MLPA meeting highlights / lowlights in real time - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

PAL · 10-22-2009, 04:22 PM

Still fighting over the OC wedge. It does a number on free divers. the boundaries are impossible to figure out from the water unless you have it mapped on your GPS. Overall kayak fishing out of Newport and Dana are looking good. There's nothing at Doheny or the headlands. the SMCAs allow all finfish. The issue is the entire span of Laguna north of the Aliso outfall.

JoeBeck · 10-22-2009, 04:30 PM

Damn guidelines, they keep coming up. They did not listen to the people about the social economic impact. A shame for California.

"It does not restrict access it just means these people will not be able to fish"

tylerdurden · 10-22-2009, 04:33 PM

Meg Caldwell just doesn't get it on the access issue. We need fishing/spearing only areas with no surfing, scuba, or swimming. Then the other side will know how we feel.

B Slate · 10-22-2009, 04:43 PM

How can anyone say any reserve does not restict access. Yet they said it multiple times

MVC · 10-22-2009, 04:51 PM

I would feel good about the whole system if those people from Laguna would get hosed. I can't believe that they would propose to close their entire coast. Alot of compromise there.

joyjiggin' · 10-22-2009, 04:57 PM

More updates???????

tylerdurden · 10-22-2009, 05:00 PM

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More updates???????

We got screwed over bad in some areas. Others are not too bad. They just went in and totally messed up the maps.

They can't make decisions when they are not prepared to do it. It looks like no IPA will be made today.

In each region the BRTF has a couple different options for closures. They will decide between those choices, and make an IPA.

The decision will be made at a 1 day BRTF meeting in the LA area around November 10th.

PAL · 10-22-2009, 05:06 PM

OMFG - they just put this thing on pause. We'll be back on Nov 10 somewhere in the LAX area. It may be time to rally the troops again. this is really a round 4 with BRTF alternatives.

Signing off now to head home. Guys, we need to crank it back up.

bender0240 · 10-22-2009, 05:00 PM

Paul Lebowitz They are talking about a day long meeting in Los Angeles in November.

bender0240 · 10-22-2009, 05:05 PM

Paul Lebowitz This next one day meeting is tentatively for Nov 10 in the LAX area, 9:30 to 5:00 pm.

Well at least it's not when MOST of us are working. Goddamn these people.

Gino · 10-22-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MVC

I would feel good about the whole system if those people from Laguna would get hosed. I can't believe that they would propose to close their entire coast. Alot of compromise there.

They are the cupcake city. Thier police department drives hybird cars and ATVs. Its really easy to make them pay for thier elitism, dont give them any of your buisness. not 1 penny.

2 laguna lady who came into the laguna beach mettign with the 2 dead gardibaldi is perfect example. DFG didnt wirt her a citation. why is she the exception?

After living in Dana Point for over 10 years, growing up there. and beign a frequent customer in thier city. no more for me.

Tman · 10-22-2009, 04:56 PM

This is all utter nonsense...and they know it. That is the reason they had their tables set the way they were, to garner 'respect' and to let everyone know that they were in control. The rules were their's all along, they just had to play it out for appearance sake.

All you anti-fishers, you are seriously clueless, and when the SD/OC/LA economy starts taking a hit, and the DFG cuts back even more, and the price per pound for fish and lobster rise, we will make it a point to thank you with a

salute, Bloody Decks style.

Gino · 10-22-2009, 04:33 PM

I wont spend a dime of money in Laguna ever again. regardless of the outcome, they city council there obviously doesnt welcome buisness.

theres a reason why thier is no fishign /tackle stores in Laguna, the City wont give you the permit. bunch of fruitcakes

Tman · 10-22-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gino

I wont spend a dime of money in Laguna ever again. regardless of the outcome, they city council there obviously doesnt welcome buisness.

theres a reason why thier is no fishign /tackle stores in Laguna, the City wont give you the permit. bunch of fruitcakes

We will have to definitely have a Kayak Fishing/Spearfishing Tournament BBQ at Laguna...soon. And make sure you buy everything you need for the BBQ beforehand...you cannot shop in Laguna for anything.

Here we come Laguna...to take your fish, fill your trash cans, and not spend a stinkin' dime in your city...and make sure there's TP in the public bathrooms for us...

joyjiggin' · 10-22-2009, 05:00 PM

I never thought we'd get Laguna, that's where "Friends of the Seals," are, they are all tree-huggers at their best.

Gino · 10-22-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tman

We will have to definitely have a Kayak Fishing/Spearfishing Tournament BBQ at Laguna...soon. And make sure you buy everything you need for the BBQ beforehand...you cannot shop in Laguna for anything.

Here we come Laguna...to take your fish, fill your trash cans, and not spend a stinkin' dime in your city...and make sure there's TP in the public bathrooms for us...

Hell Tman, ill bring the TP for everyone! I'm down to get soemthign started.

10-22-2009, 04:33 PM	#3
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Meg Caldwell just doesn't get it on the access issue. We need fishing/spearing only areas with no surfing, scuba, or swimming. Then the other side will know how we feel. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th. Last edited by tylerdurden; 10-23-2009 at 07:36 AM.

10-22-2009, 04:56 PM	#12
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	This is all utter nonsense...and they know it. That is the reason they had their tables set the way they were, to garner 'respect' and to let everyone know that they were in control. The rules were their's all along, they just had to play it out for appearance sake. All you anti-fishers, you are seriously clueless, and when the SD/OC/LA economy starts taking a hit, and the DFG cuts back even more, and the price per pound for fish and lobster rise, we will make it a point to thank you with a salute, Bloody Decks style. __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

10-22-2009, 04:22 PM	#1
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	Still fighting over the OC wedge. It does a number on free divers. the boundaries are impossible to figure out from the water unless you have it mapped on your GPS. Overall kayak fishing out of Newport and Dana are looking good. There's nothing at Doheny or the headlands. the SMCAs allow all finfish. The issue is the entire span of Laguna north of the Aliso outfall.

10-22-2009, 04:30 PM	#2
JoeBeck Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 370	Damn guidelines, they keep coming up. They did not listen to the people about the social economic impact. A shame for California. "It does not restrict access it just means these people will not be able to fish"

10-22-2009, 04:43 PM	#4
B Slate Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: La Verne Posts: 92	How can anyone say any reserve does not restict access. Yet they said it multiple times

10-22-2009, 04:51 PM	#5
MVC Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Costa Mesa Posts: 278	I would feel good about the whole system if those people from Laguna would get hosed. I can't believe that they would propose to close their entire coast. Alot of compromise there.

10-22-2009, 04:57 PM	#6
joyjiggin' Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 109	More updates???????

10-22-2009, 05:06 PM	#8
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	OMFG - they just put this thing on pause. We'll be back on Nov 10 somewhere in the LAX area. It may be time to rally the troops again. this is really a round 4 with BRTF alternatives. Signing off now to head home. Guys, we need to crank it back up.

10-22-2009, 05:00 PM	#9
bender0240 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 118	Paul Lebowitz They are talking about a day long meeting in Los Angeles in November.

10-22-2009, 05:05 PM	#10
bender0240 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 118	Paul Lebowitz This next one day meeting is tentatively for Nov 10 in the LAX area, 9:30 to 5:00 pm. Well at least it's not when MOST of us are working. Goddamn these people.

10-22-2009, 04:33 PM	#13
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 520	I wont spend a dime of money in Laguna ever again. regardless of the outcome, they city council there obviously doesnt welcome buisness. theres a reason why thier is no fishign /tackle stores in Laguna, the City wont give you the permit. bunch of fruitcakes