If you spoke at the RSG mtg - finish the job and submit your words! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Billy V · 05-20-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Holy Mackerel

Did Ken Wiseman really say this? What a passive agressive, elitist ass. He is the Executive Director? very professional.

This alone should fire up everyone to attend and speak!

I am with Tyler on this. Everyone needs to speak, keep sending our message, it needs to be heard over and over, to pound it in their heads, we are not going away, and are invested in this process.

However, if you truly have a public phobia in speaking, attending the meeting is good enough, we will find someone long winded

to use your time. Also, you can also submit a written statement to Kelly Sayce, the MLPAI outreach person.

Tyler is 100% Correct.
Ken Wiseman sent Kelly Sayce out to make that comment about "Try not to repeat the same point over and over, or they May get annoyed"
-BTW Kelly is a good person, and worked with Us to easily allow documents into the public record. Not Old Kenny Boy.

Annoyed?? Annoyed? You want to see annoyed. Don't get me started.
-I should thank Ken Wiseman for making it so Clear how he is trying to d98chebag us Kayak Fisherman.

He got to see it 1st. hand last night as He, and just about everyone else was there until the wee hours of the morning still listenting to us....The Public....who were there to give Public Comment.
--Oh I get it Now, Ken really doesn't want Us to Publically Speak, at the Meetings that are designed to hear Public Comment.
-He wants us to go away and die somewhere.

Yes he did say that about our club....He didn't use the word little, but his remark was in that vein.
-We are just as Important as the SHEEPSCRAB, that dopey Old lady was talking about from Laguna Beach.

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Its an easy thing to walk up and say your name and what is Important to You regarding your Fishing Grounds, Kayak Launch, Family Tradition, Safety, etc.

-You would not have any problem saying something to a person who walked up to your kayak and swiped a fishing pole from the rod holder.
This is the same thing, they are swiping your fishing spot. Forever.

tylerdurden · 05-20-2009, 10:41 AM

Yes Ken really said something like that

. Hey, they scheuled a special session more accesible for the public, to hear from the public, and we let them hear it.

Another thing, maybe we shouldn't have turned in most of our speaker cards together? It was cool to speak one after another to hammer the point home, but then we were kind of done. Don't know what's best.

That three arches lady wanting to keep people off her beach was a joke, but really sad. There were lots of Laguna residents speaking for closures in the OC area of their private beaches

. Good news for us in LJ was that no LJ residents spoke in favor of closures in LJ that I remember.

Kelly Sayce and the other guy that are doing public outreach are very helpful. They haven't shown any bias as far as I have seen and have informed us as to what is going on.

Holy Mackerel · 05-20-2009, 11:06 AM

I posted up to Jeff, socal shaggy about that very idea on Baytubers...

Let's not forget what this thread is about... Simple email guys! Flood their inboxes today!

MLPAComments@resources.ca.gov

TYPE UP EVERYTHING YOU GOT UP TO SPEAK ABOUT AND SUBMIT IT AS PUBLIC COMMENT!!!! YOU CAN EMAIL IT TO THE RSG, SAT, AND/OR BRTF.

Finish the job and submit your well thought-out words! Especially if you did not have enough time to speak.

Don't know if anyone noticed, but we were not filmed/recorded tonight, as we usually are in regular meetings. Thus, if you do not submit your speeches as written comment, you will be a faded memory, as they recover from lack of sleep.

Here is how to submit your comments:

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/publicinvolvement_sc.asp

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/contact_sc.asp

PAL · 05-21-2009, 08:29 PM

I'm feeling more or less destroyed after this three day marathon MLPA session, but now that I finally have a minute to log on, there's something that has to be said. The guys who turned out on Tuesday, some of whom stuck around all the way to the bitter end at 1 am, and the people who took time off work to hit today's meeting, did a lot to help save southern California kayak fishing - for now at least.

Thank-you for supporting your RSG reps. The impression you made went a long way toward keeping our popular launch and fishing sites off most of the round 2 maps. I say again, MOST. Closures at La Jolla, BKR, the north side of Palos Verdes, and Dana Pt live on. I think I saw Leo there too.

If you want to keep fishing your spots, plan on continuing your efforts.

My hats off to you - it takes a lot of effort to get to one of these meetings to speak your piece. Trust me, its worth it.

See you at the upcoming workshops. Start planning now, they are set for the end of June and the first few days of July.

05-20-2009, 10:41 AM	#2
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Yes Ken really said something like that . Hey, they scheuled a special session more accesible for the public, to hear from the public, and we let them hear it. Another thing, maybe we shouldn't have turned in most of our speaker cards together? It was cool to speak one after another to hammer the point home, but then we were kind of done. Don't know what's best. That three arches lady wanting to keep people off her beach was a joke, but really sad. There were lots of Laguna residents speaking for closures in the OC area of their private beaches . Good news for us in LJ was that no LJ residents spoke in favor of closures in LJ that I remember. Kelly Sayce and the other guy that are doing public outreach are very helpful. They haven't shown any bias as far as I have seen and have informed us as to what is going on. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

05-20-2009, 11:06 AM	#3
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	I posted up to Jeff, socal shaggy about that very idea on Baytubers... Let's not forget what this thread is about... Simple email guys! Flood their inboxes today! MLPAComments@resources.ca.gov TYPE UP EVERYTHING YOU GOT UP TO SPEAK ABOUT AND SUBMIT IT AS PUBLIC COMMENT!!!! YOU CAN EMAIL IT TO THE RSG, SAT, AND/OR BRTF. Finish the job and submit your well thought-out words! Especially if you did not have enough time to speak. Don't know if anyone noticed, but we were not filmed/recorded tonight, as we usually are in regular meetings. Thus, if you do not submit your speeches as written comment, you will be a faded memory, as they recover from lack of sleep. Here is how to submit your comments: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/publicinvolvement_sc.asp http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/contact_sc.asp

05-21-2009, 08:29 PM	#4
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	I'm feeling more or less destroyed after this three day marathon MLPA session, but now that I finally have a minute to log on, there's something that has to be said. The guys who turned out on Tuesday, some of whom stuck around all the way to the bitter end at 1 am, and the people who took time off work to hit today's meeting, did a lot to help save southern California kayak fishing - for now at least. Thank-you for supporting your RSG reps. The impression you made went a long way toward keeping our popular launch and fishing sites off most of the round 2 maps. I say again, MOST. Closures at La Jolla, BKR, the north side of Palos Verdes, and Dana Pt live on. I think I saw Leo there too. If you want to keep fishing your spots, plan on continuing your efforts. My hats off to you - it takes a lot of effort to get to one of these meetings to speak your piece. Trust me, its worth it. See you at the upcoming workshops. Start planning now, they are set for the end of June and the first few days of July.