Round 3 maps are up. - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

stuppid · 09-28-2009, 02:28 PM

Whichever one is the worst for the greatest amount of people will be the on that passes. Has anyone ever considered that there is no regulation that you have to have a GPS onboard your vessel? How are they going to enforce the closures? How are you supposed to know if you are within the closure or not? If you are fishing 1000' inside of a closure and fish and game roll up and ticket you what evidence will they bring to court? Will their GPS observations hold up in court? Will it have to be calibrated periodically like a radar gun? They would have to sneak up on you and catch you fishing to give you a ticket. You can posess fish and fishing gear while in a closure. I know that if I am a mile and a half off shore even with binoculars they will have a hard time knowing whether I am fishing or not and I don't think a boat can sneak up on me.

CurtyL · 09-28-2009, 03:08 PM

stuppid - They'll probably drop some buoys out there and that will be that. They won't have the money to staff enforcement. DFG doesn't want to take this one on. Map 2 is best, but not the probable solution. I can live with any of the three maps. Adapt and overcome.

forefrazier · 09-28-2009, 04:07 PM

All (3) of them are straight up B.S!

stuppid · 09-29-2009, 11:05 AM

They will not drop buoys. I fish the central coast and they have nothing marking the MPA's. There is no way to tell if you are in the closure beside a GPS. The MPA's that are especially hard are the ones that only extend a mile or so offshore.

tylerdurden · 09-29-2009, 12:56 PM

By fishing you acknowledge that you know the regulations, bag limits, size limits, and where you can and cannot fish. The no GPS excuse will not fly.

Stoneale · 10-01-2009, 10:47 AM

So just to be clear, SMCA = no fishing right? I see that they added Dana Point to the 3rd phase map as an SMCA. I wonder if this includes fishing in the harbor as well.

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tylerdurden · 10-01-2009, 10:50 AM

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So just to be clear, SMCA = no fishing right? I see that they added Dana Point to the 3rd phase map as an SMCA. I wonder if this includes fishing in the harbor as well.

SMCA can include fishing. Some do not. Go to:
http://www.marinemap.org/marinemap/

Then bring up the proposal you have questions about. Click on the area and the rational behind the closure, and the list of allowed uses should come up. Not all blue areas, or SMCA's are equal. Some allow all fishing. some allow no rec fishing.

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make sure you click on the round 3 maps. Those are the only ones that matter now. There are 3 maps.

09-29-2009, 12:56 PM	#5
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	By fishing you acknowledge that you know the regulations, bag limits, size limits, and where you can and cannot fish. The no GPS excuse will not fly. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

09-28-2009, 02:28 PM	#1
stuppid Junior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11	Whichever one is the worst for the greatest amount of people will be the on that passes. Has anyone ever considered that there is no regulation that you have to have a GPS onboard your vessel? How are they going to enforce the closures? How are you supposed to know if you are within the closure or not? If you are fishing 1000' inside of a closure and fish and game roll up and ticket you what evidence will they bring to court? Will their GPS observations hold up in court? Will it have to be calibrated periodically like a radar gun? They would have to sneak up on you and catch you fishing to give you a ticket. You can posess fish and fishing gear while in a closure. I know that if I am a mile and a half off shore even with binoculars they will have a hard time knowing whether I am fishing or not and I don't think a boat can sneak up on me.

09-28-2009, 03:08 PM	#2
CurtyL Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: wherever the college girlz r Posts: 127	stuppid - They'll probably drop some buoys out there and that will be that. They won't have the money to staff enforcement. DFG doesn't want to take this one on. Map 2 is best, but not the probable solution. I can live with any of the three maps. Adapt and overcome.

09-28-2009, 04:07 PM	#3
forefrazier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: OC Posts: 397	All (3) of them are straight up B.S!

09-29-2009, 11:05 AM	#4
stuppid Junior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11	They will not drop buoys. I fish the central coast and they have nothing marking the MPA's. There is no way to tell if you are in the closure beside a GPS. The MPA's that are especially hard are the ones that only extend a mile or so offshore.

10-01-2009, 10:47 AM	#6
Stoneale Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 117	So just to be clear, SMCA = no fishing right? I see that they added Dana Point to the 3rd phase map as an SMCA. I wonder if this includes fishing in the harbor as well. MLPA