First Glimpse, External MPA Proposals - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

forefrazier · 03-05-2009, 08:20 AM

What is the best thing that a concerned individual can do at this point to help save our fishing waters?

landwhale · 03-05-2009, 08:35 AM

PLEASE!!!

Click here
Add Yourself to the MLPA Initiative Mailing List

or here
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/mailinglist.asp

This will keep you up on the latest on the process. You can also view online arcives of the last meetings which will give you a feel of what they are like.

Then be ready to give the time to come to the Stakeholders meeting in late June or early July and October to show your support for our fishing areas by attending these meetings.

Mr Mugu · 03-05-2009, 08:59 AM

Right on Steve!

Stay on top of things for now as it's still early. But not too early to start firing off a few e-mails and letters voicing your concerns to your elected officials(more details from PAL forthcoming.)

The most important dates to mark on your calendar are: June 29 & 30 and July 1, 7, 8 & 9, 2009
These days are Public workshops regarding draft marine protected area proposals. The workshops will be up and down the coast so one will be local to you.

Perhaps the most important dates of all come in October as you can
see below what they will be doing on Dec. 10th.
The Blue Ribbon Task Force
October 20-22, 2009
October 20: 1:30-5:30 p.m.
October 21: 8:30 a.m. – 5:30 p.m.
October 22: 8:30 a.m. – 3:00 p.m.

December 10, 2009
Joint meeting with California Fish and Game Commission
Deliver south coast marine protected area recommendations

PAL · 03-05-2009, 10:17 AM

Paul here, fresh from this week's big MLPA meetings. The first round is in the can and off to the Science Advisory Team for scoring. While we won't have the results for weeks and weeks, maps of these first draft arrays should hit the net in roughly a week - probably around March 12 or 13.

So here's where we stand as I see it. We have three external proposals, two fishing-friendly and one decidedly not so. Of the internal proposals, each workgroup produced one fishing-friendly proposal and one on the other side. None of the proposals is remotely close to finalized. They will likely change drastically once the SAT issues its grades.

The ideas and concepts in the external proposals won't go far unless they are adopted by the RSG work teams, which has happened for the most part. Until the internal proposals finally go public, you can get a good idea of what the internal networks look like by glancing through the externals which MJ linked in the first message in this thread.

The internal fishing-friendly proposals include MPAs at Coal Oil Pt, Santa Barbara; Sycamore Canyon / Pt Mugu; Malibu east of the pier; the southern side of Palos Verdes; a swath off Laguna in Orange County roughly between Newport and Dana; and a large MPA off Del Mar. Catalina included the Farnsworth Bank. Also, the military is closing most of the northern side of San Nicolas Island and two areas off the north end of San Clemente.

Notice the differences between the FIN and UASC maps. It's useful. The FIN plan contains more high protection reserves, with the goal of most efficiently meeting the MLPA's conservation goals. Higher protection equals fewer MPAs. On the other hand, the UASC plan contains catch and release and slot limits in some areas. Now we'll get to see how the Science Advisory Team grades these previously untested MLPA concepts.

Before I move on, I want to note the unprecedented cooperation and teamwork evident in the fishing-friendly proposals. We need it.

Generally speaking, the preservationist proposals include large MPAs at Naples Reef; Coal Oil Pt; Sycamore / Mugu Pt; Malibu including Pt Dume and BKR; the northern and western sides of Palos Verdes; most of the coast between Newport and Dana; the Cardiff area in northern San Diego County; all of La Jolla; parts of Pt Loma; south San Diego bay; and large areas of Catalina and the southern islands.

PAL · 03-05-2009, 10:23 AM

Now that we have lines on the map and the first proposals in the can, its time to ramp up the public comment. MJ did a great job of listing the critical upcoming meetings. Don't let your fishing areas go down without getting your say in at the upcoming workshops and especially October's BRTF sessions.

Once we've had a few days to get organized and let the dust settle from this latest set of meetings, we'll put together a public comment plan. Please check back soon and don't hesitate to contact MJ or me with questions, concerns, and even criticisms. But don't just sit mute.

joyjiggin' · 03-05-2009, 12:33 PM

I emailed a letter of protest to MLPAComments@resources.ca.gov,Ken.Wiseman@resource s.ca.gov and SAshcraft@dfg.ca.gov
Does this help at all? Or does it fall upon deaf ears? Please give us email addresses that we can bombard with emails of protest. Joy

Holy Mackerel · 03-05-2009, 02:27 PM

Thanks again MJ, and Paul, the explanations of events, helps lift us out of the dark, esp. when we currently are feeling somewhat helpless.

chris

03-05-2009, 08:35 AM	#2
landwhale Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach Posts: 506	PLEASE!!! Click here Add Yourself to the MLPA Initiative Mailing List or here http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/mailinglist.asp This will keep you up on the latest on the process. You can also view online arcives of the last meetings which will give you a feel of what they are like. Then be ready to give the time to come to the Stakeholders meeting in late June or early July and October to show your support for our fishing areas by attending these meetings. __________________ Last edited by landwhale; 03-06-2009 at 08:01 AM.

