We're foooooked! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

T-Rex · 01-22-2009, 04:51 PM

We can only hope that the entire freakin MLPA implementation process will be suspended also. It's time to get militant if the State goes forward with closures without reasonable oversight and stakeholder input.

Billy V · 01-22-2009, 06:42 PM

If the Governor was smart he would suspend the MLPA process entirely until there was proper funding to complete it as the statute requires.

The injunctions and law suits would cost California much more time and money than the MLPA budget.

1Flatfish · 01-22-2009, 08:48 PM

What does this mean in english?

T-Rex · 01-22-2009, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Flatfish

What does this mean in english?

We're foooooked!

dsafety · 01-22-2009, 10:27 PM

I am far from an expert on this subject but it appears to me that the Governor, (whom I support on many issues), is trying to play hardball with the legislature in order to get them to get off their butts and do something useful. For far too long, many of the decisions that affect all of us have been made in back rooms by politicians who have two primary priorities. First, to get elected, or re-elected. Second, to reward the special interests that help them get elected or re-elected.>>
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Since neither of these priorities requires them to give a rat’s ass about the wishes of the general public, we usually end up getting screwed. My guess is that the vast majority of our elected officials have little more than a passing awareness of the MLPA process because none of their fat cat supporters have vested interests.>>
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Without a high profile champion to fight for the best and most reasonable solution, the issue will probably end up being settled by an obscure bureaucrat who may never have set foot in the ocean. >>
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We are all hopeful that the new kid in Washington will reform the way our Government works so that it actually represents the People for a change. Even if he is successful, it will take a very long time for this new attitude to filter down to the State level and even longer for the petty bureaucrats to be replaced by knowledgeable people who really care about the rest of us.>>
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Someone earlier in this thread suggested that the time may come for those of us who will be affected by the decisions made on this issue to become "militant". Normally I am a peaceful person but I can easily imagine myself supporting and probably participating in a rebellion against any decision that takes away my access to the local fishing grounds. >>
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My two cents for the day.

Bob

joyjiggin' · 01-22-2009, 10:44 PM

"Rebellion?????" Count me in!!

Billy V · 01-23-2009, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy V

If the Governor was smart he would suspend the MLPA process entirely until there was proper funding to complete it as the statute requires.

The injunctions and law suits would cost California much more time and money than the MLPA budget.

Or finish it up without depriving us of our fishing grounds, and launch sites.
That would seem the best option to me.

Geoffkoop · 01-23-2009, 09:40 AM

I ride motocross --> deserts are getting closed
I hunt--> hunting areas are getting closed
I fish--> now the ocean is getting closed

Doesnt sound like feedom to me?
I love California but why does it have to be so freaking left!

Billy V · 01-23-2009, 11:43 AM

The Fun Police are going to shut down the world starting with Kalifornia.

NO Fishing , smoking, drinking, fire pits, No Guns, ammo, diesel trucks, gas vehicles. No Classic Cars.
Definitely NO Motorcycles, dirt bikes, No Hunting, farting, swearing, No Football.

No Surfing, No Talking, No Skateboards, No Sex (or big time restrictions on it).

No Trespassing, No Hamburgers, Steak, or Animal of any kind for Food.

The tight side of Palomar.

Move out of my way. You've just been Passed by a Dirt Bike.

Rant Off.

Geoffkoop · 01-23-2009, 01:17 PM

Passing a gixxer on an enduro

...Love it!

Drew · 01-23-2009, 01:28 PM

Wearing full leather armor and Timberland's. Love it!

bajadog · 01-23-2009, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by T-Rex

We can only hope that the entire freakin MLPA implementation process will be suspended also. It's time to get militant if the State goes forward with closures without reasonable oversight and stakeholder input.

With our state, and federal lawmakers all on the left of center now,
I doubt the implementation part of the budget gets axed.

01-23-2009, 01:17 PM	#10
Geoffkoop Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: So. Orange County Posts: 302	Passing a gixxer on an enduro...Love it!

01-22-2009, 04:51 PM	#1
T-Rex Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita Posts: 770	We can only hope that the entire freakin MLPA implementation process will be suspended also. It's time to get militant if the State goes forward with closures without reasonable oversight and stakeholder input.

01-22-2009, 06:42 PM	#2
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	If the Governor was smart he would suspend the MLPA process entirely until there was proper funding to complete it as the statute requires. The injunctions and law suits would cost California much more time and money than the MLPA budget.

01-22-2009, 08:48 PM	#3
1Flatfish Wayne Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 98	What does this mean in english?

01-22-2009, 10:27 PM	#5
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,122	I am far from an expert on this subject but it appears to me that the Governor, (whom I support on many issues), is trying to play hardball with the legislature in order to get them to get off their butts and do something useful. For far too long, many of the decisions that affect all of us have been made in back rooms by politicians who have two primary priorities. First, to get elected, or re-elected. Second, to reward the special interests that help them get elected or re-elected.>> >> Since neither of these priorities requires them to give a rat’s ass about the wishes of the general public, we usually end up getting screwed. My guess is that the vast majority of our elected officials have little more than a passing awareness of the MLPA process because none of their fat cat supporters have vested interests.>> >> Without a high profile champion to fight for the best and most reasonable solution, the issue will probably end up being settled by an obscure bureaucrat who may never have set foot in the ocean. >> >> We are all hopeful that the new kid in Washington will reform the way our Government works so that it actually represents the People for a change. Even if he is successful, it will take a very long time for this new attitude to filter down to the State level and even longer for the petty bureaucrats to be replaced by knowledgeable people who really care about the rest of us.>> >> Someone earlier in this thread suggested that the time may come for those of us who will be affected by the decisions made on this issue to become "militant". Normally I am a peaceful person but I can easily imagine myself supporting and probably participating in a rebellion against any decision that takes away my access to the local fishing grounds. >> >> My two cents for the day. Bob

01-22-2009, 10:44 PM	#6
joyjiggin' Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 109	"Rebellion?????" Count me in!!

01-23-2009, 09:40 AM	#8
Geoffkoop Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: So. Orange County Posts: 302	I ride motocross --> deserts are getting closed I hunt--> hunting areas are getting closed I fish--> now the ocean is getting closed Doesnt sound like feedom to me? I love California but why does it have to be so freaking left!

01-23-2009, 11:43 AM	#9
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	The Fun Police are going to shut down the world starting with Kalifornia. NO Fishing , smoking, drinking, fire pits, No Guns, ammo, diesel trucks, gas vehicles. No Classic Cars. Definitely NO Motorcycles, dirt bikes, No Hunting, farting, swearing, No Football. No Surfing, No Talking, No Skateboards, No Sex (or big time restrictions on it). No Trespassing, No Hamburgers, Steak, or Animal of any kind for Food. The tight side of Palomar. Move out of my way. You've just been Passed by a Dirt Bike. Rant Off.

01-23-2009, 01:28 PM	#11
Drew Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 45	Wearing full leather armor and Timberland's. Love it!