Ghost Fever... - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

blackcloud9 · 03-25-2009, 10:18 AM

2001. (a) It is unlawful to take mammals, birds, fish, reptiles,>>and amphibians outside of established seasons or to exceed any bag>>limit or possession limit established in this code or by regulations>>adopted by the commission. Violation of any established season, bag>>limit, or possession limit may be charged as a violation of this>>section or of the specific code section or regulation that>>establishes the season or limit.>>

86. "Take" means hunt, pursue, catch, capture, or kill, or attempt>>to hunt, pursue, catch, capture, or kill.

Correct Dave. I am in "violation" if I "hunt" or "catch" a BSB or short calico. Technically, 56 mph is a "violation" in a 55 zone too. I'm just sayin ' y'all : )

Love you guys! : ) See you at the show!

j mo · 03-25-2009, 10:35 AM

Hey Blackcloud,

In an earlier post you said "(Got some reds and sculpin fishing deep plastics 120 to 160'. Didn't catch any live bait, didn't bring wsb bait. BTW Decent calicos and halibut off the beach lately, see photo album)"

Ive been in the hunt for some time now for a WSB with no luck, can you share what bait you use? (I assume Squid???) Feel free to PM

Thanks,

CandyCatcher · 03-25-2009, 10:53 AM

You guys have such a great fishery down there....

I love to fish it...as much as you do.....

Why dont you spend some of that energy spent "pissing on others parades" on something more worthwhile.....

LIKE SAVING THE FISHING GROUNDS.....

Have you taken the time to send in your letters? Put the stamps on it and gone to the post office???

Then why spend so much time "hiding behind" your pcs and pissing on others parades.....

right or not???? Not your place to decide!!!

Go Fish!!!! or Save Your Fishing Grounds!!

Or it really wont matter....will it???

my 2 cents -

Randy Janush

lambadmin · 03-25-2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappy

Well said Chicken Dinner!

Way to tap yourself on the back Slappy...

In this particular subject discussion, where you're sending us this strong ethical message, doing it via 2 nicks discredits it all. Cmon. Josh said he was fishing for bait when he hooked the 2nd one; he released it, and it all ended well. We don't need you, who never before had anything to say or cool stuff to share, to convince us with your 2 nicks that he was laying.

We all know the rules (or at least we should all know 'em), so does Josh. We can all judge for ourselves, so can Josh. No need for mob lynching.

I believe Josh sincerely cares about our fishery. I know in fact that he released more big game LJ fish over the years than a good number of us caught to begin with.

But when he says "thousands of WSB", I call BS!

DESTROYER · 03-26-2009, 08:13 AM

Hilarious Thread! How can anyone judge ethics by reading a thread. Question: If you have 2 lines out and you double hook up on WSB and you land both of them and release one, is that illeagle? That fish is doing great, I'm sure. I've seen a dozen of pictures of some nice Sheepshead that were pulled out of the water and then released when they were closed and no one hassled those people. I've known people in the past that would have gaffed that fish because they didn't know the retention.

I agree with a post earlier in this thread. Spend your energy trying to keep our fishery open. Tight Lines to all!

Moyer

Quilted Germ · 03-25-2009, 12:49 PM

[quote=Chicken Dinner;36101]

"Do the right thing."

quote]

This is all that matters.....

-scallywag- · 03-25-2009, 01:48 PM

wow!!!! i thought i was on BD for a second?? STOP YOUR WHINNING!!!! or the very few seasoned, fortunate anglers who spend most of their time fishing and still post WILL stop posting, or better yet start posting false reports and bogus techniques....ooohhh and if you don't know how he was catchng them why don't you paddle over to him and ask??? (although if you fish regularly he has given more than enough hints to figure it out) GOOD LUCK GUYS!!!

nmbrinkman · 03-25-2009, 02:33 PM

If this was anyone but Josh it wouldn't of made it a page and a half. Jealousy is a bitch. Like someone said earlier. Some sit appreciative of the catch, while others criticize because they themselves can't to it to the degree of the guy on the stage. I don't know Josh on a personal level nor do I have anything to gain by taking his side. I just think this is all a bit ridiculous.

Rhyno1 · 03-25-2009, 03:43 PM

Ghost fever is contagious...and now you all have it...bad! Get out and fish already, its the only cure known! This thread has more legs than a centipede!

