Flipped in San Diego bay.

[CurtyL]

The guy is being straight up here. Thanks. Was it in the channel? My only beef with the prop and screw gang in the big bay is that outside the channels some of them don't really know the difference. Anything in the channel is fair game in my opinion. Cross at your own risk. Outside the green and the red, don't be a dickhead. We're all getting along doing our drift thang, then Joe Motor Boat who is in such a hurry to land those 2Lb calcs and 22" flatties out on the Point that he could care less about yaks, skiffs, sunfish or whatever. All I know is you have to park your boat someplace. And if you piss me off enough, there is no length I will not go to to find it. What would you do if someone sank you? All I'm saying is if you want to haul ass then by all means do so - just do it in the channel... PS the bay is a huge place. It is not dangerous. LJ is ten times worse on a small day. Tranquility, the more a read you post the more BS I find in it, you were cutting corners trying to save gas. Don't kid a kidder MF'er.

[comrad_zeelaagee]

tranquility-

good on ya' for posting and manning up. it certainly seems that you are regretful and a RESPONSIBLE individual. you did the right thing by stopping which is what many people would not have done. and without as many words- your apology was expressed.

there are risks inherrent with all activities and the kayaker that travels into the middle of the channel should know this- newb or not- it's common sense. we can easily flip in our yaks and loose a lot of gear in the surf or even trying to take a leak out the side of the yak. chit happens if you neglect to secure your gear.

i disagree with those that are so eager to chastise you for what has clearly been expressed as an unintentional incident. you, if things happened as stated, were clearly within the limits of the law.

[punchjamesarnol]

I was out a few weeks ago and one of the cattle boats from seaforth came in hauling ass a good 100 ft away from me while i was making bait. I just put my bow into the wake and held on. I was pissed that the captain didnt show any reguard. There will always be retards, people that dont know any better and people that just dont care. F#@k them!

[Tranquility]

Some of you guy's are pretty funny. I posted here as a sign of good faith and now there are those here who want to hunt me down.

Fact is that this was an unfortunate incident. We were positioned to the right of mid channel but well within the limits of the bouy's. It's not like I charge around with no regard for the little guy. Quite the opposite as a matter of fact. I've been witness to the mayhem a large boat can cause and we operate accordingly. That's why I posted here in the first place.

For those that took my post as it was intended. Thank you. For those that took it as an opportunity to point the finger of blame and scorn, so be it. Rational conversation tends to solve more problems than throwing the iron at someone.

Think what you want about the guy's in the big boat but remember that some of us are on your side.

[MalibuJohnny]

Originally Posted by Tranquility

Some of you guy's are pretty funny. I posted here as a sign of good faith and now there are those here who want to hunt me down.

Fact is that this was an unfortunate incident. We were positioned to the right of mid channel but well within the limits of the bouy's. It's not like I charge around with no regard for the little guy. Quite the opposite as a matter of fact. I've been witness to the mayhem a large boat can cause and we operate accordingly. That's why I posted here in the first place.

For those that took my post as it was intended. Thank you. For those that took it as an opportunity to point the finger of blame and scorn, so be it. Rational conversation tends to solve more problems than throwing the iron at someone.

Think what you want about the guy's in the big boat but remember that some of us are on your side.

Some vessels have certain rights of way, sail boats and non-motorized vessels have special right of way because they are not powered by an engine.

In any congested inlet, harbor or channel, why would you want to stay and fish in harms way to begin with? You are taking yourself a putting yourself in harms way. Powerboats especially at that size cannot stop, or even turn on a dime, so why venture out there to begin with?

Its like these numbskulls that think that there is a lane between the HOV and fast lane…buzzing past you, scaring the crap out of you going 80 mph. And when they do get it! It not their fault.

What are you thinking? No PFD? Out in the middle of a cattle drive…I think the yakker was very lucky just to have lost “fishing” gear and not his neck!
An way to go on coming about to check his welfare!

[lamb]

funny how the web works, huh?

It's unfortunate, but incidents like that happen. We all share responsibility for each other's safety out there. If the caring and conscientious person gets in accident like this, you can all imagine the danger from an inexperienced boater who knows nothing about kayak fishermen. It's real, and we have to be very careful. Not wearing PFD is personal choice, but the irresponsible one. Big Bay is a busy place.

