URGENT!! FAX to stop MLPA budgeting!! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

dsafety · 06-11-2009, 09:27 PM

T-Man, it's worse than you know. Since I have gotten involved with Paul's fundraiser, I have made a point of asking everyone I see fishing from a kayak if they plan to fish in the tournament to support the cause. More than half of the people I have spoken to, are totally unaware of the MLPA threat.

We need to find a very visible person or group to champion this cause and get the message out to the masses. That will be hard to do. An easier mission is to make sure that everyone who knows how to spell kayak, or fishing understands what is at stake. Each of us can help in that regard by talking to the people we meet.

Bob

Saba Slayer · 06-11-2009, 10:04 PM

It's amazing how few people/fishermen are aware of the MLPA process...
Make it your job to inform everyone you can...tell the guys at work about it... carry some hand-outs in your car to inform folks about what's going on, especially at the various kayak launch areas and launch ramps.
Print the up-coming meeting/workshop schedule and hand that out.
Get as many folks involved as you can!
Thanks
Jim / Saba Slayer

Tman · 06-11-2009, 10:33 PM

Indeed...this is unfathomable to me personally, I spoke to some of Clay's schoolmates today, and they were shocked.

I think that most people think that someone else will handle the workload and we will all be safe. It is not the case.

I agree with what you say, there are TONS of people out there, Mothers, Fathers, Daughters, Sons, who are completely unaware.

This is not something that only affects adult kayakers, it has the potential to affect our children.

I am taking this personally because I have raised my son to respect and appreciate the ocean. The only seafood we buy at the store is shrimp, scallops, and crab. And canned tuna. If we don't plan to eat what we catch that day, we release.

For someone to stand up and say that they love fishing, and they love fishermen, but they want their grandchildren to be able to fish, is essentially telling me that they don't want my son to fish.

Maybe we need to contact groups that realize the benefits of taking a kid fishing, let's send some letters out to these groups. It's a start.

Post up some websites people, they want extensive public input!

Post some links, I will send out letters and emails...already have.

An uninformed public is a docile public...sound familiar?

herbo · 06-12-2009, 01:34 AM

Done deal!!!!!! now to burn up the phone lines!!!.....

H

Zed · 06-12-2009, 11:09 AM

I agree most average Joes and Janes off the street/beach haven't heard of it at all. To play devil's advocate, because I do, there will still be a large percentage of folks (after whichever proposal is enacted) that do fish, that we all can't/haven't reach(ed). So there will be a large number of folks ignorantly fishing is restricted areas in the future. This comes around to education and enforcement $$$ which isn't available now. If there isn't enough wardens now, w/ minimal closures, where are the wardens going to come from when there is more (hopefully the lesser of all evils) widespread closures?

tylerdurden · 06-12-2009, 11:20 AM

For public outreach, not even all kayak and boat fisherman know whats going on. I think we should focus on them for now. I have some ideas for Saturdays meeting at Joe's.

CurtyL · 06-12-2009, 05:02 PM

Anyone hear how it went?

06-11-2009, 10:04 PM	#2
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,878	Public It's amazing how few people/fishermen are aware of the MLPA process... Make it your job to inform everyone you can...tell the guys at work about it... carry some hand-outs in your car to inform folks about what's going on, especially at the various kayak launch areas and launch ramps. Print the up-coming meeting/workshop schedule and hand that out. Get as many folks involved as you can! Thanks Jim / Saba Slayer

06-11-2009, 10:33 PM	#3
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Indeed...this is unfathomable to me personally, I spoke to some of Clay's schoolmates today, and they were shocked. I think that most people think that someone else will handle the workload and we will all be safe. It is not the case. I agree with what you say, there are TONS of people out there, Mothers, Fathers, Daughters, Sons, who are completely unaware. This is not something that only affects adult kayakers, it has the potential to affect our children. I am taking this personally because I have raised my son to respect and appreciate the ocean. The only seafood we buy at the store is shrimp, scallops, and crab. And canned tuna. If we don't plan to eat what we catch that day, we release. For someone to stand up and say that they love fishing, and they love fishermen, but they want their grandchildren to be able to fish, is essentially telling me that they don't want my son to fish. Maybe we need to contact groups that realize the benefits of taking a kid fishing, let's send some letters out to these groups. It's a start. Post up some websites people, they want extensive public input! Post some links, I will send out letters and emails...already have. An uninformed public is a docile public...sound familiar? __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

06-12-2009, 01:34 AM	#4
herbo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canyon Country, Ca. Posts: 116	Done deal!!!!!! now to burn up the phone lines!!!.....H __________________ mellow yellow malibu eXtreme

06-12-2009, 11:09 AM	#5
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	I agree most average Joes and Janes off the street/beach haven't heard of it at all. To play devil's advocate, because I do, there will still be a large percentage of folks (after whichever proposal is enacted) that do fish, that we all can't/haven't reach(ed). So there will be a large number of folks ignorantly fishing is restricted areas in the future. This comes around to education and enforcement $$$ which isn't available now. If there isn't enough wardens now, w/ minimal closures, where are the wardens going to come from when there is more (hopefully the lesser of all evils) widespread closures? __________________ Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.

06-12-2009, 11:20 AM	#6
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	For public outreach, not even all kayak and boat fisherman know whats going on. I think we should focus on them for now. I have some ideas for Saturdays meeting at Joe's. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

06-11-2009, 09:27 PM	#1
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,122	T-Man, it's worse than you know. Since I have gotten involved with Paul's fundraiser, I have made a point of asking everyone I see fishing from a kayak if they plan to fish in the tournament to support the cause. More than half of the people I have spoken to, are totally unaware of the MLPA threat. We need to find a very visible person or group to champion this cause and get the message out to the masses. That will be hard to do. An easier mission is to make sure that everyone who knows how to spell kayak, or fishing understands what is at stake. Each of us can help in that regard by talking to the people we meet. Bob

06-12-2009, 05:02 PM	#7
CurtyL Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: wherever the college girlz r Posts: 127	Anyone hear how it went?