16' Yak Transport-Pick Up Truck - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

forefrazier · 11-17-2008, 10:23 AM

I will be upgrading to a new 16' kayak this month and don't think I am going to be comfortable hanging it out the back of the bed with the bed extender any longer. Looking for input on what works well for this length kayak:

Truck: Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab-Standard Bed

I was thinking of going with one roof rack on top and then a hitch mounted Goal Post for the rear. I don't want permanent racks on the bed as I use it often to haul my quad, bikes, etc.

As far as the mounts go.....do the wheel roller type make it easier to load? Do they cause "dents" in the hull more than the saddle type? Looking for input like this from other so I can hopefully make the right purchase the first time.

Thanks,
Steve

Siebler · 11-17-2008, 10:32 AM

Thule Xsporter Racks come off pretty quick if you need to do so. 5-10 minutes max. And they are secure.

Your idea works but I dont like it for much distance. I do something very similar (use my Roll Bar instead of a roof mounted rack) and the Goal Post just moves a little too much for my liking. Its fine when the boat is laying in the bed but when its up....

Jason · 11-17-2008, 11:50 AM

Steve,

I have the same truck as you with the Xporter racks CJ is referring to. Works great, very secure. I just flip my Trident up side down and after almost a year of use, no warping of the hull. No extra hardware necessary.

Jason

mrJB · 11-17-2008, 11:56 AM

Forefrazier-
I used to run a single Thule rack on the cab of my Tundra with a T-rack from the hitch. There should be a T-rack available from Harbor Freight for under $25. It doesn't fold back (to allow the tailgate to open) but otherwise works great. I even cut down a 2X4 to slide out sideways from the T-rack to allow easy side loading. With the 2X4 extended it was easy to load my eXtreme one end at a time if I was feeling lazy. You can run a ratcheting strap from the center of the "T" and around your rear bumper widthwise to eliminate any wobble.
I've since changed to a camper shell for equipment security and camping ease.
All-in-all the "T" setup worked great but will take an extra 3 minutes to setup and breakdown

. Be sure you get a locking hitch pin to avoid any a-holes looking for a freebie...

bluesquids · 11-17-2008, 12:10 PM

I have over 5k miles up and down California using the goal post/ roof rack system. The benefit of it is it leaves you a covered truck bed to keep camping gear in.
Use lashing straps if theres too much wobble, but with two yaks there is not much.
I would agree that if a weld does break you are more than screwed.
I've been meaning to add extra weld supports, that would end that risk.

For the removeable roof rack, I use malone cradles ($100 for two) on a $25 Pep boys 1'' bar rack. I use a extra lashing strap through the truck cab to hold it down good.
http://www.kayakfishingstuff.com/Mer...Category_Code=

bluesquids · 11-17-2008, 12:18 PM

Heres my pad on the T-bar. $5 blue foam camping pads from walmart wrapped in waterproof duct tape. Yak slides on it nicely and it forms to the hull.

forefrazier · 11-17-2008, 01:37 PM

[quote=bassboyc;30984]Thule Xsporter Racks come off pretty quick if you need to do so. 5-10 minutes max. And they are secure.

CJ: I do like these racks however, one of the reasons that I returned these racks before using them was due to the racks coming off in 5-10 minutes. I know you meant "secure" as in how they hold things but I was a bit nervous shelling out $600 bucks for nice looking racks like that and knowing someone could jump in my bed and probably be off with them in less than 5 min. Funny how they have locks so you can't lift the cross rails out when they don't come with some type of security lock for the attachments to the truck bed. Simple socket wrench and they are gone.

forefrazier · 11-17-2008, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason

Steve,

I have the same truck as you with the Xporter racks CJ is referring to. Works great, very secure. I just flip my Trident up side down and after almost a year of use, no warping of the hull. No extra hardware necessary.

Jason

Jason, what is your address and where do you park your truck?

Jason · 11-17-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forefrazier

Jason, what is your address and where do you park your truck?

Great, now I won't be able to sleep at night.

Seriously though, anybody have any ideas on how to secure these things to the truck?

Billy V · 11-17-2008, 04:41 PM

The Thule is a good way to go.
I have used it with my 16' Adventure and it spanned the kayak nicely.
The crossbars are spaced 5' 9" on center in this pic.

The crossbars can be lifted out of their bases in just a few seconds, no need to remove the base mounts.

Its a very versatile rig, the Model #421 shown here fits all 3 of my trucks. Chevy Dually, and both Frontier Models.

Rob929 · 11-17-2008, 05:34 PM

Here's my set-up.