Good one on you Tranquility, glad it all ended well.

[Gino]

Originally Posted by Tranquility

Some of you guy's are pretty funny. I posted here as a sign of good faith and now there are those here who want to hunt me down.

Fact is that this was an unfortunate incident. We were positioned to the right of mid channel but well within the limits of the bouy's. It's not like I charge around with no regard for the little guy. Quite the opposite as a matter of fact. I've been witness to the mayhem a large boat can cause and we operate accordingly. That's why I posted here in the first place.

For those that took my post as it was intended. Thank you. For those that took it as an opportunity to point the finger of blame and scorn, so be it. Rational conversation tends to solve more problems than throwing the iron at someone.

Think what you want about the guy's in the big boat but remember that some of us are on your side.

i do apreciate you comming on hgere posting for whatever attention you were looking for. Truthfully it does show good character that you stopped nd helped the guy out. i acually owe my life to a private boater who was kind enough to stop and fish me out of the water before hypo set in. he went above and beyond. i thank him everytime on out thier on a nice day.

Ive almsot been smashed to many times into the bait barges at newport becuase a boater didnt care, or would try and skate by me like im going to take all his scoops. And when i have given them some choice words, they drive off an dleave me in a wake, no apology no care. Thats when the comes out. dont even get me started on jet skiers!

[MalibuJohnny]

I also believe that by law if you are aware of an incident that you may have caused and you are at the wheel... you must render aid. If you leave the scene you can be guilty of causing injury and leaving the scene of an accident

[Norm222]

Originally Posted by punchjamesarnol

I was out a few weeks ago and one of the cattle boats from seaforth came in hauling ass a good 100 ft away from me while i was making bait. I just put my bow into the wake and held on. I was pissed that the captain didnt show any reguard. There will always be retards, people that dont know any better and people that just dont care. F#@k them!

I think I was on that boat. That was f**ked up. Were you in a red kayak? I was fishing with some of my non-kayak fishing friends from work. I was telling them that if I were that kayaker, I'd be pissed off. I hate when boaters come too close and going too fast.

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by punchjamesarnol

I was out a few weeks ago and one of the cattle boats from seaforth came in hauling ass a good 100 ft away from me while i was making bait. I just put my bow into the wake and held on. I was pissed that the captain didnt show any reguard. There will always be retards, people that dont know any better and people that just dont care. F#@k them!

Yup... The Dolphin will do that to you sometimes.. Okay, ALL OF THE TIME!

[CurtyL]

A yaker not wearing a PFD is only a danger to himself. You can console yourself with that angle but the fact is you were the one who caused harm to him, not him to himself. You're lucky you didn't run him over. It was in the channel and thus the yakker should have been more careful too, I agree. But you guys know you blast down the sides of the bay, we see it all the time. Your comment about the big bay being too congested is utter BS. Even on a race day it's managable to anyone with half a brain. In the channel maybe it gets hectic, but not the whole bay. It may seem that way to you because you're flying around like a maniac. PS, just what limits do we need to know about - christ we're just sitting there????

[comrad_zeelaagee]

curty- you should stop now- you're not representing the rest of us well.

[dgax65]

Paddling a yak in the bay is just like riding a bicycle on city streets; you have to be defensive. You can rant and rave about bad drivers/boaters all you want, but that isn't going to keep you safe. You have to be observant and never let your guard down. Always be ready to maneuver away from approaching boats. I paddled 3-4 days a week in the bay for a couple of years and I learned my lesson. Always have your head on a swivel and be ready to react. Even the best-equipped boats and good sailors will not see you at times. I've had close calls with Harbor Police boats, Navy Mk-V's and even one of the CBP interceptors. It is just part of paddling in the bay. That's one of the big reasons why I stopped paddling in there.

Cut Tranquility a little slack. The cruise ships and Navy vessels are probably doing close to 10kts in some parts of the channel. Sure he could have slowed a little, but there are plenty of boaters that take the channel much faster. At least he stopped to see if he could assist. That is much more than I would expect from some of the knuckleheads that are out there.

Mission Bay, between the entrance and the 5mph buoys, is even worse than SD Bay. There is lots of traffic, little room to maneuver and you get reflected wakes off the jetties.