Thank you - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

tylerdurden · 11-11-2009, 05:28 AM

Thanks Paul and all of our RSG members.

I don't know if we can ever repay you for what you have done.

Holy Mackerel · 11-11-2009, 06:53 AM

Paul, MJ, and everyone who spent any time fighting for us. You all have my gratitude, and respect!

Grego · 11-11-2009, 06:59 AM

Caught this at the MLPA Fundraiser Tourney...remember?

Matt · 11-11-2009, 07:05 AM

Grego that photo looks a bit photo shopped

hahaha just kidding!!

The fight isn't quite over boy and girls, we still have the dfg meeting, and possibly more(?)

Thanks to Paul et. al. and everyone that helped I was proud to stand by you all!!

Lots of fog in el norte dontcha think???

-scallywag- · 11-11-2009, 08:34 AM

Thanks Paul!!!

I loved the "outburst" questioning the definition source of "quality kelp"...then SAT's explanation of quality kelps?? substraits, media, low relief, high relief??
Couldn't they just say "its the same type of kelp growing on a different type of rocky bottom with less dropoffs"...but then i guess EVERYONE would know that the SAT is full of $h!t...i wonder if any of those fat cows have actually been on a boat with a sonar in the N.Pt loma/S.L.J areas let alone dive it!!! could you imagine seeing that fat SAT guy trying to get in a wetsuit

All of this reminds me of the "open and transparent public process based on scientific data" that was used to "relocate" millions of native americans when the Army Corp of Engineers and the Bureau of Reclamation went dam (the kind that creates a reservoir) crazy....that was in the 30's so this public anal raping process is nothing new, at least we forced them to use a dab of vasiline this time!

Willy · 11-11-2009, 08:58 AM

This land is your land (no it isn't)
This land is my land (liberal government)
From California, and the New York island
From the redwood forest, to the Gulf stream waters...
This land once belonged to you and me.

Great job all on fighting this one out.

Civil disobediance may be our last and only hope.
A massive protest after any closures take effect...hundreds of kayaks, boats, divers, fishermen go right into the new closure areas and fish fish fish in a show of force.

See you on the water,
Willy

Useful Idiot · 11-11-2009, 09:11 AM

We knew we were doomed from the get go, but if it wasn't for guys like Paul, MJ, Tyler, Chris, Billy V, you can be sure it would've been a lot worse. And the numbers of kayak fishermen that showed up to these meetings was unbelievable. Private boaters on other sites are admitting how indebted they are to us kayak fishermen for representing.

Let's hope the FGC is receptive to changes in the map. Perhaps a very specific email campaign to the FGC members is in order? I mean specific geography changes. Save the "closures are unfair" type of rhetoric, I think a direct, specific, united request for a select number of changes to the map would have the best chance of any impact. Thoughts from the pros?

dos ballenas · 11-11-2009, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useful Idiot

I think a direct, specific, united request for a select number of changes to the map would have the best chance of any impact. Thoughts from the pros?

to everyone who made it to LA.

Only a few simple changes would need to happen. Allow pelagics is on the top of my list...

habanero · 11-11-2009, 09:45 AM

Thank you Paul for your unrelenting sacrifice for this relatively small group of "consumptives".

It's not hard to imagine how much worse things would have turned out if the kayak community had not applied as much pressure as we did

We could have lost all access to what I consider the crown jewel for kayak fishing.
If restrictions on motorized boats only were on the table, I wonder what the opposition landscape would look like?

kurt · 11-11-2009, 09:12 AM

We might have done better in the process if we hadn't all ceded our time to Grego to talk about his halibut!

Swampthing · 11-11-2009, 06:59 AM

I'm a waterfowl hunter and fisherman and am new to the kayak fishing game and this board. When I came to California from the South 15 years ago, a wildlife area manager from Fish and Game warned me that this kind of thing (MLPA) was on the horizon, and that people were dedicated to us never casting a line or taking game anywhere in this state. Man, he was not kidding.

Those of you who dedicated your time and tallent defending our lifestyle and rights have my respect and gratitude. I did what I was able to at the time, and I would like to join you and help out for the next round of actions, be it meeting with DFG or civil disobedience in the water.

