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Old 06-25-2009, 09:23 PM   #1
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I'm sure you realize once you motorize it, you'll have to register it (CF#'s) and once you get CF#'s that makes it a boat, and that will greatly diminish the number of beaches from which you can surf launch.

Let's see, I can think of one.

Sleek design, anyway. Have fun.
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Old 06-25-2009, 10:14 PM   #2
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I'm sure you realize once you motorize it, you'll have to register it (CF#'s) and once you get CF#'s that makes it a boat, and that will greatly diminish the number of beaches from which you can surf launch.

Let's see, I can think of one.

Sleek design, anyway. Have fun.
You can't win them all... LOL

So which beach are you thinking about?

This is not meant to be a general use kayak.

I'm going to be powering it with a 2hp Honda 4 stroke. Sailboats that have used those motors as auxiliary power have reported mileage up to 40 miles to the gallon.

I'm planing on building a five gallon internal tank in it, since my hull is a lot lighter then a sailboat (by thousands of pounds) with far less drag and I should have much more range and speed then I can utilize.

With range and speed you don't have to launch right on a location to fish it. I'll primarily be launching it out of harbors, or perhaps at off the beach if I take it to Mexico.

The kayak is a hybrid of kayak, sailboat, and displacement powerboat design. It's going to blur the lines between what is a power boat and a kayak.

I'm designing it so it can launch and land in the surf, but it's not only what it's made for. I have plenty of kayaks I can fish out of the surf this one is designed for range, and sea keeping abilities so I can take it further offshore then a more standard kayak.


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Old 06-25-2009, 11:14 PM   #3
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Great thought, great craftmanship. Looks beautiful...

Now to the nitty gritty...you plan on installing a bilge pump, preferrably an auto (float) bilge? Would need an extra battery for that, esp in case of leakage.

If you don't, and do develop a leak, you are officially FUBAR.

The nittier of the gritty...2 words...

Hull displacement...

Make sure you put some whale tails (cavitation plates) on the outboard to help you plane better...just my 2 centavos...also check your rocker...and don't go out on 'swell' days...and make sure you have smooth, continuous beads on the welding points...

And as Zed pointed out, you are officially a motor boat under power.
Have all the necessary equipment, make sure you rinse thoroughly after every use, and only go out on days where LJ to the 9 mile bank is glassy...and make sure you use plenty of sunscreen under your chin, that aluminum (or SS) will cause a nasty glare...
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:07 AM   #4
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Great thought, great craftmanship. Looks beautiful...Now to the nitty gritty...you plan on installing a bilge pump, preferrably an auto (float) bilge? Would need an extra battery for that, esp in case of leakage.If you don't, and do develop a leak, you are officially FUBAR.The nittier of the gritty...2 words...Hull displacement...Make sure you put some whale tails (cavitation plates) on the outboard to help you plane better...just my 2 centavos...also check your rocker...and don't go out on 'swell' days...and make sure you have smooth, continuous beads on the welding points...
And as Zed pointed out, you are officially a motor boat under power.Have all the necessary equipment, make sure you rinse thoroughly after every use, and only go out on days where LJ to the 9 mile bank is glassy...and make sure you use plenty of sunscreen under your chin, that aluminum (or SS) will cause a nasty glare...
I actually have about ten times the experience Offshore that I do kayaking, and have designed and built other small power boats for offshore. I actually have kind of have a reputation as a small Aluminum boat Guru. Do to several of the projects I have done in the past. I get calls to work on boats all the time but I usually do not have the time to do it.

Here's a few recent projects a repair and a T top mini tower and bait tank leaning post set up.



Probably many of seen these Photo's before.

Here's one of my favorites: a modified Western 14ft skiff from a few years back that Iredesigned for offshore use.




That's all the same boat. People thought I was crazy when I started it but it turned out OK.

It was initially just built as a prototype, but it's worked so well I kept it. I've maybe got a thousand hours on the boat since I rebuilt it and have taken that skiff all over out to about forty miles with no problems.

I've targeted a lot of Tuna and T's with it..





...and have had it in some pretty rough conditions.

I'm essentially designing the new power Kayak to target the same fish without the TSharks....

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Old 06-26-2009, 05:54 AM   #5
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That thing looks cool but I bet it is not very buoyant. It might not be much fun to be on after taking a couple waves in the chest during the launch. Have you designed in some floatation?

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Old 06-26-2009, 06:55 AM   #6
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That thing looks cool but I bet it is not very buoyant. It might not be much fun to be on after taking a couple waves in the chest during the launch. Have you designed in some flotation?
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I should of seen this coming.

You have to understand what your looking at.

Right now your just looking is the hull, just the sides and bottom. The top decks and the cockpit have not been installed. This is not going to be a canoe or an open boat.

Like any sit in top the hull will be sealed with decks for an aft with a self bailing cockpit in the center and access into the hull it will be thorough water tight hatches. I figure when it's done the weight will be around a hundred pounds but the displacement capacity or flotation will be almost eight hundred pounds.

The closest hulls to it design wise are triple kayaks

It has to be oversized so that it can handle the power without driving under in seas.

A good size triple with a hull the size of mine could support three paddlers all over 200 pounds plus their gear.

On the safety side the hull will have three sealed water tight compartments separated by bulkheads and several cubic feet of foam at each end.

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Old 06-26-2009, 06:59 AM   #7
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One = La Jolla Shores
I can't think of any other beaches where you can launch a boat (Baja excluded).
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Heheh. Funny.

I'm not worried about your craftsmanship or materials, there's plenty of iron hulls with poured concrete out there. Go get 'em.

Maybe you should get your hands on a longtail motor.
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:29 AM   #8
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Nice work! I need something like that T-top on my skiff!
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:09 PM   #9
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I can't think of any other beaches where you can launch a boat (Baja excluded).

Escondido/BKR in Malibu still gets a bit of use as a boat launch.

We've also got Carpinteria Reef/Ash Street launch up here which is exactly the same as La Jolla...drive on the sand and launch motor boats and kayaks.

Even the waves are like La Jolla(The City used to call it the safest beach in CA.)


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