Just got an email - LJ Closure!

[Spyder]

Was cool talking to some of you guys tonight. Look forward to seeing you out on the water for a long time to come..........

[DESTROYER]

It was cool getting to talk to Mr. Wiseman for 20 or so minutes. It felt good to vent a little even tough I know the guy is a total politician. Smile grin, smile grin! I like the part when Jim Sammons told him that it should have never come this far, this place is a circus. That got old Wiseman's goat. It was good seeing all of you. I won't be as subtle as Chris.

Yes on proposal A

No on Lapis 1

TL-Moyer

[Tman]

Originally Posted by MOYER THE FISH DESTROYER

It was cool getting to talk to Mr. Wiseman for 20 or so minutes. It felt good to vent a little even tough I know the guy is a total politician. Smile grin, smile grin! I like the part when Jim Sammons told him that it should have never come this far, this place is a circus. That got old Wiseman's goat. It was good seeing all of you. I won't be as subtle as Chris.

Yes on proposal A

No on Lapis 1

TL-Moyer

Matt even went the extra distance, showed up in his clean, you know I am the HEAD CHEF garb, ready to cook up some grub...

[CurtyL]

Originally Posted by MOYER THE FISH DESTROYER

It was cool getting to talk to Mr. Wiseman for 20 or so minutes.
TL-Moyer

I talked to the guy for a while too. Remember that Seinfeld episode about the "close talker?" That's this guy for sure. Thought he was gonna try to kiss me at one point- he was that close. Very informative, and a guy who seems like he wants to meet in the middle. By the way has anyone played up the safety issue in terms of making kayakers go further out in our skimpy cratf? I did. I also suggested there be "incentives" for more eco friendly means of fishing like us. You can only hold so many big fish on a boat with a 350lb capacity, we don't leak fuel, we don't damage kelp......

[Tman]

Originally Posted by CurtyL

By the way has anyone played up the safety issue in terms of making kayakers go further out in our skimpy cratf? I did. I also suggested there be "incentives" for more eco friendly means of fishing like us. You can only hold so many big fish on a boat with a 350lb capacity, we don't leak fuel, we don't damage kelp......

Very good point. I brought up those same issues of 0 to Low Impact that we have, and the fact the majority of us aren't out to fill our sacks, just bring home dinner, same thing the spearos do. Can only hold so many fish on a stringer, or on a kayak.

Another thing to bring up that was well received...by closing the accessible launches, it would make kayakers venture out from areas that aren't manned (no LG's). The safety factor comes into play should the weather turn nasty and one being in an area where a swift rescue is not possible, being too far from LG stations equipped to deal with rescues.

Good points you made CurtyL....

[CurtyL]

I know Tman- I have never kept a single calc, bonita, large mac, cuda or sandie in 6 years (except a small few I that I damaged). I only keep the flats, tails and whites. I've never had a two fish day in my life. I also noted - and some of you guys may disagree with this - that to lump kayaks in with a party boat with 30 odd lines in the water is not in the spirit of what the MLPA's ultimate goal is. I don't want to throw our recreational boater bretheren under the bus, but the elephant is in the room.

PS I'm a Lapis 2 supporter because it gives me my Point Loma when I'm feeling like an adventure and willing to play the tides. I think the South Bay fishery is important to leave alone for a while.

[nunyabizness1]

It was nice seeing everyone at the San Diego meeting. I asked them to incorporate items from the external map into the lapis 2 map while avoiding closure of La Jolla AND Point Loma.

[Billy V]

Just got home.
It was a very productive meeting. Several of us got to spend quality time speaking with RSG members who were unfamiliar with out plight.

-The outcome of that may lead to a favorable adjustment to the proposed location of the Lapis 1 MPA at La Jolla. One which Kayakers, Spearos, and Surf Fisherman can live with.

There was also a lot of discussion and information exchanged about an MPA North of Scripps Pier. Our wants and needs do not seem to conflict with the terms of a reserve in that location.
-It would not preclude us from fishing for pelagic or bait from Scripps Pier and heading North.

These RSG Members were receptive to making the aforementioned adjustment to the Lapis 1 Reserve SMR2 (La Jolla)

I will let Tyler explain more.

Thanks Tyler, Corey, Kurt, et. al. for the close support during that discussion. There was a good representation of Kayak/Spearo members.

Big Thanks to Everyone

[Tman]

It was fun...nice to have pleasant discussions with the people who are so closely involved in the process, and for the most part I found that they were very receptive to listening to our needs and explaining their positions and the reasoning behind them.

We, as kayakers and spearos, represented ourselves as a very informed yet concerned group, and after speaking to a couple of the BRTF members, they understood our concerns and actually sought out our opinions and possible compromises for different areas...may be all for naught, but I tend to think of the glass as half full.

This was so unlike earlier meetings, where you could speak and be heard, but not get explanations or answers.

I encourage people close to the next meeting sites to attend.

Very informative, and they seem to want to hear your take on why and how closures of certain areas would affect you...