Get some rest and thank you again. We owe you.

11-11-2009, 05:28 AM	#1
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Thanks Paul and all of our RSG members. I don't know if we can ever repay you for what you have done. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

11-11-2009, 07:05 AM	#4
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	Grego that photo looks a bit photo shopped hahaha just kidding!! The fight isn't quite over boy and girls, we still have the dfg meeting, and possibly more(?) Thanks to Paul et. al. and everyone that helped I was proud to stand by you all!! Lots of fog in el norte dontcha think??? __________________ Thanks Matt F.

11-11-2009, 09:11 AM	#7
Useful Idiot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 286	We knew we were doomed from the get go, but if it wasn't for guys like Paul, MJ, Tyler, Chris, Billy V, you can be sure it would've been a lot worse. And the numbers of kayak fishermen that showed up to these meetings was unbelievable. Private boaters on other sites are admitting how indebted they are to us kayak fishermen for representing. Let's hope the FGC is receptive to changes in the map. Perhaps a very specific email campaign to the FGC members is in order? I mean specific geography changes. Save the "closures are unfair" type of rhetoric, I think a direct, specific, united request for a select number of changes to the map would have the best chance of any impact. Thoughts from the pros? __________________

11-11-2009, 09:12 AM	#10
kurt Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: 2 inches above sea level Posts: 503	We might have done better in the process if we hadn't all ceded our time to Grego to talk about his halibut! __________________ "All I got was a rock"

11-11-2009, 06:59 AM	#11
Swampthing Junior Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rancho San Diego, CA Posts: 1	Much Gratitude I'm a waterfowl hunter and fisherman and am new to the kayak fishing game and this board. When I came to California from the South 15 years ago, a wildlife area manager from Fish and Game warned me that this kind of thing (MLPA) was on the horizon, and that people were dedicated to us never casting a line or taking game anywhere in this state. Man, he was not kidding. Those of you who dedicated your time and tallent defending our lifestyle and rights have my respect and gratitude. I did what I was able to at the time, and I would like to join you and help out for the next round of actions, be it meeting with DFG or civil disobedience in the water. Get some rest and thank you again. We owe you.

11-11-2009, 06:53 AM	#2
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Paul, MJ, and everyone who spent any time fighting for us. You all have my gratitude, and respect!

11-11-2009, 06:59 AM	#3
Grego Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 446	Caught this at the MLPA Fundraiser Tourney...remember?

11-11-2009, 08:34 AM	#5
-scallywag- Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: on the road... Posts: 598	Thanks Paul!!! I loved the "outburst" questioning the definition source of "quality kelp"...then SAT's explanation of quality kelps?? substraits, media, low relief, high relief?? Couldn't they just say "its the same type of kelp growing on a different type of rocky bottom with less dropoffs"...but then i guess EVERYONE would know that the SAT is full of $h!t...i wonder if any of those fat cows have actually been on a boat with a sonar in the N.Pt loma/S.L.J areas let alone dive it!!! could you imagine seeing that fat SAT guy trying to get in a wetsuit All of this reminds me of the "open and transparent public process based on scientific data" that was used to "relocate" millions of native americans when the Army Corp of Engineers and the Bureau of Reclamation went dam (the kind that creates a reservoir) crazy....that was in the 30's so this public anal raping process is nothing new, at least we forced them to use a dab of vasiline this time!

11-11-2009, 08:58 AM	#6
Willy Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: La Jolla Posts: 189	This land is your land (no it isn't) This land is my land (liberal government) From California, and the New York island From the redwood forest, to the Gulf stream waters... This land once belonged to you and me. Great job all on fighting this one out. Civil disobediance may be our last and only hope. A massive protest after any closures take effect...hundreds of kayaks, boats, divers, fishermen go right into the new closure areas and fish fish fish in a show of force. See you on the water, Willy

11-11-2009, 09:45 AM	#9
habanero Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SD Posts: 133	Thank you Paul for your unrelenting sacrifice for this relatively small group of "consumptives". It's not hard to imagine how much worse things would have turned out if the kayak community had not applied as much pressure as we did We could have lost all access to what I consider the crown jewel for kayak fishing. If restrictions on motorized boats only were on the table, I wonder what the opposition landscape would look like?