There goes profits for the Deadliest Catch...

[dos ballenas]

Nice recovery

I aggree with a lot of your second post tman, except for the part about the research dollars being a waste. Yes, science and research does take time and money. Fortunately the people in charge of the projects are extremely inteligent and have devoted their lives to learn more about the ocean.

Bill Fox, the World Wildlife Fund's vice president of fisheries, is an avid sports fisherman and had fought for years to protect both the commercial and recreational aspect of fishing alive. He previolsly worked with The Sportsfishing Association of Ca and was the head of NOAA fisheries located here in La Jolla. He knows what he is doing, and as a scientist he know there are countless things that can be learned from studying a place like this.

So do you shoot first and ask questions later? This area of ocean may or may not be similar to the Bering sea. Who knows, maybe they will find another species similar to the Pategonian Toothfish, aka Chilean Seabass. and world hunger will be cured.

Who really knows, the way we think about the ocean and fisheries management has changes a lot over the past few years, months, and even days.

[Tman]

Originally Posted by dos ballenas

Nice recovery

I aggree with a lot of your second post tman, except for the part about the research dollars being a waste. Yes, science and research does take time and money. Fortunately the people in charge of the projects are extremely inteligent and have devoted their lives to learn more about the ocean.

Nice patronization...wasn't a recovery dos. Just my thoughts.

I do agree with your top post, but I think in these financial times, and being the close proximity of their current fishing grounds, a ban for the purpose of research by the persuasion of advocay groups is a bit overboard. I think a study is more warranted, a probationary evaluation on the catches made, size, quantity, etc., then decide whether the area is able to sustain the pressure while alleviating pressure on the commonly fished areas.

My thoughts are that since it's not complete foreign waters, or waters that had been under an imposed ban, it's a bit much to impose a ban based on their reasonings without just cause. Who knows, maybe a future ban is warranted, or maybe as was stated earlier, that it is being done to keep other countries from plying these waters.

Either way, a precedent was set, and even if it shows that the area can handle the pressure, alterations will be made by the 'advocacy groups' based on the findings. Sound familiar?

[dos ballenas]

Everybody has their own opinion, thats why I love the internet. Its too bad all the other members hold their tounges and don't say shit when it comes to this kind of post. Expressing one opinion often brings light on another. I learned several things from this exchange. When you don't have a job, money being spent on the future of others seems like a waste.

I guess I should give it up and stick to saying "thanks for the report" and "nice fish", like most people on these damn sites.... or my favorite ... "yes the launch ramp is at the north end of la jolla shores" , just past the pier.