Single sided ladder rack w/ padding. Rack can be found as low as $119 online.

Still working on a roller/ cradle system to make it even easier. The rack slides out of the posts to make removal/ storage a breeze..

dgax65 · 11-18-2008, 04:15 PM

I kept my kayak on my rack for over two years with no problems.

It would have taken 4 guys to even attempt to steal the yak and rack. I have cable locks that connect to the bed, racks, kayak and my gear boxes. I'm sure that a determined thief could steal anything, but it would take some time. That's the case with everything, though. There are very few foolproof security measures; however, you can make it so difficult or time consuming the thief will look for an easier target.

Those rollers will make dents in the hull if the kayak sits on them for any length of time. Even the saddles can cause hull deformations. Either carry the kayak up-side-down or don't leave it on the rack for long.

speedydk · 11-18-2008, 07:01 PM

I'm glad this came up I'm looking for some ideas on a rack system myself since I broke the aluminum ladder rack I am still using. As for securing the kayaks (and racks) I use a Masterlock Python. Mine is 25' long and secures my x13 in the rack and a mini-x in the bed simple to do since the cable slides right through the scupper holes and the tie down point in the bed of my ford truck and yes my yak has been going everywhere I go most of this year since I got it in April of this year. I try to get out twice a week so not much point in taking it down. Thanks for the ideas guys! I'm thinking something similar with roof rack on the cab and a goal post for in the back so I can really load up the gear when its time to go camping! Although I wonder if the goal post coould be modified to accept a hitch mount bike rack?
Thanks again guys gotta luv this web site.
Darren

bluesquids · 11-19-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedydk

Although I wonder if the goal post coould be modified to accept a hitch mount bike rack?
Darren

I found one of these at harbor freight. Problem is the back and forth play(wobble) of the goal post is doubled! That requires some type of modification. Also it needs another extender so they are not on top of each other.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=99591

bluesquids · 11-19-2008, 04:41 PM

I also use 2'' pipe ladder racks that look kinda like roll bars.
Truck supply place in Santee had them for $80 each.
I use a socket wrench with the hex fitting to take them on/off,takes about 5minutes. Needed some modifications to attach cradles to the 2'' pipe. Also, not quite as tall as the pic below, more flush with the truck body.
Still, most of the time I just hang the single yak out of the truck bed.

Craig jones · 11-20-2008, 02:51 PM

Rob's one side ladder rack is what I have on my tundra, I added foam pipe insulation to the crossbars that make it really easy to load the yak with no damages. The width of each section is adjustable so the yak is snug won't move sideways. Fasten with web straps.

11-17-2008, 10:23 AM	#1
forefrazier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: OC Posts: 397	16' Yak Transport-Pick Up Truck I will be upgrading to a new 16' kayak this month and don't think I am going to be comfortable hanging it out the back of the bed with the bed extender any longer. Looking for input on what works well for this length kayak: Truck: Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab-Standard Bed I was thinking of going with one roof rack on top and then a hitch mounted Goal Post for the rear. I don't want permanent racks on the bed as I use it often to haul my quad, bikes, etc. As far as the mounts go.....do the wheel roller type make it easier to load? Do they cause "dents" in the hull more than the saddle type? Looking for input like this from other so I can hopefully make the right purchase the first time. Thanks, Steve

11-17-2008, 10:32 AM	#2
Siebler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richland Oregon Posts: 1,547	Thule Xsporter Racks come off pretty quick if you need to do so. 5-10 minutes max. And they are secure. Your idea works but I dont like it for much distance. I do something very similar (use my Roll Bar instead of a roof mounted rack) and the Goal Post just moves a little too much for my liking. Its fine when the boat is laying in the bed but when its up.... __________________ CJ Siebler

11-17-2008, 12:10 PM	#5
bluesquids Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jamul, CA Posts: 243	I have over 5k miles up and down California using the goal post/ roof rack system. The benefit of it is it leaves you a covered truck bed to keep camping gear in. Use lashing straps if theres too much wobble, but with two yaks there is not much. I would agree that if a weld does break you are more than screwed. I've been meaning to add extra weld supports, that would end that risk. For the removeable roof rack, I use malone cradles ($100 for two) on a $25 Pep boys 1'' bar rack. I use a extra lashing strap through the truck cab to hold it down good. http://www.kayakfishingstuff.com/Mer...Category_Code= __________________ Thanks, bluesquids

11-17-2008, 04:41 PM	#10
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	The Thule is a good way to go. I have used it with my 16' Adventure and it spanned the kayak nicely. The crossbars are spaced 5' 9" on center in this pic. The crossbars can be lifted out of their bases in just a few seconds, no need to remove the base mounts. Its a very versatile rig, the Model #421 shown here fits all 3 of my trucks. Chevy Dually, and both Frontier Models. Last edited by Billy V; 11-17-2008 at 04:58 PM.

