The MLPA two step - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

tylerdurden · 05-28-2009, 07:11 AM

Ouch. We are getting screwed.

This doesn't sound like a problem for the RSG reps, they voted and made their voice clear. This sounds like a problem for the BRTF and the people that make the rules, and change the rules if they don't like the result they get. We should let them know what we think.

This makes it even more important that we show up with even more guys next time. We NEED 100 + kayakers at the next set of meetings.

The BRTF meets June 4th I believe. Is there a public comment session?

landwhale · 05-28-2009, 07:30 AM

Yes the BRTF is meeting on June 4th in LA and there is public comment I plan on being there they NEED to feel our presence anyone else.

Matt · 05-28-2009, 07:38 AM

I will do my best to get to LA on the fourth if they are allowing public comment for sure!!! Won't know until tomorrow about rolling up there but just in case is there a roll call as to who will be attending???

And since this is very easily partisaned and doesn't quite seem legal similar to chicago politics what are our legal options and when and who and where do we need to file a possible injunction or some sort of legal stoppage to the very obvious improprieties that are going down?????

tylerdurden · 05-28-2009, 07:52 AM

California Marine Life Protection Act Initiative Blue Ribbon Task Force Draft Meeting Agenda (Revised May 25, 2009) * This facility is accessible to persons with disabilities. To request reasonable accommodations for a disability, please contact California Relay Service (at least two days prior to the meeting) at 800.735.2929 (TTY) or Thursday, June 4 at 9:30 AM

Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel *
6101 West Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045
Public participation:

Members of the public are invited to attend the meeting in person or may view and listen to the meeting via simultaneous webcasting on the Internet. Video and audio archives of the meeting may be accessed via the Internet approximately two days after the meeting. Please visit the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp for more information.

Public comment:

The public will be invited to offer general comments on subjects related to the work of the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF), not specific to an agenda item, at approximately 9:40 a.m. Speaker cards are requested and may be found at the entrance to the room. Time allotted for public comment is determined by the number of requests and can range from one to three minutes per comment; submitting written comments that can be easily summarized in one to two minutes is encouraged. Note that the public comment period is for comments specific to the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force; comments related to other MLPA Initiative activities or groups should be directed to those bodies or MLPA staff.

Meeting materials will not be provided at the meeting but will be posted to the MLPA website as soon as they are available. This agenda may be found on the MLPA website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp

Meeting Objectives

•

Receive a panel presentation regarding the Marine Life Protection Act and fisheries management

• Receive and discuss an MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team (SAT) proposed water quality evaluation method and potentially approve the SAT proposed method for evaluating marine protected area (MPA) proposals

• Receive and discuss report regarding the status of federal and state coordination recommendations and potentially provide guidance regarding next steps

• Receive updates on the work of the SAT, SCRSG, and MLPA Statewide Interests Group (SIG)

• Receive update on the revised south coast regional profile

• Receive 2008-2011 budget update

800.735.2922 (voice) or contact the California Marine Life Protection Act Initiative at 916.654.1885. California MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force June 4, 2009 Meeting Draft Agenda (revised May 25, 2009) 2
Meeting Agenda - Thursday, June 4, 2009
Note: General public comment, not specific to a particular agenda item, will be taken at approximately 9:40 a.m. and the task force will break for lunch at approximately 12:30 p.m.
Welcome, Agenda Review and Brief Introductions
I. Updates
A. Master Plan Science Advisory Team
B. Statewide Interests Group
C. Public Outreach and Education Activities
D. South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group and Regional Profile
E. North Coast Project
II. The Marine Life Protection Act and Fisheries Management
F. Panel Presentation Regarding the MLPA and Fisheries Management
III. MLPA South Coast Project
G. Receive and Discuss SAT Proposed Water Quality Evaluation Methods
Potential Action:
Approve SAT proposed water quality evaluation methods as an additional method for evaluating marine protected area proposals

IV. State and Federal Coordination Recommendations
H. Receive and Review Recommendations for Improved MPA Management Coordination with Federal Agencies
Potential Action:
Provide guidance to MLPA Initiative staff regarding next steps

V. MLPA Initiative Operations
I. Updated 2008-11 MLPA Initiative Budget
J. MLPA Calendar of Future Meetings
Adjourn

tylerdurden · 05-28-2009, 07:54 AM

So it looks like 9:40 am is the time. I have to check and see if I can make this one.