03-05-2009, 10:17 AM	#4
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	Paul here, fresh from this week's big MLPA meetings. The first round is in the can and off to the Science Advisory Team for scoring. While we won't have the results for weeks and weeks, maps of these first draft arrays should hit the net in roughly a week - probably around March 12 or 13. So here's where we stand as I see it. We have three external proposals, two fishing-friendly and one decidedly not so. Of the internal proposals, each workgroup produced one fishing-friendly proposal and one on the other side. None of the proposals is remotely close to finalized. They will likely change drastically once the SAT issues its grades. The ideas and concepts in the external proposals won't go far unless they are adopted by the RSG work teams, which has happened for the most part. Until the internal proposals finally go public, you can get a good idea of what the internal networks look like by glancing through the externals which MJ linked in the first message in this thread. The internal fishing-friendly proposals include MPAs at Coal Oil Pt, Santa Barbara; Sycamore Canyon / Pt Mugu; Malibu east of the pier; the southern side of Palos Verdes; a swath off Laguna in Orange County roughly between Newport and Dana; and a large MPA off Del Mar. Catalina included the Farnsworth Bank. Also, the military is closing most of the northern side of San Nicolas Island and two areas off the north end of San Clemente. Notice the differences between the FIN and UASC maps. It's useful. The FIN plan contains more high protection reserves, with the goal of most efficiently meeting the MLPA's conservation goals. Higher protection equals fewer MPAs. On the other hand, the UASC plan contains catch and release and slot limits in some areas. Now we'll get to see how the Science Advisory Team grades these previously untested MLPA concepts. Before I move on, I want to note the unprecedented cooperation and teamwork evident in the fishing-friendly proposals. We need it. Generally speaking, the preservationist proposals include large MPAs at Naples Reef; Coal Oil Pt; Sycamore / Mugu Pt; Malibu including Pt Dume and BKR; the northern and western sides of Palos Verdes; most of the coast between Newport and Dana; the Cardiff area in northern San Diego County; all of La Jolla; parts of Pt Loma; south San Diego bay; and large areas of Catalina and the southern islands. Last edited by PAL; 03-05-2009 at 01:15 PM. Reason: Differences between FIN and UASC proposals are beneficial

03-05-2009, 12:33 PM	#6
joyjiggin' Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 109	Emailing MLPA I emailed a letter of protest to MLPAComments@resources.ca.gov,Ken.Wiseman@resource s.ca.gov and SAshcraft@dfg.ca.gov Does this help at all? Or does it fall upon deaf ears? Please give us email addresses that we can bombard with emails of protest. Joy Last edited by joyjiggin'; 03-05-2009 at 07:44 PM.

03-05-2009, 08:20 AM	#1
forefrazier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: OC Posts: 397	What is the best thing that a concerned individual can do at this point to help save our fishing waters?

03-05-2009, 08:59 AM	#3
Mr Mugu Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Malibu Posts: 48	Right on Steve! Stay on top of things for now as it's still early. But not too early to start firing off a few e-mails and letters voicing your concerns to your elected officials(more details from PAL forthcoming.) The most important dates to mark on your calendar are: June 29 & 30 and July 1, 7, 8 & 9, 2009 These days are Public workshops regarding draft marine protected area proposals. The workshops will be up and down the coast so one will be local to you. Perhaps the most important dates of all come in October as you can see below what they will be doing on Dec. 10th. The Blue Ribbon Task Force October 20-22, 2009 October 20: 1:30-5:30 p.m. October 21: 8:30 a.m. – 5:30 p.m. October 22: 8:30 a.m. – 3:00 p.m. December 10, 2009 Joint meeting with California Fish and Game Commission Deliver south coast marine protected area recommendations

03-05-2009, 10:23 AM	#5
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	Now that we have lines on the map and the first proposals in the can, its time to ramp up the public comment. MJ did a great job of listing the critical upcoming meetings. Don't let your fishing areas go down without getting your say in at the upcoming workshops and especially October's BRTF sessions. Once we've had a few days to get organized and let the dust settle from this latest set of meetings, we'll put together a public comment plan. Please check back soon and don't hesitate to contact MJ or me with questions, concerns, and even criticisms. But don't just sit mute.

03-05-2009, 02:27 PM	#7
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Thanks again MJ, and Paul, the explanations of events, helps lift us out of the dark, esp. when we currently are feeling somewhat helpless. chris