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Old 07-30-2009, 07:46 PM   #1
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Really?

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The RSG was directed to meet or exceed Science Advisory Team guidelines that will close some or even all of these areas because persistent kelp is in such short supply.
At what point does the RSG stand up in outrage at comments like that?

I'm no scientist but common sense tells me that fishing and fishermen do not contribute to the loss of persistent kelp. Kelp loss is due climate change, pollution, and possibly an over abundance of urchins. Closing those areas to fishing will not produce a rebound in persistent kelp.

I've been to all the meetings that I can. I've volunteered my time and money. I've filled out numerous comment cards, sent letters, faxes and made phone calls. I've pounded the pavement spreading the word but I'm just a fisherman -and it's obvious to me, that's how I'm viewed by the BRTF. What I don't understand is why the local businesses are not beating down the doors at their city council offices demanding they oppose these closures. It seems to me that we keep on showing up to the gun fight with rocks in our hands.

I do appreciate your time and effort as well as everyone else who has contributed. I just think it's time for a different approach rather than doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:44 AM   #2
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At what point does the RSG stand up in outrage at comments like that?

I'm no scientist but common sense tells me that fishing and fishermen do not contribute to the loss of persistent kelp. Kelp loss is due climate change, pollution, and possibly an over abundance of urchins. Closing those areas to fishing will not produce a rebound in persistent kelp.

I've been to all the meetings that I can. I've volunteered my time and money. I've filled out numerous comment cards, sent letters, faxes and made phone calls. I've pounded the pavement spreading the word but I'm just a fisherman -and it's obvious to me, that's how I'm viewed by the BRTF. What I don't understand is why the local businesses are not beating down the doors at their city council offices demanding they oppose these closures. It seems to me that we keep on showing up to the gun fight with rocks in our hands.

I do appreciate your time and effort as well as everyone else who has contributed. I just think it's time for a different approach rather than doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.
You haven't done all you can.....you can still support those of us who are continuing the fight instead of putting up your moral busting posts like this. You want to rant tell us/me personally, you have our numbers and you have our emails.

Rocks to a gun fight is not the case here at all. It's more along the lines of an M16 against an M60. But bring two M16's to the fight and that M60 will go down. There are 4 tenets of battle

1. Initiative
2. Depth
3. Agility
4. Synchronization

You must employ more than once tactic; be flexible and work them in concert. You already know the business and council approach has worked up north in PV and it works in concert with our attendance. Don't ask the question, just keep working at it with your group in orange county until it is achieved. You haven't seen the spearos/yakkers give up on our attendance at the meetings because we have chamber/council backing...it actually helps us support our stance and give credibility to our comments.

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Old 07-31-2009, 08:58 AM   #3
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Come on guys.....most of us have blown off work for a day when there is a hot bite going. We should be able to find a way to get there to try and make sure we get to continue to fish. I'll be there and look forward to speaking.
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:12 AM   #4
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They are not saying fishermen are destroying the kelp, but the only kelp that exists to them is the stuff that was there for 4 of the 7 non consecutive years they used for the survey. The whole science behind it is bs too. It would be great if people got up and said so.
Just to add to what Tyler said, but "they" hand picked those 7 years out of close to 80 years of available data. Now that sounds like reliable science to me.


I said this on BD too, but I know I've seen over 100 boats/kayaks out there on a weekday when the squid are floating and YT are biting. Whether you have a flexible work schedule or are calling in sick to fish a hot bite, whatever you do to free up your day for fishing, it's time to do that to fight for you and your childrens' rights to fish Lajolla in the future.

Strength in numbers, if enough people are throwing rocks, they we will win the gun fight....

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