Trophy Killer · 03-25-2009, 04:05 PM

Chicken Dinner wouldn't it been a better idea to pm Josh about your thoughts than to behave like a envious person or did you think it was time to come out the closet and post?

Dave I. · 03-25-2009, 06:51 PM

I'm trying to figure this out, I can have 5 bass in the live well and keep fishing over my take limit, as long as i don't keep more than five. I understand BSB are protected and can't be pulled out of the water, but were does it say we can't pull a WSB out for a picture, let alone catch more than one at time if we only keep one.

It is truly sad, that the post by chicken was gone before i even had a chance to finish my reply.
And i hope no one else took the poaching claim as legit, otherwise every pro bass fisherman should be in jail.

Dave Ischy

PS, Nice fish Josh, looking forward for another chance to head out for Tuna on the yak this year, really upset i missed last year.

dorado50 · 03-26-2009, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmbrinkman

If this was anyone but Josh it wouldn't of made it a page and a half. Jealousy is a bitch. Like someone said earlier. Some sit appreciative of the catch, while others criticize because they themselves can't to it to the degree of the guy on the stage. I don't know Josh on a personal level nor do I have anything to gain by taking his side. I just think this is all a bit ridiculous.

To me this thread is'nt about Josh at all, except that he caught some awesome wsb recently, which to me is outstanding!The reason being is that he does'nt play armchair quarterback like some and gets out there and fishes. Basically this thread went to "when is an over the limit fish over the limit", that is at what point should an over the limit fish be released before it becomes a violation? To me this is not "ridiculous" but rather an effort on my part to understand. And also so that maybe others in a similar situation will know when and how to release.

j mo · 03-26-2009, 09:28 AM

Agree,

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorado50

To me this thread is'nt about Josh at all, except that he caught some awesome wsb recently,

And being relatively new to the sport I’m confused by this. If I’m lucky enough to catch a WSB, should I fear accidentally catching another one? Should I move away from my spot change bait etc.?

Iceman posted the "proper form" for release but noticed he has WSB on deck already and one on the line. Was he in violation? (I guess the Iceman pulled his post???)

This is a great site for info on gear, technique and tackle. There are allot of really cool folks on here that have been very, very helpful especially Josh. I hope it stays that way and doesn’t turn into BloodyDecks 2.0 where you have to sift through pages of insults and shit talking to glean info. I hope it stays humble......

I hope to have the high class problem of catching two WSBS in one day and wondering what the hell to do!

best,
Josh

Quilted Germ · 03-26-2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorado50

To me this thread is'nt about Josh at all, except that he caught some awesome wsb recently, which to me is outstanding!The reason being is that he does'nt play armchair quarterback like some and gets out there and fishes. Basically this thread went to "when is an over the limit fish over the limit", that is at what point should an over the limit fish be released before it becomes a violation? To me this is not "ridiculous" but rather an effort on my part to understand. And also so that maybe others in a similar situation will know when and how to release.

I agree, it's not about any one fisherman, but about what to do and what not to do. Being new to the sport, I just want to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong, that's all. This site has been more than helpful in many aspects and I hope it continues.

nmbrinkman · 03-26-2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorado50

To me this thread is'nt about Josh at all, except that he caught some awesome wsb recently, which to me is outstanding!

To me this is not "ridiculous" but rather an effort on my part to understand. And also so that maybe others in a similar situation will know when and how to release.

I agree to a point. I enjoy Josh's reports and don't try to read into it anymore than what it is.

You rarely see people creating fake usernames or coming out of the woodwork to criticize anyone but some of BWE's "top performers". Those "one post wonders" are what made this thread ridiculous. And like Matt said earlier, lings and sheephead have been boated out of season and posted here. Not nearly the response as displayed here. That is why I threw in the "anyone but Josh" comment.

I also happen to believe that this train left the realm of understanding and a vicarious learning experience pages ago. I read it and enjoyed it when he first posted the report. It went south from there. I may not have done the same but I honestly don't care about the violation in question. There are more productive things to do than "hate" on one person.

I think we're on the same page here... Maybe you misinterpreted my point.

