Next MLPA meeting--April 28 (Tues) in Oxnard - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

PAL · 04-30-2009, 07:50 AM

I have a lot to say this morning, so please forgive the back to back posts.

The MLPA planning process continued unabated yesterday. Although hampered by the ever-changing data, MJ and I did our best to represent kayak fishing interests. I can't say how it went, not because I've been muzzled. I only know what took place right in front of my eyes, in a group of about 8 stakeholders. That was mixed.

I want you to hear two messages.

1) Preserving access to La Jolla will be a difficult, uphill battle. If we are to have any chance of success, YOU BETTER TURN OUT AT THE MEETINGS FROM HERE ON OUT. Don't be surprised if the other side starts showing up in force.

Can't go? Then please donate to the PSO and keep our lobbyist in the game. Go here for details: http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=4834

Direct link to the PSO donation page: https://keepamericafishing.org/donation/

I may have a second organization to recommend very soon, as it is nearing the time to raise money for any eventuality.

2) Other groups in the fishing community have been offered incentives to trade away all or part of La Jolla in return for concessions elsewhere. Because I have actively campaigned for solutions that balance impact between fishing groups, our friends are unlikely to turn on us. Especially if we are LOUD, PROUD, AND IN EVIDENCE AT THE MEETINGS. In spite of my confidence in our friends, we have to put in our own work.

Consider this my personal thank-you to all those kayak anglers who made the trip to Oxnard. Most of the guys arrived early, and suffered through the marathon meeting along with me and MJ. That was top shelf, and I don't blame you one bit for hitting the road after public comment. If I could have, I'd have been right on your heels. I'm only sorry you didn't see the debate that followed delivery of the delay letter. I'm proud to know all of you, especially Clay. At 9 years old, you are already one formidable guy. Everyone else on this board may be taller, but today, we're all looking up at you.

PAL · 04-30-2009, 07:54 AM

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Sorry I am a little unclear about MJ's post, the day added to the next meeting, May 19 is the day with the public comment now? Just want to make sure I ask for time off work on the right day since it is just over 2 weeks away already.

To tell you the truth, I don't know any better than you. We know public comment is scheduled for the evening of May 19 as of today. There may be another public comment session on the 21st, prior to RSG action on which round 2 proposals move forward. Then again, there may not be. We wont know for certain until an agenda has been posted.

Billy V · 04-30-2009, 11:21 AM

I received a CHange E Mail this morning. More last minute changes to confuse, and shake off the fleas.

[MLPA Initiative] Calendar changes for BRTF and SCRSG
California Marine Life Protection Act Initiative Announcement

Who: MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF) and MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group (SCRSG)

What: Calendar changes

When: New meeting date on May 8, 2009 at 12:00 noon (BRTF) and additional work session on May 19, 2009 at 1:00 p.m. (SCRSG)

Where: Via teleconference (BRTF on May 8) and Santa Ana (SCRSG on May 19)

zenspearo · 04-30-2009, 03:22 PM

From a spearo who has been attending these MLPA meetings--a big thank you to our kayak fishing brothers.

I'm from San Diego as well and I too believe that La Jolla is seriously threatened. It, along with Palos Verde, constitutes ground zero in this MLPA fight.

We need to show up in force or we will be hosed when this is over. This is especially true for you guys who need to launch at Avenida de la Playa. If they close La Jolla, you will need to make a 5-mile each-way to even be allowed to begin to fish.

The MLPA people says they only want to close 20%. But the science criteria they use is pretty much the same as that for the Central Coast. In the Central Coast, most of the coast has rocks, kelp, sand, etc. In Socal, 80% is sand. What that means is their 20% covers the only fishing grounds that serve millions of Californians. It's designed that way to eff the fishermen and you need to fight.

Hats off to the kayak fishermen who showed up April 28 and April 29th. You kayak fishermen have strong reps in Paul and MJ. Please continue to support your reps by showing up to speak and don't forget to thank them for this shitty job that they are handed.

SeaDog · 04-30-2009, 08:12 PM

I think we should shoot a video demonstrating why La Jolla is a safe launch when compared to other launch sites. We could play it behind a speaker stressing the safety issues in shutting down La Jolla. I think videos of kayakers getting rocked by the surf is something that would memorable for all in attendance. I'd be willing to participate in the wiping out part of this demonstration, I'm a natural.

Holy Mackerel · 04-30-2009, 09:09 PM

Joe (Zenspearo) thanks for stoking up the masses!

For those kayakers that don't know, Joe has spent a lot of his time, getting the spearos together, attending meetings, and speaking on behalf of consumptives = us...

Joe, if you have any helpful info, please do not hesitate to post up over here.

