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Old 09-08-2009, 08:29 PM   #1
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Sounds like a nice spot. I bet there are yt around there. Too much bait can be a bad thing. No surf launch pics?
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Old 09-13-2009, 09:39 PM   #2
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I've fished Malibu most my life and I believe "too much bait" is a real factor and often shuts off the bite. Sometimes though, the upper water columns are bait packed and you can get halibut and other bites while the lower column is clear of baitfish. Sonar makes that a lot easier to determine.

Yellowtail cruise Dume Canyon and the outer kelp beds to a mile out in the Fall below Mugu. Fish them with a live bait, even smelt work. The YT are a historic, well documented seasonal catch in the region.
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:18 AM   #3
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I've fished Malibu most my life and I believe "too much bait" is a real factor and often shuts off the bite. Sometimes though, the upper water columns are bait packed and you can get halibut and other bites while the lower column is clear of baitfish. Sonar makes that a lot easier to determine.

Yellowtail cruise Dume Canyon and the outer kelp beds to a mile out in the Fall below Mugu. Fish them with a live bait, even smelt work. The YT are a historic, well documented seasonal catch in the region.
Thanks for the tips Dennis, I will definitely give it a try next time I'm up there.
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:20 PM   #4
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Yellowtail cruise Dume Canyon and the outer kelp beds to a mile out in the Fall below Mugu. Fish them with a live bait, even smelt work. The YT are a historic, well documented seasonal catch in the region.
Sadly this is likely to become a thing of the past as that area will likely soon be locked up in a MLPA.

The problem is ironically it's not fished enough, so there's not enough voices defending our rights to fish it!!

It's just ridiculous that one of the best areas for Kayakers in So Cal that get's the least pressure of any area we fish on our coast is now going to be closed in the name of conservation.

The sportboats and private boaters don't usually fish it because it's too far from their ports, that only leaves the Kayakers and Commercials. We don't cause any damage there but because rich housewives don't like seeing the light boats in front of their homes a few times a year we will be excluded with them.

This area is the LA areas La Jolla. Only a handfull of locals fish it but I would appeal to all kayakers to help us keep this area open for fishing in the future. If we can not motivate enough people to come foreward to keep this one off the maps it's going to be gone for good as both WG1 and WG3 show it closed on their maps. There is enough habitat and rock bottom to the west of Dume to satisfy the science guidelines so closing the water East of Dume is purely a political decision, goin through mainly to appease a handful of very wealthy land owers who do not want fisherman driving through their neighborhoods, or fishing in front of their essentially private beaches.

They've been trying to force us out of there for over a decade, now they might just do it.

All I can say is we better fish hard for those yellows now because unless we get some support or the fishing community mobilized and looking at that location it's likely going to be our last shot at them.

Jim




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Old 09-15-2009, 04:44 PM   #5
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You're bumming me out with this reality check Jim! How far west of Dume is likely to get locked up? This is sounding like most of the Malibu coastline will be gone. If so, you're right, a complete shame. There's very little pressure there. The isolation from ports makes it a kayak fisherman's paradise.
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