I think the RSG reps heard our comments last time loud and clear.
Now we have to make sure the BRTF hears us the same way.

JoeBeck · 05-28-2009, 09:31 AM

Another meeting I unfortunately will not be able to make. I've been sending letters every week. Is there anyone I should add to my list? I've printed them on mailing labels to make the process easier.

Bob Huff
Diamond Bar District Office
23355 E. Golden Springs Drive
Diamond Bar, CA 91765

Marine Life Protection Act Initiative
c/o California Resources Agency
1416 Ninth St., Ste. 1311
Sacramento, CA 95814

Cindy Gustafson, President
California Fish and Game Commission
1416 Ninth Street
Sacramento CA 95814-2090

Jean Fuller, Vice Chair
Capitol Office
State Capitol Room 3098
Sacramento, CA 95814

Assembly Member Greg Aghazarian
Capitol Office
State Capitol, Room 4167
Sacramento, CA 95814

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814

Loni Hancock
State Capitol, Room 4126
Sacramento, CA 95814

Michael N Villines
Capitol Office
State Capitol Room 3104
Sacramento, CA 94249-0029

Michael N Villines
Fresno District Office
6245 N. Fresno Street, #106
Fresno, CA 93710

Christine Kehoe
2445 Fifth Avenue
San Diego, CA 92101

PAL · 05-28-2009, 09:46 AM

get after guys! The task force is demonstrating the bias in this process. Don't sit back and take it - stand up and hold them to account. More to follow.

05-28-2009, 07:30 AM	#2
landwhale Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach Posts: 506	Yes the BRTF is meeting on June 4th in LA and there is public comment I plan on being there they NEED to feel our presence anyone else. __________________

05-28-2009, 07:38 AM	#3
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	I will do my best to get to LA on the fourth if they are allowing public comment for sure!!! Won't know until tomorrow about rolling up there but just in case is there a roll call as to who will be attending??? And since this is very easily partisaned and doesn't quite seem legal similar to chicago politics what are our legal options and when and who and where do we need to file a possible injunction or some sort of legal stoppage to the very obvious improprieties that are going down????? __________________ Thanks Matt F.

