorado disappear.

Having fished for YFT and dorado's out of Dana Point on my boat, I would definitely be very cautious about going for them on a kayak off our coast. For one, you need to cover a lot of water to find them; not all kelp paddies have the dorado and you can spend a whole day looking for kelp paddies which from a kayak are very hard to see. In the case of YFT, you spend a lot of time chasing the dolphins (mammal) and getting in the right spot to bait the tuna. When this is happening, there are a lot of other power-boaters out there doing the same, so is does get crowded and for a kayaker, dangerous. The size of the YFT are not in the 200 lb range; more in the 15 to 30 lb range.

The other problem is you can be 5 - 6 miles offshore and the fog rolls in around you. Then just getting back to shore may be the primary concern.

I am not saying it cannot be done, but off the Southern California coast you are not likely to find a 200 lb tuna, the season is unpredictable, you need to pay attention to the SST charts, plan to paddle out at least 5 miles from shore before you start looking, and you will more often then not need to cover a lot of water over a lot of days just to get the chance to hook either fish.

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