The MLPA two step - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Corey · 05-28-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PAL

get after guys! The task force is demonstrating the bias in this process. Don't sit back and take it - stand up and hold them to account. More to follow.

Are the RSG members voicing their dipleasure w/ Mr Wiseman? What is the point of wasting all of your time on a vote to narrow down proposals if the results are ignored?

kurt · 05-28-2009, 11:07 AM

I'll be voicing my displeasure with Mr. Wiseman. Funny how some people just don't fit their names.

Holy Mackerel · 05-28-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kurt

I'll be voicing my displeasure with Mr. Wiseman. Funny how some people just don't fit their names.

How true!

He is asking for comment, I sent him my opion of his non-objective "guidance" so should everyone else!!!

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Any questions or concerns you may have should be directed to me at ken.wiseman@resources.ca.gov

I look forward to continuing our work together-

Ken Wiseman

cc: MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force members

Hunter (The 80's Man) · 05-28-2009, 08:55 PM

I smell a rat. I hate rats.

Gonna' try and make it, my work schedule's already been made... I'll see what I can do.

Rob Hunter

bellcon · 05-28-2009, 09:19 PM

ken.wiseman@resources.ca.gov

Now there is a mail box that nees to be filled.
Be polite, Be firm, Be direct and ask him to explain his actions.

I know I am looking forward to a response from my email.

Thanks for the link Chris!

Tman · 05-28-2009, 10:34 PM

I just sent an email to Ken and have added him to my contact list so whenever I feel the urge to vent, I know where to go to first...

Mr. Wiseman,

I am one of the kayak people that have been attending the MLPA meetings, in Oxnard and Santa Ana, and have been fortunate to not only express my concerns, but question some of the decision processes.

At the Oxnard meeting, I posed a question directly to you and your staff regarding the amendment process to proposals (which was taped so should be on record).

In typical legislative meetings or government meetings, both public and private, when a proposal is submitted there is a 10-day lock on changes to said proposals from last minute amendments.

Again I ask you, why is this same format not in place for the MLPA process?

Also, in reference to your latest decision to rescind proposed outlines, can you clarify the the deciding factors for you to propose why all 7 maps be forwarded when the guidelines called for only 6 maps be forwarded to the SAT for evaluation?

For the record, I am the one who had the chance to speak at the Santa Ana public forum, and I directed a question to yourself and Mrs. Tudon regarding the misrepresentation of you tri-fold, clearly showing outlined 3-mile areas of your proposal that covered the entire CA coastline (mid brochure) and the accompanying page showing a surf fisherman.

My 9-year old son, Clay Harding, spoke at both the Oxnard meeting and the Santa Ana meeting on how your proposals would affect not only himself, but other children as well.
He missed school to attend the Oxnard meeting, and was encouraged to do so by not only his teacher at La Costa Heights Elementary, Mrs. Kelso, but the school administration as well, so he could get a chance to see government in action. He also had a chance to speak to his class the day after each meeting, and enlighten them on the MLPA process.

I look forward to your response, and will be present at future MLPA meetings as I feel the decisions set forth will directly affect not only the bond I have created with my child, but potential future bondings between parents and their children in regards to not only respect and appreciation of our natural resources, but government and legislation as well.

Sincerely,

Martin Craig Harding
Clay Tufte harding
yakpescador@yahoo.com

Billy V · 05-28-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kurt

I'll be voicing my displeasure with Mr. Wiseman. Funny how some people just don't fit their names.

I'd like to voice it with a baseball bat.

-One of the very first thing Ken Wiseman said before the Public Comment started at the Santa Anna meeting was you could not make comments that were a personal attack.

He is full of crap. If his lips are moving he is lying.

This process needs oversight.

05-28-2009, 10:34 PM	#6
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	I just sent an email to Ken and have added him to my contact list so whenever I feel the urge to vent, I know where to go to first... Mr. Wiseman, I am one of the kayak people that have been attending the MLPA meetings, in Oxnard and Santa Ana, and have been fortunate to not only express my concerns, but question some of the decision processes. At the Oxnard meeting, I posed a question directly to you and your staff regarding the amendment process to proposals (which was taped so should be on record). In typical legislative meetings or government meetings, both public and private, when a proposal is submitted there is a 10-day lock on changes to said proposals from last minute amendments. Again I ask you, why is this same format not in place for the MLPA process? Also, in reference to your latest decision to rescind proposed outlines, can you clarify the the deciding factors for you to propose why all 7 maps be forwarded when the guidelines called for only 6 maps be forwarded to the SAT for evaluation? For the record, I am the one who had the chance to speak at the Santa Ana public forum, and I directed a question to yourself and Mrs. Tudon regarding the misrepresentation of you tri-fold, clearly showing outlined 3-mile areas of your proposal that covered the entire CA coastline (mid brochure) and the accompanying page showing a surf fisherman. My 9-year old son, Clay Harding, spoke at both the Oxnard meeting and the Santa Ana meeting on how your proposals would affect not only himself, but other children as well. He missed school to attend the Oxnard meeting, and was encouraged to do so by not only his teacher at La Costa Heights Elementary, Mrs. Kelso, but the school administration as well, so he could get a chance to see government in action. He also had a chance to speak to his class the day after each meeting, and enlighten them on the MLPA process. I look forward to your response, and will be present at future MLPA meetings as I feel the decisions set forth will directly affect not only the bond I have created with my child, but potential future bondings between parents and their children in regards to not only respect and appreciation of our natural resources, but government and legislation as well. Sincerely, Martin Craig Harding Clay Tufte harding yakpescador@yahoo.com __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

05-28-2009, 11:07 AM	#2
kurt Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: 2 inches above sea level Posts: 503	I'll be voicing my displeasure with Mr. Wiseman. Funny how some people just don't fit their names.

05-28-2009, 08:55 PM	#4
Hunter (The 80's Man) Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Riverside Posts: 243	I smell a rat. I hate rats. Gonna' try and make it, my work schedule's already been made... I'll see what I can do. Rob Hunter

05-28-2009, 09:19 PM	#5
bellcon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Pedro Posts: 999	ken.wiseman@resources.ca.gov Now there is a mail box that nees to be filled. Be polite, Be firm, Be direct and ask him to explain his actions. I know I am looking forward to a response from my email. Thanks for the link Chris!