05-28-2009, 07:52 AM	#4
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	California Marine Life Protection Act Initiative Blue Ribbon Task Force Draft Meeting Agenda (Revised May 25, 2009) * This facility is accessible to persons with disabilities. To request reasonable accommodations for a disability, please contact California Relay Service (at least two days prior to the meeting) at 800.735.2929 (TTY) or Thursday, June 4 at 9:30 AM Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel * 6101 West Century Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90045 Public participation: Members of the public are invited to attend the meeting in person or may view and listen to the meeting via simultaneous webcasting on the Internet. Video and audio archives of the meeting may be accessed via the Internet approximately two days after the meeting. Please visit the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp for more information. Public comment: The public will be invited to offer general comments on subjects related to the work of the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF), *not specific to an agenda item, at approximately 9:40 a.m. Speaker cards are requested and may be found at the entrance to the room. Time allotted for public comment is determined by the number of requests and can range from one to three minutes per comment; submitting written comments that can be easily summarized in one to two minutes is encouraged. Note that the public comment period is for comments specific to the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force; comments related to other MLPA Initiative activities or groups should be directed to those bodies or MLPA staff. Meeting materials will not be provided at the meeting but will be posted to the MLPA website as soon as they are available. This agenda may be found on the MLPA website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp Meeting Objectives* • Receive a panel presentation regarding the Marine Life Protection Act and fisheries management • Receive and discuss an MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team (SAT) proposed water quality evaluation method and potentially approve the SAT proposed method for evaluating marine protected area (MPA) proposals • Receive and discuss report regarding the status of federal and state coordination recommendations and potentially provide guidance regarding next steps • Receive updates on the work of the SAT, SCRSG, and MLPA Statewide Interests Group (SIG) • Receive update on the revised south coast regional profile • Receive 2008-2011 budget update 800.735.2922 (voice) or contact the California Marine Life Protection Act Initiative at 916.654.1885. California MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force June 4, 2009 Meeting Draft Agenda (revised May 25, 2009) 2 Meeting Agenda - Thursday, June 4, 2009 Note: General public comment, not specific to a particular agenda item, will be taken at approximately 9:40 a.m. and the task force will break for lunch at approximately 12:30 p.m. Welcome, Agenda Review and Brief Introductions I. Updates A. Master Plan Science Advisory Team B. Statewide Interests Group C. Public Outreach and Education Activities D. South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group and Regional Profile E. North Coast Project II. The Marine Life Protection Act and Fisheries Management F. Panel Presentation Regarding the MLPA and Fisheries Management III. MLPA South Coast Project G. Receive and Discuss SAT Proposed Water Quality Evaluation Methods Potential Action: Approve SAT proposed water quality evaluation methods as an additional method for evaluating marine protected area proposals IV. State and Federal Coordination Recommendations H. Receive and Review Recommendations for Improved MPA Management Coordination with Federal Agencies Potential Action: Provide guidance to MLPA Initiative staff regarding next steps V. MLPA Initiative Operations I. Updated 2008-11 MLPA Initiative Budget J. MLPA Calendar of Future Meetings Adjourn __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

05-28-2009, 07:54 AM	#5
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	So it looks like 9:40 am is the time. I have to check and see if I can make this one. I think the RSG reps heard our comments last time loud and clear. Now we have to make sure the BRTF hears us the same way. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

05-28-2009, 07:11 AM	#1
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Ouch. We are getting screwed. This doesn't sound like a problem for the RSG reps, they voted and made their voice clear. This sounds like a problem for the BRTF and the people that make the rules, and change the rules if they don't like the result they get. We should let them know what we think. This makes it even more important that we show up with even more guys next time. We NEED 100 + kayakers at the next set of meetings. The BRTF meets June 4th I believe. Is there a public comment session? __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

05-28-2009, 09:31 AM	#6
JoeBeck Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 370	Another meeting I unfortunately will not be able to make. I've been sending letters every week. Is there anyone I should add to my list? I've printed them on mailing labels to make the process easier. Bob Huff Diamond Bar District Office 23355 E. Golden Springs Drive Diamond Bar, CA 91765 Marine Life Protection Act Initiative c/o California Resources Agency 1416 Ninth St., Ste. 1311 Sacramento, CA 95814 Cindy Gustafson, President California Fish and Game Commission 1416 Ninth Street Sacramento CA 95814-2090 Jean Fuller, Vice Chair Capitol Office State Capitol Room 3098 Sacramento, CA 95814 Assembly Member Greg Aghazarian Capitol Office State Capitol, Room 4167 Sacramento, CA 95814 Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger State Capitol Building Sacramento, CA 95814 Loni Hancock State Capitol, Room 4126 Sacramento, CA 95814 Michael N Villines Capitol Office State Capitol Room 3104 Sacramento, CA 94249-0029 Michael N Villines Fresno District Office 6245 N. Fresno Street, #106 Fresno, CA 93710 Christine Kehoe 2445 Fifth Avenue San Diego, CA 92101

05-28-2009, 09:46 AM	#7
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	get after guys! The task force is demonstrating the bias in this process. Don't sit back and take it - stand up and hold them to account. More to follow.