03-25-2009, 10:18 AM	#1
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	2001. (a) It is unlawful to take mammals, birds, fish, reptiles,>>and amphibians outside of established seasons or to exceed any bag>>limit or possession limit established in this code or by regulations>>adopted by the commission. Violation of any established season, bag>>limit, or possession limit may be charged as a violation of this>>section or of the specific code section or regulation that>>establishes the season or limit.>> 86. "Take" means hunt, pursue, catch, capture, or kill, or attempt>>to hunt, pursue, catch, capture, or kill. Correct Dave. I am in "violation" if I "hunt" or "catch" a BSB or short calico. Technically, 56 mph is a "violation" in a 55 zone too. I'm just sayin ' y'all : ) Love you guys! : ) See you at the show! __________________ Larry. Hobie Revolution 13. 25 years of kayak fishing La Jolla. https://larryl.com/photos

03-25-2009, 03:43 PM	#9
Rhyno1 Rhyno Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Simi Valley Posts: 9	Oh my goodness... Ghost fever is contagious...and now you all have it...bad! Get out and fish already, its the only cure known! This thread has more legs than a centipede!

03-25-2009, 04:05 PM	#10
Trophy Killer Junior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CA Posts: 3	chicken Chicken Dinner wouldn't it been a better idea to pm Josh about your thoughts than to behave like a envious person or did you think it was time to come out the closet and post?

03-25-2009, 10:35 AM	#2
j mo Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Encinitas Posts: 600	Hey Blackcloud, In an earlier post you said "(Got some reds and sculpin fishing deep plastics 120 to 160'. Didn't catch any live bait, didn't bring wsb bait. BTW Decent calicos and halibut off the beach lately, see photo album)" Ive been in the hunt for some time now for a WSB with no luck, can you share what bait you use? (I assume Squid???) Feel free to PM Thanks,

03-25-2009, 10:53 AM	#3
CandyCatcher Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ventura to LJ Posts: 69	You guys have such a great fishery down there.... I love to fish it...as much as you do..... Why dont you spend some of that energy spent "pissing on others parades" on something more worthwhile..... LIKE SAVING THE FISHING GROUNDS..... Have you taken the time to send in your letters? Put the stamps on it and gone to the post office??? Then why spend so much time "hiding behind" your pcs and pissing on others parades..... right or not???? Not your place to decide!!! Go Fish!!!! or Save Your Fishing Grounds!! Or it really wont matter....will it??? my 2 cents - Randy Janush

03-26-2009, 08:13 AM	#5
DESTROYER Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "The Table" Posts: 976	Hilarious Thread! How can anyone judge ethics by reading a thread. Question: If you have 2 lines out and you double hook up on WSB and you land both of them and release one, is that illeagle? That fish is doing great, I'm sure. I've seen a dozen of pictures of some nice Sheepshead that were pulled out of the water and then released when they were closed and no one hassled those people. I've known people in the past that would have gaffed that fish because they didn't know the retention. I agree with a post earlier in this thread. Spend your energy trying to keep our fishery open. Tight Lines to all! Moyer

03-25-2009, 12:49 PM	#6
Quilted Germ Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cardiff, Ca Posts: 185	[quote=Chicken Dinner;36101] "Do the right thing." quote] This is all that matters.....

03-25-2009, 01:48 PM	#7
-scallywag- Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: on the road... Posts: 598	wow!!!! i thought i was on BD for a second?? STOP YOUR WHINNING!!!! or the very few seasoned, fortunate anglers who spend most of their time fishing and still post WILL stop posting, or better yet start posting false reports and bogus techniques....ooohhh and if you don't know how he was catchng them why don't you paddle over to him and ask??? (although if you fish regularly he has given more than enough hints to figure it out) GOOD LUCK GUYS!!!

03-25-2009, 02:33 PM	#8
nmbrinkman Work Sucks! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 559	If this was anyone but Josh it wouldn't of made it a page and a half. Jealousy is a bitch. Like someone said earlier. Some sit appreciative of the catch, while others criticize because they themselves can't to it to the degree of the guy on the stage. I don't know Josh on a personal level nor do I have anything to gain by taking his side. I just think this is all a bit ridiculous.

03-25-2009, 06:51 PM	#11
Dave I. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 51	I'm trying to figure this out, I can have 5 bass in the live well and keep fishing over my take limit, as long as i don't keep more than five. I understand BSB are protected and can't be pulled out of the water, but were does it say we can't pull a WSB out for a picture, let alone catch more than one at time if we only keep one. It is truly sad, that the post by chicken was gone before i even had a chance to finish my reply. And i hope no one else took the poaching claim as legit, otherwise every pro bass fisherman should be in jail. Dave Ischy PS, Nice fish Josh, looking forward for another chance to head out for Tuna on the yak this year, really upset i missed last year.