11-18-2008, 04:15 PM	#12
dgax65 Guerro Grande Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 629	I kept my kayak on my rack for over two years with no problems. It would have taken 4 guys to even attempt to steal the yak and rack. I have cable locks that connect to the bed, racks, kayak and my gear boxes. I'm sure that a determined thief could steal anything, but it would take some time. That's the case with everything, though. There are very few foolproof security measures; however, you can make it so difficult or time consuming the thief will look for an easier target. Those rollers will make dents in the hull if the kayak sits on them for any length of time. Even the saddles can cause hull deformations. Either carry the kayak up-side-down or don't leave it on the rack for long. __________________ Douglas Gaxiola Team No Fish- Amateur Staff

11-17-2008, 11:50 AM	#3
Jason Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 80	Steve, I have the same truck as you with the Xporter racks CJ is referring to. Works great, very secure. I just flip my Trident up side down and after almost a year of use, no warping of the hull. No extra hardware necessary. Jason

11-17-2008, 11:56 AM	#4
mrJB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: O.C. Posts: 352	Forefrazier- I used to run a single Thule rack on the cab of my Tundra with a T-rack from the hitch. There should be a T-rack available from Harbor Freight for under $25. It doesn't fold back (to allow the tailgate to open) but otherwise works great. I even cut down a 2X4 to slide out sideways from the T-rack to allow easy side loading. With the 2X4 extended it was easy to load my eXtreme one end at a time if I was feeling lazy. You can run a ratcheting strap from the center of the "T" and around your rear bumper widthwise to eliminate any wobble. I've since changed to a camper shell for equipment security and camping ease. All-in-all the "T" setup worked great but will take an extra 3 minutes to setup and breakdown . Be sure you get a locking hitch pin to avoid any a-holes looking for a freebie...

11-17-2008, 01:37 PM	#7
forefrazier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: OC Posts: 397	[quote=bassboyc;30984]Thule Xsporter Racks come off pretty quick if you need to do so. 5-10 minutes max. And they are secure. CJ: I do like these racks however, one of the reasons that I returned these racks before using them was due to the racks coming off in 5-10 minutes. I know you meant "secure" as in how they hold things but I was a bit nervous shelling out $600 bucks for nice looking racks like that and knowing someone could jump in my bed and probably be off with them in less than 5 min. Funny how they have locks so you can't lift the cross rails out when they don't come with some type of security lock for the attachments to the truck bed. Simple socket wrench and they are gone.

11-17-2008, 05:34 PM	#11
Rob929 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 134	Here's my set-up. Single sided ladder rack w/ padding. Rack can be found as low as $119 online. Still working on a roller/ cradle system to make it even easier. The rack slides out of the posts to make removal/ storage a breeze..

11-18-2008, 07:01 PM	#13
speedydk Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orange County Ca. Posts: 99	I'm glad this came up I'm looking for some ideas on a rack system myself since I broke the aluminum ladder rack I am still using. As for securing the kayaks (and racks) I use a Masterlock Python. Mine is 25' long and secures my x13 in the rack and a mini-x in the bed simple to do since the cable slides right through the scupper holes and the tie down point in the bed of my ford truck and yes my yak has been going everywhere I go most of this year since I got it in April of this year. I try to get out twice a week so not much point in taking it down. Thanks for the ideas guys! I'm thinking something similar with roof rack on the cab and a goal post for in the back so I can really load up the gear when its time to go camping! Although I wonder if the goal post coould be modified to accept a hitch mount bike rack? Thanks again guys gotta luv this web site. Darren

11-19-2008, 04:41 PM	#15
bluesquids Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jamul, CA Posts: 243	I also use 2'' pipe ladder racks that look kinda like roll bars. Truck supply place in Santee had them for $80 each. I use a socket wrench with the hex fitting to take them on/off,takes about 5minutes. Needed some modifications to attach cradles to the 2'' pipe. Also, not quite as tall as the pic below, more flush with the truck body. Still, most of the time I just hang the single yak out of the truck bed. __________________ Thanks, bluesquids

11-20-2008, 02:51 PM	#16
Craig jones Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 27	Rob's one side ladder rack is what I have on my tundra, I added foam pipe insulation to the crossbars that make it really easy to load the yak with no damages. The width of each section is adjustable so the yak is snug won't move sideways. Fasten with web straps.