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Old 12-29-2009, 05:53 PM   #1
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look scallywag you can lay off the rant cuz i really dont care about your self ritghteous love for threshers. the fact is it I like to eat threshers and I target fish under 200# because anthing larger is near impossable to land on a kayak and what am I going to do with 200+ pounds of steaks. plus I only keep one or two threshers a year. the fact is I only keep what im going to eat and if you have a problem with that then sorry. O and for the record I did bleed the shark and I also grilled some that same night and it was great. Jimday thank you very much and I really appreciate all your info. thanks to everyone els who saw this post for what it really was. A REPORT. so please save your lectures for some1 who cares (scallywag)
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Old 12-29-2009, 06:10 PM   #2
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Jim Day thank you very much and I really appreciate all your info.
Cool... I'm glad you didn't take offence.

My take on your catch is it's a legal catch, and if you want to take one that is your business. It's not like you were out in a skiff hammering the sh!t out of them.

I wish the DFG would change some regs and put a size limit on them but until then more power to you.

I'm just blown away your out there in shorts I would of been freezing my ass off

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Old 12-31-2009, 11:35 AM   #3
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Cool... I'm glad you didn't take offence.

My take on your catch is it's a legal catch, and if you want to take one that is your business. It's not like you were out in a skiff hammering the sh!t out of them.

I wish the DFG would change some regs and put a size limit on them but until then more power to you.

I'm just blown away your out there in shorts I would of been freezing my ass off

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Hell Ya i was cold as all hell.
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Old 12-29-2009, 06:27 PM   #4
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look scallywag you can lay off the rant cuz i really dont care about your self ritghteous love for threshers. the fact is it I like to eat threshers and I target fish under 200# because anthing larger is near impossable to land on a kayak and what am I going to do with 200+ pounds of steaks. plus I only keep one or two threshers a year. the fact is I only keep what im going to eat and if you have a problem with that then sorry. O and for the record I did bleed the shark and I also grilled some that same night and it was great. Jimday thank you very much and I really appreciate all your info. thanks to everyone els who saw this post for what it really was. A REPORT. so please save your lectures for some1 who cares (scallywag)
You told me you got one that was 400lbs from your x-factor!!
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Old 12-29-2009, 06:42 PM   #5
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Thresher Jack 1st. Place Fish 586 lbs. My crazy cousins from Jersey. - several fish were released that day.

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Old 12-29-2009, 08:18 PM   #6
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No worries from me Chris, I for one know that you are a good and knowlegable(sp)fisherman....nice report
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:27 AM   #7
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Jim, those T-s are huge! Especially the male you caught off DP.

I personally don't harvest the T-s I catch, mainly because I don't have the reefer space, and secondly because they are just such a damn good looking fish. But I won't turn down any of the meat given to me, because they make the best freeking fish taco's. Maybe one day I'll keep one, who knows? To me its for the sport and I get a big hard-on just watching them swim away. But for those who keep them, no worries from me...just pass me a bag of meat every now and then!
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:31 AM   #8
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Jim,
Very interesting take on keeping the big vs. the small. Definitely makes me rethink my usual train of thought that the big breeders are the ones to leave alone. What's the deal with mercury levels in the big ones though? Those big threshers have been around a long time eating and bioaccumulating. I think I'd rather feed the neighbor's wife and kids with a smaller one, at least from a health perspective.

I think the more important idea is to try and only keep males, that is if you want to harvest threshers. They are VERY easy to identify with those huge claspers no matter what their size. Game managers have been managing deer and other large game for a long time by only allowing the harvest of males, and it seems to work well for the population. Maybe the same should happen with some species of sharks?
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:20 PM   #9
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JWhat's the deal with mercury levels in the big ones though? Those big threshers have been around a long time eating and bioaccumulating...... I think the more important idea is to try and only keep males, that is if you want to harvest threshers.
Those are both good points.

You know it's kind of weird for me as it's such an old issue for me. I just posted kind of the same thing I've been saying for over a decade.

Honestly I've not been keeping up or looking for new information when it comes to T's and Mercury. The last thing I read on mercury was a few years ago and it said that adult T sharks were not as bad as tuna or swordfish when it comes to bio-magnification, but that's now old information.

As to the male shark idea: Yes you are absolutely right if if you want to harvest sharks, it's preferable that you only take males. I should of said something about that in my post. Females carry the young one male can mate with many females.


You might find this interesting but I feel the same way about lobsters. Same idea one male can mate with many females. I occasionaly keep smaller females when hooping is very slow but if possible I release all my females and never keep big females over three pounds. The larger the tail the more eggs they can protect and carry. On the other and I have no problem killing big males as larger males are canibilistic and eat their own young.

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Old 12-31-2009, 11:45 AM   #10
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You told me you got one that was 400lbs from your x-factor!!
and yes i did land one that big, but after getting it tailed i was at a loss of how i was going to get it back to land. luckly a boater was passing by and stoped to check me out. he offered to tow me in and I took it.in return i gave him about 50# of steaks. WILL NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. Sharks over 200# are better released from a yak.
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