they might be back some day.

[esdees]

"Populations of lobster, sea urchin, squid, sea bass, yellowtail and swordfish have all been in sharp decline."

Really? Where did they come up with that?

[robmandel]

Originally Posted by esdees

"Populations of lobster, sea urchin, squid, sea bass, yellowtail and swordfish have all been in sharp decline."

Really? Where did they come up with that?

same place they came up with all the BS global warming data.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/74019.html

Official government measurements show that the world's temperature has cooled a bit since reaching its most recent peak in 1998.

it's about fear, it's about politics. it's about MONEY!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ene...llionaire.html

Last year Mr Gore's venture capital firm loaned a small California firm $75m to develop energy-saving technology.


The company, Silver Spring Networks, produces hardware and software to make the electricity grid more efficient.



The deal appeared to pay off in a big way last week, when the Energy Department announced $3.4 billion in smart grid grants, the New York Times reports. Of the total, more than $560 million went to utilities with which Silver Spring has contracts.

folks, this isn't about a bunch of yahoos (please, no offense intended by me) on plastics rafts fishing for a few scaly creatures. this is way freaking bigger. the environmental movement is nothing about the "environment" but about destruction of freedom and capitalism.

[-scallywag-]

I was reading into the the fine print last night and realized that the citys in which these MPA are placed could be held financially responsible for run off pollution and sewer spills that affect the MPA's water quality. I'm afraid to see what will happen when the MPA's don't reach thier stated goals in five years...its gonna be like "see, told ya so! we need more closeures! get those wetsuit pee'in, body oil leachin, stingray killin surfers outta there, and all those people on the beach leave thier trash and pollute the water....get'um all outta here!!! (but please don't worry about my malibu estaite's septic system that leaches human waste directly into the maibu creekbed and closes the whole area everytime it rains...)"

[bluesquids]

But.. but...if all the fishermeanies could just become vegans...Ya Know?
Then all the fishies can swim and be happy, because ...Ya know you can't plant seeds inside poor little fishies Ovaries like you can just plant tomato seeds.
Seriously, any vegan should not of been let in thru the door. PETA types should not have a say in the outcome. People in the world eat meat! GET OVER IT!
Oh...and BTW regarding WSB ovaries...
Fecundity determined from artificial propagation attempts (CDFG 1994) ranges from 760,000 to 1.5 million eggs per female, per batch (CDF&G 2002),

and some females have been reported to spawn more than once per season (CDF&G 2002).

[Billy V]

Originally Posted by bluesquids

But.. but...if all the fishermeanies could just become vegans...Ya Know?

You mean like some of those BRTF Members ?
-A few of them still eat fish -if you know what I mean.

-They also know where to buy the cheapest diesel fuel.
http://www.sandiegogasprices.com/ind...imit=48&list=0





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Disclaimer- Any statements made in this post are for entertainment purposes only, and not directed at any life forms. Even if it has a remarkable resemblance to the truth.

[bentrod1]

this is just one step in a long line of political maneuvering that will impose restrictions on any outdoor activity that involves humans enjoying nature. These bleeding heart do-gooders would sooner let a f@$k'n terrorist out of prison due to some (justified) "human rights violation" than let you or I fish in an ocean or ride a motorcycle in the desert for fear of running over some godforsaken reptile (have you seen how big the F'ng desert is - how 'bout the ocean?)

If they want to impose restrictions, how about getting these cattle boat captains and crew to stop bagging every fricken fish that's caught. Catch and release isn't in their vocabulary because they want people on the docks to see their patrons exiting the boat with a 1/8 pound bag of filleted 12" calico's.

Hang on tight all - socialism is alive and well in the USSA and we are losing our rights, our right to feed ourselves with our catch. Before we know it we'll be standing in line for a ration of tuna and a loaf of bread.

[WahooUSMA]

Hang on tight all - socialism is alive and well in the USSA and we are losing our rights, our right to feed ourselves with our catch. Before we know it we'll be standing in line for a ration of tuna and a loaf of bread.[/QUOTE]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjFB...eature=related

Socialism is here now! Just check out the GOAT-F&^% Maxine Waters! Such a 'trowel'. Hang on tight is right!

[driftwood]

Originally Posted by esdees

"Populations of lobster, sea urchin, squid, sea bass, yellowtail and swordfish have all been in sharp decline."

Really? Where did they come up with that?

"restrictions to help restore species, catches of which have dropped up to 95%."

were did they come up wth this?? 95% dropped?

[habanero]

I think they get all their "facts" from pier and dock fishing experts.

[Pescavore1]

Originally Posted by driftwood

"restrictions to help restore species, catches of which have dropped up to 95%."

were did they come up wth this?? 95% dropped?

It's a blatant lie and a propaganda. I'm pretty sure they know this fact: if you tell a lie and keep repeating it, no matter how big the lie is, people will eventually come to believe it.

[Ohana]

Originally Posted by Pescavore1

It's a blatant lie and a propaganda. I'm pretty sure they know this fact: if you tell a lie and keep repeating it, no matter how big the lie is, people will eventually come to believe it.

This is so true. In political battle facts/statistics are part of the footnotes and influencing emotions wins the war. A lot of organizations supporting the MPA also funded the drive to stop using animals for drug testing; regardless of what you show in numbers such as millions of lives were saved but 50 lab rats were killed, all it takes is one picture of an animal in a lab cage with a tube in its body to sway peoples emotions (= voters) to support a ban on such testing. So they know what to do to get political support for their position.


Kevin

[ccoral]

in short I would like to stick in Megs bu;t