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Matt · 07-29-2009, 07:46 AM

BUMP!!! Big thanks to my brother in law and the rest of you boys who are showing up to fight!!

Remember I am buying beer if you show up and speak at carlsbad.....dude free beer!!!!!!

tylerdurden · 07-29-2009, 08:04 AM

Yes, we will be meeting at Pizza Port after the August 3rd meeting

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Also if you are running late, call me and I can get your comment card filled in for you as long as you can make it in time for your actual comments.

Tman · 07-29-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

BUMP!!! Big thanks to my brother in law and the rest of you boys who are showing up to fight!!

Remember I am buying beer if you show up and speak at carlsbad.....dude free beer!!!!!!

You know where I live...

Corey · 07-29-2009, 06:26 PM

Thanks for going guys.

Work wouldn't allow me to get up there this week, and next week I will be in Indiana meeting my new niece. I really appreciate those of you that remain diligent. Please know that I would have been there this week and would be there next week if I could.

A reminder to those that go: Be polite & courteous, and t-shirts with bloody fish (i.e. bloodydecks) on them are not the best way to represent yourself (and the rest of us).

Sherm · 07-30-2009, 08:40 AM

I'll see you guys there. I won't make it right away but I'll be there before the public speaking section. Please make sure as many of you can get there as possible. I remember th LA meeting where all of the pro fishing community wore black t-shirts. Any plans along those lines this time? We need to offset the enviro's BS efforts.

Billy V · 07-30-2009, 10:27 AM

No, we do not plan to wear Black Shirts.

-Just as in the case of the Blue Shirt Enviros on 7/28 it works against them in that The Chairman (Ken Wiseman) asks that the Large Group be represented by (1) person from the group.

Effectively Neutralizing Them.

Wear a collared shirt.
We are Gentlemen, and have conducted ourselves as such in the face of rude, and intimidating environmentalist bullying and harassment.
-I submitted that for the record on 7/28
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There will be more advice given at the meeting.

tylerdurden · 07-30-2009, 01:48 PM

More info to think about

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So Cal Spearos,

This has been a very disappointing two days for me and apparently for BRTF chair Benninghoven who said he was disappointed by the complexities of the So Cal Region and by the fact that no array proposal achieved SAT guidelines.

His statement (paraphrased) is that next Monday when we begin Round 3, and that the "guidance" from the BRFT is that the primacy for array evaluation will be the score achieved by meeting SAT guidelines. Of secondary consideration is water quality and socio-economic impacts. So, the very man who got up the very first day of the process and who said publically that he wanted the economic impacts to have high priority, has fundamentally changed his position. Now, the pain of losing your best fishing hole is secondary to the almighty SAT guidelines.

On Monday, we are being assigned into 3 groups: Lapis I, Topaz, and External A. Our charge is to make each conform to SAT guidelines, which even the BRTF acknowledges is impossible to achieve for such habitat replicates as deep rock. We are free to expand our initial reserves and to use rejected reserves such as External B and External C as "libraries" from which to augment our arrays.

With socio-economic concerns relegated to secondary, the preservationists are free to expand their proposals to meet the hallowed SAT guidelines. At the end of round 3, we will advance these 3 improved arrays to the BRTF who will choose their "preferred" array. The remaining 2 along with the preferred will then be forwarded to the F&G commission for the final choice on which closures will become law.

Terry

Thank you all for your continual support at each meeting. I only wish someone was listening!

Stole this from spearboard. Terry Maas is an RSG member fighting for fishermen, just like Paul and MJ.

Here is an interesting article Terry posted on spearboard. If you read the whole thing there are lots of neat tidbits.
http://www.independent.com/news/2009...0/fight-bight/

kurtfish · 07-31-2009, 12:54 PM

Thank You Tyler for posting the link to the article from the Santa Barbara Independent.

Very interesting article with good empahsis on impacts to fisherman. Great photos of the SB Kelpbeds as well for those that need further inticement to view. The link once again is http:http://www.independent.com/news/2009...0/fight-bight/

See you on Monday at Carlsbad Hilton on the old Coast Hwy.

07-29-2009, 07:46 AM	#1
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	BUMP!!! Big thanks to my brother in law and the rest of you boys who are showing up to fight!! Remember I am buying beer if you show up and speak at carlsbad.....dude free beer!!!!!! __________________ Thanks Matt F.

07-29-2009, 08:04 AM	#2
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Yes, we will be meeting at Pizza Port after the August 3rd meeting . Also if you are running late, call me and I can get your comment card filled in for you as long as you can make it in time for your actual comments. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

07-29-2009, 06:26 PM	#4
Corey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ...waaaay out there Posts: 794	Thanks for going guys. Work wouldn't allow me to get up there this week, and next week I will be in Indiana meeting my new niece. I really appreciate those of you that remain diligent. Please know that I would have been there this week and would be there next week if I could. A reminder to those that go: Be polite & courteous, and t-shirts with bloody fish (i.e. bloodydecks) on them are not the best way to represent yourself (and the rest of us). __________________

07-31-2009, 12:54 PM	#8
kurtfish Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: I work in the little Village of La Jolla Posts: 139	Great Article, Should be Required Reading for all on BWE Thank You Tyler for posting the link to the article from the Santa Barbara Independent. Very interesting article with good empahsis on impacts to fisherman. Great photos of the SB Kelpbeds as well for those that need further inticement to view. The link once again is http:http://www.independent.com/news/2009...0/fight-bight/ See you on Monday at Carlsbad Hilton on the old Coast Hwy.

07-30-2009, 08:40 AM	#5
Sherm Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 490	I'll see you guys there. I won't make it right away but I'll be there before the public speaking section. Please make sure as many of you can get there as possible. I remember th LA meeting where all of the pro fishing community wore black t-shirts. Any plans along those lines this time? We need to offset the enviro's BS efforts.

07-30-2009, 10:27 AM	#6
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	No, we do not plan to wear Black Shirts. -Just as in the case of the Blue Shirt Enviros on 7/28 it works against them in that The Chairman (Ken Wiseman) asks that the Large Group be represented by (1) person from the group. Effectively Neutralizing Them. Wear a collared shirt. We are Gentlemen, and have conducted ourselves as such in the face of rude, and intimidating environmentalist bullying and harassment. -I submitted that for the record on 7/28 -------------------------- There will be more advice given at the meeting.