Chris

PAL · 04-30-2009, 09:48 PM

One thing I've noticed about Joe. When he gives testimony, he talks about kayak anglers and private boaters, not just free divers. Kayak anglers might want to return the favor, we have so much in common.

04-30-2009, 11:21 AM	#3
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	I received a CHange E Mail this morning. More last minute changes to confuse, and shake off the fleas. [MLPA Initiative] Calendar changes for BRTF and SCRSG California Marine Life Protection Act Initiative Announcement Who: MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF) and MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group (SCRSG) What: Calendar changes When: New meeting date on May 8, 2009 at 12:00 noon (BRTF) and additional work session on May 19, 2009 at 1:00 p.m. (SCRSG) Where: Via teleconference (BRTF on May 8) and Santa Ana (SCRSG on May 19) Last edited by Billy V; 04-30-2009 at 11:39 AM.

04-30-2009, 03:22 PM	#4
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	From a spearo who has been attending these MLPA meetings--a big thank you to our kayak fishing brothers. I'm from San Diego as well and I too believe that La Jolla is seriously threatened. It, along with Palos Verde, constitutes ground zero in this MLPA fight. We need to show up in force or we will be hosed when this is over. This is especially true for you guys who need to launch at Avenida de la Playa. If they close La Jolla, you will need to make a 5-mile each-way to even be allowed to begin to fish. The MLPA people says they only want to close 20%. But the science criteria they use is pretty much the same as that for the Central Coast. In the Central Coast, most of the coast has rocks, kelp, sand, etc. In Socal, 80% is sand. What that means is their 20% covers the only fishing grounds that serve millions of Californians. It's designed that way to eff the fishermen and you need to fight. Hats off to the kayak fishermen who showed up April 28 and April 29th. You kayak fishermen have strong reps in Paul and MJ. Please continue to support your reps by showing up to speak and don't forget to thank them for this shitty job that they are handed. Last edited by zenspearo; 04-30-2009 at 08:38 PM.

04-30-2009, 07:50 AM	#1
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	I have a lot to say this morning, so please forgive the back to back posts. The MLPA planning process continued unabated yesterday. Although hampered by the ever-changing data, MJ and I did our best to represent kayak fishing interests. I can't say how it went, not because I've been muzzled. I only know what took place right in front of my eyes, in a group of about 8 stakeholders. That was mixed. I want you to hear two messages. 1) Preserving access to La Jolla will be a difficult, uphill battle. If we are to have any chance of success, YOU BETTER TURN OUT AT THE MEETINGS FROM HERE ON OUT. Don't be surprised if the other side starts showing up in force. Can't go? Then please donate to the PSO and keep our lobbyist in the game. Go here for details: http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=4834 Direct link to the PSO donation page: https://keepamericafishing.org/donation/ I may have a second organization to recommend very soon, as it is nearing the time to raise money for any eventuality. 2) Other groups in the fishing community have been offered incentives to trade away all or part of La Jolla in return for concessions elsewhere. Because I have actively campaigned for solutions that balance impact between fishing groups, our friends are unlikely to turn on us. Especially if we are LOUD, PROUD, AND IN EVIDENCE AT THE MEETINGS. In spite of my confidence in our friends, we have to put in our own work. Consider this my personal thank-you to all those kayak anglers who made the trip to Oxnard. Most of the guys arrived early, and suffered through the marathon meeting along with me and MJ. That was top shelf, and I don't blame you one bit for hitting the road after public comment. If I could have, I'd have been right on your heels. I'm only sorry you didn't see the debate that followed delivery of the delay letter. I'm proud to know all of you, especially Clay. At 9 years old, you are already one formidable guy. Everyone else on this board may be taller, but today, we're all looking up at you.

04-30-2009, 08:12 PM	#5
SeaDog Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Orange County Posts: 47	I think we should shoot a video demonstrating why La Jolla is a safe launch when compared to other launch sites. We could play it behind a speaker stressing the safety issues in shutting down La Jolla. I think videos of kayakers getting rocked by the surf is something that would memorable for all in attendance. I'd be willing to participate in the wiping out part of this demonstration, I'm a natural.

04-30-2009, 09:09 PM	#6
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Joe (Zenspearo) thanks for stoking up the masses! For those kayakers that don't know, Joe has spent a lot of his time, getting the spearos together, attending meetings, and speaking on behalf of consumptives = us... Joe, if you have any helpful info, please do not hesitate to post up over here. Chris

04-30-2009, 09:48 PM	#7
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	One thing I've noticed about Joe. When he gives testimony, he talks about kayak anglers and private boaters, not just free divers. Kayak anglers might want to return the favor, we have so much in common.